Which would you prefer? Olympus 75 1.8 vs canon 135L 2.0

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cozen89 Junior Member • Posts: 30
Which would you prefer? Olympus 75 1.8 vs canon 135L 2.0

I'm currently looking at the Olympus 75mm 1.8 lens for my omd-em5. The samples look pretty good, but now I'm wondering if I should just get a 135L for my 5d mark3. Anyone one out there have experience with both?

I know I may get some biased opinions here, but which set up would you rather use.  I shoot mainly portraits, behind the scenes, and landscapes. I will occasionally do some street photography. I love my 5d, but I'm really digging the bells and whistles and portability of my new omd-em5.

Opinions with some reasoning are appreciated!  Thanks!

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pdelux Contributing Member • Posts: 844
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If you use your OMD more and more, I would say get the 75mm.  The size difference will be worlds apart, though Cant speak for the quality.

I think you will get more use out of it, mainly due to its portability advantage compared to your canon.

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Re: Which would you prefer? Olympus 75 1.8 vs canon 135L 2.0
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cozen89 wrote:

I'm currently looking at the Olympus 75mm 1.8 lens for my omd-em5. The samples look pretty good, but now I'm wondering if I should just get a 135L for my 5d mark3. Anyone one out there have experience with both?

Love m43, use it all the time, and while I have never owned the 75, from the samples I've seen here, it really isn't in the same universe with the 135L on FF.  Apples and oranges, or in the case of lenses, the difference you get between zooms and primes.  I prefer to keep m43 portable (and cheap if possible), so for me the L primes and FF camera only come out when I am going to the limits in DOF control/low light.  And it is worth it.  If you are going to spend that much money, already have the FF camera and aren't put off by the size difference (the 135L is by-no-means a large lens, but combined with the 5D3, it does have a bit of bulk compared to the 75/1.8 + OMD), it would be a mistake to not go with the Canon.  The 75/1.8 is just not priced competitively for those of us free in our choice.

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OP cozen89 Junior Member • Posts: 30
Re: Which would you prefer? Olympus 75 1.8 vs canon 135L 2.0
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Thank you both for your insight. I guess what I'm looking for is a longer/faster lens for my OMD. For paid gigs and when portability isn't an issue I will always go to my 5d, but for all those other times such as vacation, street photography, and hanging out with friends, I will go to my EM5.  I just want something of higher image quality for those times. I guess buying the 75 1.8 would defeat the purpose of a inexpensive travel camera.  It is not a cheap lens.

I have the 20 1.7 and the Panasonic 45-175 lenses. I love the 20, but I'm looking for a longer, faster lens that puts out great image quality and bokeh. I've heard good things about the 45 1.8 which is cheaper than the 75 1.8

Is there any other lenses I should be looking at?

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Re: Which would you prefer? Olympus 75 1.8 vs canon 135L 2.0

cozen89 wrote:

Thank you both for your insight. I guess what I'm looking for is a longer/faster lens for my OMD. For paid gigs and when portability isn't an issue I will always go to my 5d, but for all those other times such as vacation, street photography, and hanging out with friends, I will go to my EM5. I just want something of higher image quality for those times. I guess buying the 75 1.8 would defeat the purpose of a inexpensive travel camera. It is not a cheap lens.

I have the 20 1.7 and the Panasonic 45-175 lenses. I love the 20, but I'm looking for a longer, faster lens that puts out great image quality and bokeh. I've heard good things about the 45 1.8 which is cheaper than the 75 1.8

Is there any other lenses I should be looking at?

Smaller and lighter does make a difference And is a major selling point for choosing M4/3.

If you don't mind using manual lenses, check out the recently discontinued Voigtländer 75mm f2.5 Color Heliar lens (Leica L39 screwmount). I bought one of these early this year and absolutely love it. The size (43mm filter) and weight (220g +adaptor) are a perfect match for my GH2. It's sharp wide open, has beautiful color and really nice character. You can find them used on KEH For about $300... Lens hood included.

