New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

Started Mar 4, 2013 | Discussions
thomas2279f
thomas2279f Senior Member • Posts: 2,850
New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

Rumour announced today:-

http://www.cameraegg.org/af-s-nikkor-80-400mm-f4-5-5-6g-ed-vr-to-be-announced-on-march-14-2013/

Price at $2999 equivalent to £2000 or 2100 Euro, I wait 6 months or so and price will be around current 70-200 AFS F2.8 mk 2 and then it will be similar to Sony 70-400 lens in price

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Skroob Regular Member • Posts: 268
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

Wow, 3K for a Variable Aperture lens. Its the most expensive Nikon VA lens (aside from the current 80-400) by about tripple the cost.

You would be better off just getting the 70-200 2.8 and a 1.7x then.

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thomas2279f
OP thomas2279f Senior Member • Posts: 2,850
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

True think Nikon are copying Sony & Canon in their pricing scheme, for extra £1k you could pick up the 200-400 F4 second hand on Ebay...

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Glen78 Senior Member • Posts: 1,411
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

I don't think the US MSRP is going to be $2999 since that is a straight currency conversion from the rumored Japanese price of 275,000 yen. US MSRP will likely be around $2000 - I might consider it only if the performance at 400 f/5.6 is on par with a 300 f/4 + 1.4 TC. I somewhat doubt this will be the case but at least the pricing would begin to be competitive with the alternative and I assume it will also have the latest VR (3rd generation, 5 stops improvement).

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Antal I Kozma Senior Member • Posts: 2,446
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.
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thomas2279f wrote:

Rumour announced today:-

http://www.cameraegg.org/af-s-nikkor-80-400mm-f4-5-5-6g-ed-vr-to-be-announced-on-march-14-2013/

Price at $2999 equivalent to £2000 or 2100 Euro, I wait 6 months or so and price will be around current 70-200 AFS F2.8 mk 2 and then it will be similar to Sony 70-400 lens in price

Hi,

I find it interesting that the name of the lens says "G" but the image shows a real manual aperture ring that is not consistent with "G" lenses. SO, either the image is fake or Nikon reintroduced the manual aperture ring on this lens.

My opinion is the the image is not of the rumoured lens but a simple Photoshop makeover. I wish I was wrong.

Best,

AIK

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Shotcents
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Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

It will not be 3K.

They won't sell many if it's too much above 2K for a VA lens.

I hope it's good at the long end!

Robert

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thomas2279f
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Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

Hi.

Its a picture of the old lens - hope the lens does come along and is cheaper than reported.

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gurgeh Regular Member • Posts: 275
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

Antal I Kozma wrote:,

I find it interesting that the name of the lens says "G" but the image shows a real manual aperture ring that is not consistent with "G" lenses. SO, either the image is fake or Nikon reintroduced the manual aperture ring on this lens.

My opinion is the the image is not of the rumoured lens but a simple Photoshop makeover. I wish I was wrong.

Best,

AIK

The image is of the current 80-400 as it says on the legend right below the image.

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thomas2279f
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Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

Be quite good  if it is TC friendly especially with the TC1.4

If it is compatible with the TC 2.0III could be useful although be quite slow at F/9 - F/11 and only in MF - and quality maybe doubtful ?

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jfriend00 Forum Pro • Posts: 11,443
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

thomas2279f wrote:

Be quite good if it is TC friendly especially with the TC1.4

If it is compatible with the TC 2.0III could be useful although be quite slow at F/9 - F/11 and only in MF - and quality maybe doubtful ?

Don't go expecting this type of f/5.6 zoom to work well with a TC 2.0.  You'd be f/11 at the long end which is beyond the specs for AF on Nikon's newest bodies.  There might be some  ideal circumstances where AF would work, but I'd think you would mostly be in manual focus and obviously, you'd be stuck with a max aperture of f/11.

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joejack951 Senior Member • Posts: 2,682
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

thomas2279f wrote:

Be quite good if it is TC friendly especially with the TC1.4

It would be the first variable aperture zoom to be Nikon TC-compatible if it is. I wouldn't hold my breath.

If it is compatible with the TC 2.0III could be useful although be quite slow at F/9 - F/11 and only in MF - and quality maybe doubtful ?

Definitely MF only, especially on anything pre-D4/D800/D600 and likely with those bodies too. Whether or not the IQ is acceptable will be up to the end user. f/5.6 + a 2X TC is f/11 wide open and f/16 stopped down a full stop.

