D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

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CarlosNunezUSA
CarlosNunezUSA Contributing Member • Posts: 579
D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...



I have enjoyed using D7000 since day one. In some sense the challenges I had to overcome to get some quality pictures with the camera helped me grow as a photographer. But now I think I need more, so I have been planing a move to FF for some time.

The two options I have so far D600 or D800 seem good, yet I would like to hear the opinions of people who have had D7000 and jumped to FF. What's good? what's not so good? Any regrets?

Here are some of the latest pics I got with my D7000:

Carlos http://www.charlysworld.com

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TOR8472 Senior Member • Posts: 1,616
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

I am tempted to move from D7000 to FF as well, but I am going to wait to see what the D400 brings before deciding.

However, I love ultrawide and shallow DOF. The thought that jumps out at me in looking at your posted photos are that you like telephoto and macro - the two types of shooting I can think of that would be a mistake/step backwards to switch to FF.

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digitalman4242 Senior Member • Posts: 1,655
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

I bought a D600 last week.  Sold my D7000 two days later.  Difference for me was HUGE.  #1 the AF is so much better in low light and moving objects.  That was the biggest thing I really liked with the D600 over the D7000.  Skin tones are alot better.  Low light ISO and noise is so much better also.  Another thing I noticed (probably due to the AF) I rarely ever get a soft photo anymore.

CarlosNunezUSA
CarlosNunezUSA OP Contributing Member • Posts: 579
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

TOR8472 wrote:

I am tempted to move from D7000 to FF as well, but I am going to wait to see what the D400 brings before deciding.

However, I love ultrawide and shallow DOF. The thought that jumps out at me in looking at your posted photos are that you like telephoto and macro - the two types of shooting I can think of that would be a mistake/step backwards to switch to FF.

You are correct. I do a lot of Telephoto and Macro. I may keep my D7000 even after going FF just because it's lightweight and have more reach, but in the other hand DOF control is limiting my shots and I want to work more on ultra wide as weel.

One thing I would like to know more about is how well the D800 perfoms when using APS-C lenses. I haven't seen any good reviews about that.

Carlos
http://www.charlysworld.com

 CarlosNunezUSA's gear list:CarlosNunezUSA's gear list
Nikon D7000 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR Nikon AF-S Nikkor 24-70mm f/2.8G ED Tamron SP AF 90mm F/2.8 Di Macro +1 more
QuicksilverCA Contributing Member • Posts: 543
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

Nice pics

herbymel Senior Member • Posts: 5,321
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

CarlosNunezUSA wrote:

TOR8472 wrote:

I am tempted to move from D7000 to FF as well, but I am going to wait to see what the D400 brings before deciding.

However, I love ultrawide and shallow DOF. The thought that jumps out at me in looking at your posted photos are that you like telephoto and macro - the two types of shooting I can think of that would be a mistake/step backwards to switch to FF.

You are correct. I do a lot of Telephoto and Macro. I may keep my D7000 even after going FF just because it's lightweight and have more reach, but in the other hand DOF control is limiting my shots and I want to work more on ultra wide as weel.

One thing I would like to know more about is how well the D800 perfoms when using APS-C lenses. I haven't seen any good reviews about that.

Carlos
http://www.charlysworld.com

Mine has worked just fine for the amount that I've shot with the APS-C lenses, it'll automatically switch to DX mode if you like, which I'm sure you know...but with my tokina 12-24 I can use it on FX from 18mm on and still get good image quality. It's not going to be my solution forever, but it works pretty well for now.

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rhlpetrus Forum Pro • Posts: 24,490
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

digitalman4242 wrote:

I bought a D600 last week. Sold my D7000 two days later. Difference for me was HUGE. #1 the AF is so much better in low light and moving objects. That was the biggest thing I really liked with the D600 over the D7000. Skin tones are alot better. Low light ISO and noise is so much better also. Another thing I noticed (probably due to the AF) I rarely ever get a soft photo anymore.

Interesting, I'm planning to get the D600 as well, but will likely keep the D7k as a second body and when I need the extra reach.

Thanks.

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rhlpetrus Forum Pro • Posts: 24,490
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

Going the same way but will keep D7k as a second body, you never know when a camera will fail.

