New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

Started Mar 4, 2013 | Discussions
thomas2279f
thomas2279f Senior Member • Posts: 2,862
New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

Rumour announced today:-

http://www.cameraegg.org/af-s-nikkor-80-400mm-f4-5-5-6g-ed-vr-to-be-announced-on-march-14-2013/

Price at $2999 equivalent to £2000 or 2100 Euro, I wait 6 months or so and price will be around current 70-200 AFS F2.8 mk 2 and then it will be similar to Sony 70-400 lens in price

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Skroob Regular Member • Posts: 268
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

Wow, 3K for a Variable Aperture lens. Its the most expensive Nikon VA lens (aside from the current 80-400) by about tripple the cost.

You would be better off just getting the 70-200 2.8 and a 1.7x then.

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thomas2279f
OP thomas2279f Senior Member • Posts: 2,862
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

True think Nikon are copying Sony & Canon in their pricing scheme, for extra £1k you could pick up the 200-400 F4 second hand on Ebay...

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Glen78 Senior Member • Posts: 1,411
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

I don't think the US MSRP is going to be $2999 since that is a straight currency conversion from the rumored Japanese price of 275,000 yen. US MSRP will likely be around $2000 - I might consider it only if the performance at 400 f/5.6 is on par with a 300 f/4 + 1.4 TC. I somewhat doubt this will be the case but at least the pricing would begin to be competitive with the alternative and I assume it will also have the latest VR (3rd generation, 5 stops improvement).

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Antal I Kozma Senior Member • Posts: 2,575
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.
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thomas2279f wrote:

Rumour announced today:-

http://www.cameraegg.org/af-s-nikkor-80-400mm-f4-5-5-6g-ed-vr-to-be-announced-on-march-14-2013/

Price at $2999 equivalent to £2000 or 2100 Euro, I wait 6 months or so and price will be around current 70-200 AFS F2.8 mk 2 and then it will be similar to Sony 70-400 lens in price

Hi,

I find it interesting that the name of the lens says "G" but the image shows a real manual aperture ring that is not consistent with "G" lenses. SO, either the image is fake or Nikon reintroduced the manual aperture ring on this lens.

My opinion is the the image is not of the rumoured lens but a simple Photoshop makeover. I wish I was wrong.

Best,

AIK

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Shotcents
Shotcents Veteran Member • Posts: 4,472
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

It will not be 3K.

They won't sell many if it's too much above 2K for a VA lens.

I hope it's good at the long end!

Robert

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thomas2279f
OP thomas2279f Senior Member • Posts: 2,862
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

Hi.

Its a picture of the old lens - hope the lens does come along and is cheaper than reported.

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gurgeh Regular Member • Posts: 313
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

Antal I Kozma wrote:,

I find it interesting that the name of the lens says "G" but the image shows a real manual aperture ring that is not consistent with "G" lenses. SO, either the image is fake or Nikon reintroduced the manual aperture ring on this lens.

My opinion is the the image is not of the rumoured lens but a simple Photoshop makeover. I wish I was wrong.

Best,

AIK

The image is of the current 80-400 as it says on the legend right below the image.

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thomas2279f
OP thomas2279f Senior Member • Posts: 2,862
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

Be quite good  if it is TC friendly especially with the TC1.4

If it is compatible with the TC 2.0III could be useful although be quite slow at F/9 - F/11 and only in MF - and quality maybe doubtful ?

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jfriend00 Forum Pro • Posts: 11,568
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

thomas2279f wrote:

Be quite good if it is TC friendly especially with the TC1.4

If it is compatible with the TC 2.0III could be useful although be quite slow at F/9 - F/11 and only in MF - and quality maybe doubtful ?

Don't go expecting this type of f/5.6 zoom to work well with a TC 2.0.  You'd be f/11 at the long end which is beyond the specs for AF on Nikon's newest bodies.  There might be some  ideal circumstances where AF would work, but I'd think you would mostly be in manual focus and obviously, you'd be stuck with a max aperture of f/11.

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joejack951 Senior Member • Posts: 2,682
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

thomas2279f wrote:

Be quite good if it is TC friendly especially with the TC1.4

It would be the first variable aperture zoom to be Nikon TC-compatible if it is. I wouldn't hold my breath.

If it is compatible with the TC 2.0III could be useful although be quite slow at F/9 - F/11 and only in MF - and quality maybe doubtful ?