I use mine for a variety of things, including night city streetscapes and street shooting. It's a real pleasure to use.

Voigtländer a makes another, newer 75mm f1.8 for $715 (Leica M mount), it's designed as a portrait lens and is supposedly a bit soft below f5.8. It looks exactly like their M4/3 Nokton 25mm and 17.5mm lenses.

There are also some excellent older 85mm lenses available. I was considering a Nikon 85mm f2 AI-S lens, before opting for the Voigtländer, mainly because of size. Nikon lens adaptors are 25mm thick vs. 9mm for Leica M and L adaptors and Nikon lenses are quite a bit larger diameter, too.

Here's the 75mm f2.5 on my GH2.



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Ken Strain Regular Member • Posts: 452
Re: Which would you prefer? Olympus 75 1.8 vs canon 135L 2.0
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I've used both - for landscape and portrait photography. For a year or so I had the 135 on 5Dii, and found it excellent. The 135 is below my personal threshold for a heavy lens, but obviously the 75 is easier to carry just in case. Optically there does not seem to be much difference - both are excellent when stopped down even a little bit. I think the 75 has better coatings, while the 135 could be awkward to use contre jour.

For outdoor portraits I usually used 135/2.8 to 135/3.5, so pretty much the same depth of field as the 75/1.8 wide open, taking into account the slightly greater distance for the same framing. For my other photography the lenses would typically be stopped down a little more.

Unfortunately my E-PL2 did not cooperate with the 75 - shutter shock was a big problem in mediocre light. I essentially had to use a tripod or monopod to avoid horrible double images even at around 1/180s. My new E-PM2 seems much superior in this respect, though I am still learning.

I no longer use Canon, but the 135mm was one of the better lenses I had. Likewise the 75 is an outstanding lens on m4/3.

Not sure if any of that helps though!

Ken

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A simple choice for me.....

cozen89 wrote:

I'm currently looking at the Olympus 75mm 1.8 lens for my omd-em5. The samples look pretty good, but now I'm wondering if I should just get a 135L for my 5d mark3. Anyone one out there have experience with both?

I know I may get some biased opinions here, but which set up would you rather use. I shoot mainly portraits, behind the scenes, and landscapes. I will occasionally do some street photography. I love my 5d, but I'm really digging the bells and whistles and portability of my new omd-em5.

Opinions with some reasoning are appreciated! Thanks!

If you're going to pay that sort of money for a specialised lens it comes down to one simple question, which will you use the most? If you're more likely to pick up the OMD and 75mm and take it with you then that's the one to get. If you value that extra shallow dof from the Canon and will use it more then get that lens. Lenses like these are too expensive to be gathering dust and represent bad value if that becomes the case. I very much doubt you would be disappointed with either so pick the one you're most likely to use, it's as simple as that for me personally.

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Re: Which would you prefer? Olympus 75 1.8 vs canon 135L 2.0

Chez Wimpy wrote:

cozen89 wrote:

I'm currently looking at the Olympus 75mm 1.8 lens for my omd-em5. The samples look pretty good, but now I'm wondering if I should just get a 135L for my 5d mark3. Anyone one out there have experience with both?

Love m43, use it all the time, and while I have never owned the 75, from the samples I've seen here, it really isn't in the same universe with the 135L on FF. Apples and oranges, or in the case of lenses, the difference you get between zooms and primes. I prefer to keep m43 portable (and cheap if possible), so for me the L primes and FF camera only come out when I am going to the limits in DOF control/low light. And it is worth it. If you are going to spend that much money, already have the FF camera and aren't put off by the size difference (the 135L is by-no-means a large lens, but combined with the 5D3, it does have a bit of bulk compared to the 75/1.8 + OMD), it would be a mistake to not go with the Canon. The 75/1.8 is just not priced competitively for those of us free in our choice.