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JAF_AZ
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Don't think I'd spend $2K or more for ....

... for a variable aperture zoom lens regardless. While we don't know what the real US price will be, likely it will be close to or more than $2K. I think I'd opt for a 70-200/2.8 with some TCs instead of paying $2K for a new, slow lens. I've already got enough old, slow lens as it is.

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Re: Don't think I'd spend $2K or more for ....

Jim F wrote:

... for a variable aperture zoom lens regardless. While we don't know what the real US price will be, likely it will be close to or more than $2K. I think I'd opt for a 70-200/2.8 with some TCs instead of paying $2K for a new, slow lens. I've already got enough old, slow lens as it is.

A 70-200 is not going to get to 400mm with reasonable IQ. If the 80-400 can and the newer VR keeps things under control then it will be useful for certain types of shooting.

Robert

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M Lammerse
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Re: Don't think I'd spend $2K or more for ....

Shotcents wrote:

Jim F wrote:

... for a variable aperture zoom lens regardless. While we don't know what the real US price will be, likely it will be close to or more than $2K. I think I'd opt for a 70-200/2.8 with some TCs instead of paying $2K for a new, slow lens. I've already got enough old, slow lens as it is.

A 70-200 is not going to get to 400mm with reasonable IQ. If the 80-400 can and the newer VR keeps things under control then it will be useful for certain types of shooting.

Robert

Hi Robert,

Absolutely indeed.

I've not owned the old lens, but the major complain I understood of many users is it's slow focusing and not th image quality itself.That seems to be over with the newer version.

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jfriend00 Forum Pro • Posts: 11,443
Re: Don't think I'd spend $2K or more for ....

M Lammerse wrote:

Hi Robert,

Absolutely indeed.

I've not owned the old lens, but the major complain I understood of many users is it's slow focusing and not th image quality itself.That seems to be over with the newer version.

Don't you think we kind of need to wait for the lens to be announced and reviewed before we know much about its image quality and focus speed?

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joejack951 Senior Member • Posts: 2,682
Re: Don't think I'd spend $2K or more for ....

Shotcents wrote:

Jim F wrote:

... for a variable aperture zoom lens regardless. While we don't know what the real US price will be, likely it will be close to or more than $2K. I think I'd opt for a 70-200/2.8 with some TCs instead of paying $2K for a new, slow lens. I've already got enough old, slow lens as it is.

A 70-200 is not going to get to 400mm with reasonable IQ. If the 80-400 can and the newer VR keeps things under control then it will be useful for certain types of shooting.

Any time you need 400mm and then 80mm quickly it will be more useful than a 70-200/2.8 + 2X TC, even if the IQ is equal.

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fpapp Regular Member • Posts: 195
New Nikon 80-400 AFS VR vs. Sigma 50-500 OS

It will be interesting to see how this lens stacks uo against the Sigma 50-500mm. I bought the Sigma some time ago after giving up hope of Nikon releasing an updated 80-400. I've been quite happy with the "Bigma"!

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Once upon a time...

I really wanted this lens. Now I'm not so sure it adds much to a kit including a 70-200 f2.8 VR, a 300 f2.8 VR and a 500 f4 AF-S. But I see it having wide appeal - and better late than never.

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Re: Don't think I'd spend $2K or more for ....

jfriend00 wrote:

M Lammerse wrote:

Hi Robert,

Absolutely indeed.

I've not owned the old lens, but the major complain I understood of many users is it's slow focusing and not th image quality itself.That seems to be over with the newer version.

Don't you think we kind of need to wait for the lens to be announced and reviewed before we know much about its image quality and focus speed?

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Perhaps Mr. Lammerse does know via first hand knowledge about the IQ and focus speed . . . .

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joejack951 Senior Member • Posts: 2,682
Re: Once upon a time...

JimPearce wrote:

I really wanted this lens. Now I'm not so sure it adds much to a kit including a 70-200 f2.8 VR, a 300 f2.8 VR and a 500 f4 AF-S. But I see it having wide appeal - and better late than never.

It might not "add" anything but carrying the 80-400 instead of the kit detailed above would certainly mean a lot less weight. It wouldn't be my first choice (I'd take your kit in a heartbeat, money no object) but for someone on a stricter budget, it makes a lot of sense.

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