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NX210 vs EX2f

Started Nov 14, 2012 | Discussions
ac146 Regular Member • Posts: 322
NX210 vs EX2f

Hi!

Happy days!

My wife has agreed with me getting a new camera. I don't need one. I love my EX1. However, a new toy is always nice.

An easy path for me would be to go to the EX2f. I have the EX1 now. So my filters etc would work.

However, the 210 has a much larger sensor. So I'm guessing that the images taken with it (over the EX2f) would be sharper, clearer. Is that right?

However, what concerns with with the 210 is that the lens is only a f3.5 (vs f1.4 for the EX2f). Is the lens sensor lens combination for the 210 almost 8x slower than the ex2f. Or is the f3.5 for the APS-C more equivalent to the f1.4 with its sensor, in terms in brightness.

On the other hand, I might wait until the 300 comes out this winter. Perhaps there will some more customization features that will be useful.

Thanks

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monkeybrain Regular Member • Posts: 424
Re: NX210 vs EX2f

I'm not sure on the technicalities of comparing f1.4 on a compact sensor vs. f3.5 on a large sensor (I'm sure someone will come along with that knowledge), but what you should remember is that the larger sensor in any of the NX cameras means the camera can capture more light, compensating for any lower aperture. Of course, the f3.5 you refer to is only for the kits lens, you can more lenses for the NX cameras, for instance the 30mm f2 is very popular and very highly rated.

Regarding the aperture, on a compact camera the aperture is only really affecting brightness (unless you're very close to your subject), so f1.4 on a compact sensor will be bright but still have a large depth of field. On larger sensors f1.4 would produce a very bright image but with a small depth of field.

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Billx08 Forum Pro • Posts: 11,373
Re: NX210 vs EX2f

ac146 wrote:

Hi!

Happy days!

My wife has agreed with me getting a new camera. I don't need one. I love my EX1. However, a new toy is always nice.

An easy path for me would be to go to the EX2f. I have the EX1 now. So my filters etc would work.

However, the 210 has a much larger sensor. So I'm guessing that the images taken with it (over the EX2f) would be sharper, clearer. Is that right?

In most photo situations, yes, the NX210 would take sharper pictures.

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However, what concerns with with the 210 is that the lens is only a f3.5 (vs f1.4 for the EX2f). Is the lens sensor lens combination for the 210 almost 8x slower than the ex2f. Or is the f3.5 for the APS-C more equivalent to the f1.4 with its sensor, in terms in brightness.

Well, almost. f/1.4 would produce 8x greater light intensity per unit sensor area than f/4.0, so the difference between f/1.4 and f/3.5 is somewhat less, which I'd estimate is something like a 6.5x difference. There are two ways to estimate how much better the NX210's APS-C sensor is than the EX1/EX2. The first is based on DPR's Sensor Size glossary article which shows that APS-C sensors have about 8.6x the area of the EX1/EX2's 1/1.7" sensor, so the NX210 has a slight light gathering ability when it's used with an f/3.5 lens. The second method is empirical. I used DPR's studio scene comparison tool, and if you're concerned about brightness, you probably aren't using ISO 100, so I compared several parts of the studio scene with the EX1 at ISO 400 (there are no photos for the EX2 yet) and the NX210 using higher ISO levels until the results were comparable. What I found was that the NX210 could generally use ISO 6400 and still get similar results. This is a 4 stop advantage, so in low light the NX210 will have a clear advantage over the EX2. Put a faster lens on the NX210 and it'll be no contest, with the NX210 easily producing much better images.

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On the other hand, I might wait until the 300 comes out this winter. Perhaps there will some more customization features that will be useful.

But why not wait even longer? The NX400 should be a really, really, supercamera, even better than the EX4, and they'll be able to send tweets from one to the other, bringing photography down to a new level.

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hootsmon Contributing Member • Posts: 903
Re: NX210 vs EX2f

Billx08 wrote:

But why not wait even longer? The NX400 should be a really, really, supercamera, even better than the EX4, and they'll be able to send tweets from one to the other, bringing photography down to a new level.

True that.  But by that logic OP should wait even longer still, until NX500 is out, by which time the NX400 might be a killer bargain. 

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OP ac146 Regular Member • Posts: 322
Re: NX210 vs EX2f

hootsmon wrote:

Billx08 wrote:


But why not wait even longer? The NX400 should be a really, really, supercamera, even better than the EX4, and they'll be able to send tweets from one to the other, bringing photography down to a new level.

True that. But by that logic OP should wait even longer still, until NX500 is out, by which time the NX400 might be a killer bargain.

HaHa!

Point well made.

Actually, I was thinking that if the the 300 uses Android, then maybe it would be more customizable. Though what I could do with that I don't know.

The 210 uses a different battery than the EX1. Does Samsung have a compact camera that uses the same battery as the 210?

Thanks

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