The 75mm "isn't in the same universe with the 135L"? I have the 75 and my neighbor across the street has the 135L. The 75 f1.8 is most definitely in the same universe. If the samples you've seen haven't convinced you, you need to do your own side by side comparison.

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amtberg Veteran Member • Posts: 6,169
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I'd suggest you get the 45/1.8 for your OM-D.  It's very small and light -- fitting your MFT mission -- and it has great IQ, fast AF, and a very useful focal length.  I bet you'd get more use out of it in casual settings than you would the 75mm.

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Re: Which would you prefer? Olympus 75 1.8 vs canon 135L 2.0
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cozen89 wrote:

I'm currently looking at the Olympus 75mm 1.8 lens for my omd-em5. The samples look pretty good, but now I'm wondering if I should just get a 135L for my 5d mark3. Anyone one out there have experience with both?

I know I may get some biased opinions here, but which set up would you rather use. I shoot mainly portraits, behind the scenes, and landscapes. I will occasionally do some street photography. I love my 5d, but I'm really digging the bells and whistles and portability of my new omd-em5.

Opinions with some reasoning are appreciated! Thanks!

IMO

I'd buy Olympus 75/1.8 for E-M5

and

Canon 135L for  5d mark3.

I think I do not have to explain why.

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Re: Which would you prefer? Olympus 75 1.8 vs canon 135L 2.0
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I would buy the suitable lens for whichever system you want to use more...

The 135L on a 5dIII will be the better quality overall - the 135L is one of the best lenses out there, which coupled to a high end full frame camera like the 5dIII should give you some stunning results. The fact is though that this means a larger lens on a significantly larger body - if you are happy carrying the weight, then go for it.

The fact is though that you already sounds fairly happy with your OM-D, so presumably the difference in quality is worth it for the lesser size and weight, and features like IBIS and so on. If you have been finding yourself grabbing this setup more often then going for the 75mm (which while not having quite the reputation of the 135L is a superb lens) probably makes a bit more sense.

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Well

Before it was stolen, I was starting to find the E-520 too large for every day use, especially for street shooting and hiking, so I wouldn't go larger.  Size is less of a factor for studio work.

It comes down to which system you'll most be using that field of view,

do you need the extra shallow DoF from the Canon setup?

Do you want the portability of the Olympus?

Price is close.  IQ is close?  but the 75mm is about a third smaller and less than half the weight.

If it were me, I'd trade in the Canon kit on a second OM-D. (when the new one comes out?) But you're not me, are you?

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Since you have

the 45-175mm, you have both focal lengths (45 and 75) covered, and you can judge which is more valuable to you.

Since you're looking for a little more reach than 20mm, the 45 seems a more reasonable jump, at a more reasonable price. Look for a refurb to keep down the cost.  I have the 14mm 2.5  and 45mm 1.8 as my street/night time kit, the 12-50 for every day use, and 100-300 for birds.

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I have an E-M5 and more recently got a D800.  ever since getting the D800, I've tended to focus on expanding that setup, since the image quality is better and there is more to extract from the output.  the E-M5 is a fine camera and can hold its own against APS-C bodies and can print comfortably to decent sizes, but it falls short when compared to the latest 135-film frame bodies such as the D800 and 5DmkIII.

I was comparing prices between the m43 lenses and F-mount lenses when I got my D800 a couple months ago, and thought the m43 lenses were priced a bit too premium for how they are used.  the system has yet to have a true high-end model that can extract the most from the lenses and compete with the best from Canon and Nikon without compromising.  while the lenses may perform great, the final output from the system is what is important, not the performance of an individual component.

my m43 setup is fairly complete, but it is missing a nice autofocus macro.  with that in mind, I went off looking at the 60mm macro since I thought it'd make for a nice small setup, but in the end I bought a Nikkor 105mm Micro.  the prices were roughly the same (I went used on the Nikkor), not to mention that 36MP plus better working range trumped 16MP and a smaller size.  so my m43 setup is still missing an autofocus macro, but I now have a much better setup with the D800.

so as with the others, if you use the E-M5 extensively and the 75mm will be something that will expand its usability, then go for it.  otherwise, I think it is better to spend the money on the 5DmkIII setup.  if the size and weight of the 5DmkIII is a concern or might be a concern later, then spend the money on the m43 system.  otherwise, keep it conservative and stay with the more reasonable m43 offerings and maintain it as your compact take-anywhere camera.