Definitely MF only, especially on anything pre-D4/D800/D600 and likely with those bodies too. Whether or not the IQ is acceptable will be up to the end user. f/5.6 + a 2X TC is f/11 wide open and f/16 stopped down a full stop.

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JimPearce
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Once upon a time...

I really wanted this lens. Now I'm not so sure it adds much to a kit including a 70-200 f2.8 VR, a 300 f2.8 VR and a 500 f4 AF-S. But I see it having wide appeal - and better late than never.

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joejack951 Senior Member • Posts: 2,682
Re: Once upon a time...

JimPearce wrote:

I really wanted this lens. Now I'm not so sure it adds much to a kit including a 70-200 f2.8 VR, a 300 f2.8 VR and a 500 f4 AF-S. But I see it having wide appeal - and better late than never.

It might not "add" anything but carrying the 80-400 instead of the kit detailed above would certainly mean a lot less weight. It wouldn't be my first choice (I'd take your kit in a heartbeat, money no object) but for someone on a stricter budget, it makes a lot of sense.

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nunatak Senior Member • Posts: 2,739
Re: Once upon a time...

JimPearce wrote:

... Now I'm not so sure it adds much to a kit including a 70-200 f2.8 VR, a 300 f2.8 VR and a 500 f4 AF-S. ...

today, while shooting BIF, i encountered a murder of crows. they were in a swirling trance as they climbed high over me. a vortex of epic magnitude — well over 50. by the time i swapped out my 500mm f4 and swapped in my 70-300mm — they had climaxed and exploded into pairs that spun off in vastly different directions. this is one moment where i wished i had a super-tele zoom over my high end prime. c'est la vie.

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Rich Dykmans Senior Member • Posts: 2,543
Re: Once upon a time...

nunatak wrote

today, while shooting BIF, i encountered a murder of crows. they were in a swirling trance as they climbed high over me. a vortex of epic magnitude — well over 50. by the time i swapped out my 500mm f4 and swapped in my 70-300mm — they had climaxed and exploded into pairs that spun off in vastly different directions. this is one moment where i wished i had a super-tele zoom over my high end prime. c'est la vie.

We don't even need to see an image you described it so well!

Hopefully the optics are getting a major improvement along with VR and faster AF. I'd pay $2K+ for that

Rich Dykmans Senior Member • Posts: 2,543
it's official now!

thomas2279f wrote:

Rumour announced today:-

http://www.cameraegg.org/af-s-nikkor-80-400mm-f4-5-5-6g-ed-vr-to-be-announced-on-march-14-2013/

Price at $2999 equivalent to £2000 or 2100 Euro, I wait 6 months or so and price will be around current 70-200 AFS F2.8 mk 2 and then it will be similar to Sony 70-400 lens in price

Well it's official now

maging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/zoom/telephotozoom/af-s_80-400mmf_45-56g_ed_vr/index.htm

Knute Regular Member • Posts: 484
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.

$3,000 for a F/5.6 400mm zoom? No thanks, I'd rather get the Sigma 120-300 F/2.8 and 1.4x TC for just a little more.

I hope it ends up being a stellar lens for those who buy it though.

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bflood Senior Member • Posts: 1,711
Re: New Rumor of replacement to 80-400 AF VR Lens.
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nunatak Senior Member • Posts: 2,739
super ED element?

"...a new optical design utilizing four ED lens elements and one super ED lens element, Nano Crystal Coat, which effectively reduces ghost and flare, a vibration reduction (VR) function that enables compensation for camera shake equivalent to a 4-step increase in shutter speed (tested in accordance with CIPA guidelines at a focal length of 400 mm), and a Silent Wave Motor (SWM)..."

the only other nikon lens i'm familiar with that has a super ED element is the super-sharp, super-bokehful 200mm f2 AF-S ... not that this guarentees similar performance.

OTOH, it looks like a tripod collar and mount is an additional option. just as well. given nikon's poor track record ... an RRS or Kirk addition might be a more solid addition.

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nunatak Senior Member • Posts: 2,739
apples for apples

bflood wrote:

maybe. or it might inspire sigma to finally build a decent alternative that can compete at the long end. if the MTF charts are accurate, the new nikkor appears to be optimized for the long end, whereas the sigma VA super-tele zooms (all of them) are optimized for the short-middle.

it boils down to what's "good enough", and higher rez sensors demand high rez glass at the most important focal lengths.

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