It looks like the D600 is awesome in all aspects (after a few sensor clean-ups ).

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rhlpetrus Forum Pro • Posts: 24,490
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

herbymel wrote:

CarlosNunezUSA wrote:

TOR8472 wrote:

I am tempted to move from D7000 to FF as well, but I am going to wait to see what the D400 brings before deciding.

However, I love ultrawide and shallow DOF. The thought that jumps out at me in looking at your posted photos are that you like telephoto and macro - the two types of shooting I can think of that would be a mistake/step backwards to switch to FF.

You are correct. I do a lot of Telephoto and Macro. I may keep my D7000 even after going FF just because it's lightweight and have more reach, but in the other hand DOF control is limiting my shots and I want to work more on ultra wide as weel.

One thing I would like to know more about is how well the D800 perfoms when using APS-C lenses. I haven't seen any good reviews about that.

Carlos
http://www.charlysworld.com

Mine has worked just fine for the amount that I've shot with the APS-C lenses, it'll automatically switch to DX mode if you like, which I'm sure you know...but with my tokina 12-24 I can use it on FX from 18mm on and still get good image quality. It's not going to be my solution forever, but it works pretty well for now.

I will likely use the Nikkor 12-24 from 18 and up as well before I decide on the UWA that I'll get. The 16-35 f/4 is likely the one I need, but distortion at 16 is terrible. Maybe Nikon will update it at some point, or the 17-35 f/2.8.

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Renato. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhlpedrosa/ OnExposure member http://www.onexposure.net/ Good shooting and good luck (after Ed Murrow)

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evan47
evan47 Senior Member • Posts: 1,052
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

digitalman4242 wrote:

I bought a D600 last week. Sold my D7000 two days later. Difference for me was HUGE. #1 the AF is so much better in low light and moving objects. That was the biggest thing I really liked with the D600 over the D7000. Skin tones are alot better. Low light ISO and noise is so much better also. Another thing I noticed (probably due to the AF) I rarely ever get a soft photo anymore.

the reason the photos are less soft is the fact that the d600 has less pixel density. this makes it more forgiving re technique.

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imac2001
imac2001 Contributing Member • Posts: 529
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

pixel density made no difference for me. I thought my D7000 had terribly unreliable AF. I think many people had bodies like mine, so the perfect AF on the D600 makes a huge difference.

CarlosNunezUSA
CarlosNunezUSA OP Contributing Member • Posts: 579
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

rhlpetrus wrote:

digitalman4242 wrote:

I bought a D600 last week. Sold my D7000 two days later. Difference for me was HUGE. #1 the AF is so much better in low light and moving objects. That was the biggest thing I really liked with the D600 over the D7000. Skin tones are alot better. Low light ISO and noise is so much better also. Another thing I noticed (probably due to the AF) I rarely ever get a soft photo anymore.

Interesting, I'm planning to get the D600 as well, but will likely keep the D7k as a second body and when I need the extra reach.

Thanks.

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Renato. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhlpedrosa/ OnExposure member http://www.onexposure.net/ Good shooting and good luck (after Ed Murrow)

That was my thinking too Renato, but sometimes I wonder if  D600 is  going to be "enough". I don't care much about the megapixels, but I would not mind having more cross type sensors with better distribution thorugh the frame. In any case if I go with D600 I would keep the D7000 too.

Carlos
http://www.charlysworld.com

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CarlosNunezUSA
CarlosNunezUSA OP Contributing Member • Posts: 579
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

QuicksilverCA wrote:

Nice pics

Thanks!

Carlos
http://www.charlysworld.com

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CarlosNunezUSA
CarlosNunezUSA OP Contributing Member • Posts: 579
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

imac2001 wrote:

pixel density made no difference for me. I thought my D7000 had terribly unreliable AF. I think many people had bodies like mine, so the perfect AF on the D600 makes a huge difference.

What's your opinion about the distribution of focus points on D600?  I see they are more "concentrated" on the center of the frame, I would have preffered the point spread a little more like in D800.