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bcalkins Regular Member • Posts: 363
135L 2.0 + 45mm :)
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There is no clear cut answer.  The 135L will definitely do more for you in the sense of adding the option of less DOF.  I own the 75mm f/1.8 and have previously rented the 135L back when I shot Canon.  Except for use wide open I think they are pretty comparable.  Personally I use the 75mm as my travel telephoto along with the shorter focal length primes.  It is easy to slip the 75mm in my bag - but you won't be able to slip the 135L in because it require a whole extra body.  So the question to me come down to how you are going to use it.  If portability wasn't a factor, and I had both setups available I'd go for the 135L.  But of course portability is always a factor at some point.  The choice is between the ability to shoot with shallower DOF versus a lens you can always take with you...

Another factor to consider is that with the OM-D you are going to get the ability to shoot using the LCD - which can afford you more angle to shoot at and be less intimidating that shooting with a telephone prime to your eye.  You also get usable face detection.

But - this is about as blurred a background as you'll get with an adult in the photo full frame.  Of course you can get much more blur with a more distant background, or tighter crop on the face.



With the 45mm, I find you can get a similar amount of background blur (this is MORE blur than the last shot, but also just a child so I'm necessarily closer to the subject):



So maybe the best bet is the 135mmL AND the Oly 45mm

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Re: 135L 2.0 + 45mm :)

bcalkins wrote:

There is no clear cut answer. The 135L will definitely do more for you in the sense of adding the option of less DOF. I own the 75mm f/1.8 and have previously rented the 135L back when I shot Canon. Except for use wide open I think they are pretty comparable. Personally I use the 75mm as my travel telephoto along with the shorter focal length primes. It is easy to slip the 75mm in my bag - but you won't be able to slip the 135L in because it require a whole extra body. So the question to me come down to how you are going to use it. If portability wasn't a factor, and I had both setups available I'd go for the 135L. But of course portability is always a factor at some point. The choice is between the ability to shoot with shallower DOF versus a lens you can always take with you...

Another factor to consider is that with the OM-D you are going to get the ability to shoot using the LCD - which can afford you more angle to shoot at and be less intimidating that shooting with a telephone prime to your eye. You also get usable face detection.

But - this is about as blurred a background as you'll get with an adult in the photo full frame. Of course you can get much more blur with a more distant background, or tighter crop on the face.

So maybe the best bet is the 135mmL AND the Oly 45mm

I like your suggestion, but my wallet does not haha

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cozen89 wrote:

I'm currently looking at the Olympus 75mm 1.8 lens for my omd-em5. The samples look pretty good, but now I'm wondering if I should just get a 135L for my 5d mark3. Anyone one out there have experience with both?

I know I may get some biased opinions here, but which set up would you rather use. I shoot mainly portraits, behind the scenes, and landscapes. I will occasionally do some street photography. I love my 5d, but I'm really digging the bells and whistles and portability of my new omd-em5.

Opinions with some reasoning are appreciated! Thanks!

Is there a better canon lens than that 135L?  If you're willing to lug the canon (I wouldn't be) then get the 135L.  f2 on FF will give you more options.

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Go for the 75.  Quality is amazing and the portability with the quality makes it quite a different kind of  shooting experience.

I will try to post some samples soon but it gives you some full frame effects with max sharpness wide open.

It's a very impressive lens, one of the best I've shot with.

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Great samples!  Thanks for sharing.  What body were those taken on and were any of those at the minimal focal distance?  You make a solid case for the 75 considering quality like this in a small package would be great to have.

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