How did we survive?

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orangganjil New Member • Posts: 7
How did we survive?
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I was thinking about this today and don't want to seem snarky, but reading through the forums here it makes me wonder how some of those who post here would have fared during the film days. No focus peaking, no auto ISO, being stuck with a specific ISO for a full roll of film, very little dynamic range (Velvia 50, anyone?), an OVF only, no noise reduction, no sharpening, having to use light meters, no histograms, etc.

Instead, pick a roll of film that gives you the color, contrast, speed, and clarity you desire, pop it in the camera, and shoot. Once done, take the slide film to the developer and view the photos on a light table once developed.

We somehow managed.

Regards,

Cody

Imagefoundry Regular Member • Posts: 269
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yup, I remember prefogging velvia to take the edge off a little. could do it with my eyes closed.

how did we manage? - well, the pay was good back thenĀ 

WT Jones Senior Member • Posts: 2,495
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I often wondered that myself. Add how did we manage without out IS too.

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orangganjil wrote:

I was thinking about this today and don't want to seem snarky, but reading through the forums here it makes me wonder how some of those who post here would have fared during the film days.

We somehow managed.

And some of us are still managing.

Shot last week on FUJIFILM Provia slide film:

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Tom Schum
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Back then there was very little communication so there were more of the local photo clubs, and there were more photo magazines I guess.

Now all you have to do is push a button and your photo is instantly published and accessible to untold millions.  Not that it is any good as a photo, of course.

I think it's better now.  I prefer the present to the past.  No more smelly chemicals all the time!

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ISO 400 B&W film and a boat load of latitude.

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Asylum Photo wrote:

ISO 400 B&W film and a boat load of latitude.

Even color negative film has enormous exposure latitude.

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Joel Stern
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It would seem we did but others would not have. I liked film days, but I rolled my own tri-x.

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Joel Stern wrote:

It would seem we did but others would not have. I liked film days, but I rolled my own tri-x.

I suspect that a lot of people who never shot film would be knocked on their A$$ at the level of difference such shooting takes.  Those who can adapt and learn would benefit enormously from the discipline that film imposes.  The rest would run away fast, clinging hard to the comfort that digital allows.

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stdavid Senior Member • Posts: 1,842
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My first real  real camera was a 1976 Nikon  F2AS (Well over 150+ thousand+ photos  and not ONE malfunction of the camera). I kept it and used the hell out of it till 2001 when I sold it and went Digital.

What amazes me these days are people that have to trade in their cameras every time a new model comes along. The vast majority of them haven't even begun to get the most out of the equipment they have. They are equipment jumkies..not photographers IMO.

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Charles C Lloyd Senior Member • Posts: 1,114
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I can tell you that I would not be doing photography whatsoever if film were involved.  For a while a decade ago, I got excited about photography and my own abilities to get attractive results.  Then I realized there are millions of people who are even better and how (relatively) easy it is to be a very good photographer these days, and I lost interest again.  The technology has devalued the art form through dilution.  I now use it as a tool to record my experiences more than a way to express art.  I am very happy that my new X-E1 records the excellent images I get without my having to fret over too many things.

Photozopia
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Back in the day it was second nature ... no fall-backs or excuses. Sometimes days before you saw the processed results. Poor results were usually the fault of the photographer - rarely the camera or film.

Now ... the camera is always to blame.

Despite digital technology that would have been sheer science fiction thirty years ago or so, certain 'photographers' now automatically think it's something wrong with their camera when the glorious images they anticipated fail to emerge.

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Photozopia wrote:

Back in the day it was second nature ... no fall-backs or excuses. Sometimes days before you saw the processed results. Poor results were usually the fault of the photographer - rarely the camera or film.

Now ... the camera is always to blame.

Despite digital technology that would have been sheer science fiction thirty years ago or so, certain 'photographers' now automatically think it's something wrong with their camera when the glorious images they anticipated fail to emerge.

Heh heh heh....well said.

Delta 3200 @ ISO3200. Shot last week.

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Nice shots - I keep meaning to dig out my old film stuff, to get back to my roots, etc. but rarely do!

Damn the convenience of digital imaging ...

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Photozopia wrote:

Nice shots - I keep meaning to dig out my old film stuff, to get back to my roots, etc. but rarely do!

Damn the convenience of digital imaging ...

Best thing to happen to me in a long time.  I've shot 250 or so rolls of film during the last 4-5 months.  So much fun!

Provia 400X

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Expensive hobby! Results speak for themselves though ...

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Photozopia wrote:

Expensive hobby! Results speak for themselves though ...

Buying an X-E1 and a bunch of lenses aint cheap!

Neopan Across 100 film:

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nixda Veteran Member • Posts: 3,968
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orangganjil wrote:

I was thinking about this today and don't want to seem snarky, but reading through the forums here it makes me wonder how some of those who post here would have fared during the film days. No focus peaking, no auto ISO, being stuck with a specific ISO for a full roll of film, very little dynamic range (Velvia 50, anyone?), an OVF only, no noise reduction, no sharpening, having to use light meters, no histograms, etc.

Instead, pick a roll of film that gives you the color, contrast, speed, and clarity you desire, pop it in the camera, and shoot. Once done, take the slide film to the developer and view the photos on a light table once developed.

We somehow managed.

Doesn't that apply to just about anything, in any era? Cars, Internet, travel, etc. In 30 years our kids will realize that it is possible to have survived 2013.

I can tell you, though, that falling back to the roots isn't always fun. Just try to deal with cloth diapers. But what one doesn't do for the planet... I'm all for embracing the conveniences that modern technology delivers.

Just keep your fingers away from my 50-year old Mauviel copper pans, and my 25-year old Rotel equipment!

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orangganjil wrote:

I was thinking about this today and don't want to seem snarky, but reading through the forums here it makes me wonder how some of those who post here would have fared during the film days. No focus peaking, no auto ISO, being stuck with a specific ISO for a full roll of film, very little dynamic range (Velvia 50, anyone?), an OVF only, no noise reduction, no sharpening, having to use light meters, no histograms, etc.

Instead, pick a roll of film that gives you the color, contrast, speed, and clarity you desire, pop it in the camera, and shoot. Once done, take the slide film to the developer and view the photos on a light table once developed.

We somehow managed.

Doesn't that apply to just about anything, in any era? Cars, Internet, travel, etc. In 30 years our kids will realize that it is possible to have survived 2013.

I can tell you, though, that falling back to the roots isn't always fun. Just try to deal with cloth diapers. But what one doesn't do for the planet... I'm all for embracing the conveniences that modern technology delivers.

Just keep your fingers away from my 50-year old Mauviel copper pans, and my 25-year old Rotel equipment!

I had a Rotel 955 CD player.  Not quite 25 years old, but it's getting there.  My main stereo amp was this.  Back when America used to make stuff!

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awgk Regular Member • Posts: 265
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I remember when you could pick up a Leica M4 for $200.00, the days have changed but it was fun and challenging. Carried two cameras because I needed two types of film. On the other hand I enjoy verging freedoms digital give you.

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