Carlos
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(unknown member) Contributing Member • Posts: 672
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...
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I have both a D7K and recent D600. It takes a bit of time to get used to the smaller focus area. I was shooting a play last night on the D600, there were two times I missed shots because I had to focus/recompose (or tired to). If I had the D7K both shots I could have moved the focus point and the 3D tracking would have nailed it.

BTW - going between these two bodies is really easy - only gotcha is Nikon chose to swap the + /- for the picture review.

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Reilly Diefenbach
Reilly Diefenbach Forum Pro • Posts: 10,061
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

The D800e is a dream come true for me and my 'scapes.  The D600 is almost as good.  Portraits are incredible with a good lens.  The first time you open up a batch of raws from your FX camera, you'll know.  Don't take my word for it, rent first if you can.

herbymel Senior Member • Posts: 5,321
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

rhlpetrus wrote:

herbymel wrote:

CarlosNunezUSA wrote:

TOR8472 wrote:

I am tempted to move from D7000 to FF as well, but I am going to wait to see what the D400 brings before deciding.

However, I love ultrawide and shallow DOF. The thought that jumps out at me in looking at your posted photos are that you like telephoto and macro - the two types of shooting I can think of that would be a mistake/step backwards to switch to FF.

You are correct. I do a lot of Telephoto and Macro. I may keep my D7000 even after going FF just because it's lightweight and have more reach, but in the other hand DOF control is limiting my shots and I want to work more on ultra wide as weel.

One thing I would like to know more about is how well the D800 perfoms when using APS-C lenses. I haven't seen any good reviews about that.

Carlos
http://www.charlysworld.com

Mine has worked just fine for the amount that I've shot with the APS-C lenses, it'll automatically switch to DX mode if you like, which I'm sure you know...but with my tokina 12-24 I can use it on FX from 18mm on and still get good image quality. It's not going to be my solution forever, but it works pretty well for now.

I will likely use the Nikkor 12-24 from 18 and up as well before I decide on the UWA that I'll get. The 16-35 f/4 is likely the one I need, but distortion at 16 is terrible. Maybe Nikon will update it at some point, or the 17-35 f/2.8.

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Renato. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhlpedrosa/ OnExposure member http://www.onexposure.net/ Good shooting and good luck (after Ed Murrow)

That is also the direction I'm going in...and probably would've next month...but my dentist had other plans. Maybe he'll take my old tamron MF 300 2.8 as payment. I will probably lean toward the 16-35 though, but it depends on what I can find used at the moment.

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imac2001
imac2001 Contributing Member • Posts: 529
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

For me it makes no difference. Interestingly, I when in auto area af, it will focus well outside of the focus array. When taking portraits, for example, it will focus on the eyes of the subject, even when they are out of the focus areas range. certain focus points will light up in the array, but the focus will be on the eyes. This is extremely important to me at weddings because my D700, which also does this, has allowed me greater compositional freedom since I don't have to worry about focus points.

CarlosNunezUSA
CarlosNunezUSA OP Contributing Member • Posts: 579
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

Reilly Diefenbach wrote:

The D800e is a dream come true for me and my 'scapes. The D600 is almost as good. Portraits are incredible with a good lens. The first time you open up a batch of raws from your FX camera, you'll know. Don't take my word for it, rent first if you can.

Thank's Reilly, that's actually a very good idea. I'll try to rent both cameras first and see what the results are before deciding which one get the money

Carlos
http://www.charlysworld.com

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CarlosNunezUSA
CarlosNunezUSA OP Contributing Member • Posts: 579
Re: D7000 - some pictures and decisions to be made...

imac2001 wrote:

For me it makes no difference. Interestingly, I when in auto area af, it will focus well outside of the focus array. When taking portraits, for example, it will focus on the eyes of the subject, even when they are out of the focus areas range. certain focus points will light up in the array, but the focus will be on the eyes. This is extremely important to me at weddings because my D700, which also does this, has allowed me greater compositional freedom since I don't have to worry about focus points.

So even if the subject is out of the focus point area it's still tracked? interesting.

I'm usually in Manual. I only put the camera in AF-A when I hand the camera to someone who doesn't know anything about photography (wife, family, etc) - or in case I had too many Tequila shots

Carlos
http://www.charlysworld.com

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