Do you want a good laugh

Started Nov 2, 2012 | Discussions
Steve36 Senior Member • Posts: 2,237
Do you want a good laugh

then go over to the Challenge Discussions Forum and have a good read.

You'd think lives depended on it 

Anyone else think it's all taken too seriously and this attitude spoils what could be good fun.

Steve

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Ralph McKenzie Senior Member • Posts: 2,116
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I read the first thread and then viewed the third as I figured the 2nd was just more of the same.

You are right some take it very seriously, and why not. For some folk the ranking and feed back from these challenges can tell you if the type or style of photography you do appeals to a wider audience.

For someone considering doing photography as an income earner ( or potential earner) these challenges both here and at other major photography sites is a good way of being able to assess the possible market for ones work.

One of the reasons that major photography competitions are entered by people is to gain exposure that isn't always possible from local galleries. I entered 4 sections of the latest Nikon NZ competition here. 1st place got $6000 worth of Canon Pro gear as well as continued exposure in the country's top ranked photography magazine. Thats something most amateurs would love to have.

On occasion I have entered these competitions, recently for a national farming calender for 2013, and seen the winner go to (in my opinion) a mediocre entry that had been heavily photo shopped even though this wasn't allowed in the competition. To me that is cheating and negates everything you try to achieve in what you submit. I don't mind being beaten on technical issues, or composition, or even subject. I do however take great exception to people who win who have clearly ignored or broken the rules. If it was just me I would have said oh well next time, but when I see many of the other entrants also comment then clearly there is a problem.

In the thread you site, the original accuser neglected to stop and think and justly or unjustly accused the authors of the two images of being a cheat. No real substantiation was given other than a bit of rather contentious detective work. Had it not occurred to him/her that there may be two family members in the house with a D3000 and a D3100? Had it not occurred to him/her that they may have shared the services of a willing model? Had it not occurred to him/her that there can be more than one individual per household that likes photography, is competitive and likes to get some feed back?

Perhaps RaptorUK may have grounds for argument that the author was a cheat if the images had taken 1st &  2nd place. Perhaps then you would have had some reason to consider that something was amiss.

At the end of the day all I can say is you better have a bloody good reason to accuse someone of cheating, and have some pretty solid evidence to back it up, otherwise put up & shut up.

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Re: Do you want a good laugh

Hilarious! Thanks for posting

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Midwest Forum Pro • Posts: 18,355
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I have entered several dpreview challenges. I always do so with mixed feelings because it seems to me that there are some entrants who go through the competing entries and give them very low scores to drag down their average. I've seen excellent photos - even winning photos - having received the lowest possible half star rating. For my purposes that half star should be reserved for simply terrible shots, shots that do not fit the theme of the challenge, things like that.

I once entered a shot of my infant son getting his first bath at home and bawling his eyes out in unhappiness - technically it's very good and the composition is too. I got several half-star votes and was more than a bit annoyed. Not in any world was that shot 'poor'.

The people who take these things too seriously, who knows what they might do to help their own scores.

In the end it's like the quote by Larry King - "Talent doesn't ask 'will they like it?'. Talent pleases itself."

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Wellington100 Forum Pro • Posts: 11,795
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Steve36 wrote:

then go over to the Challenge Discussions Forum and have a good read.

You'd think lives depended on it

Anyone else think it's all taken too seriously and this attitude spoils what could be good fun.

Steve

Whats needed is a Liar & Cheats challenge. Obviously the "liars and cheats" think they have some especially good images so a Liar & Cheats challenge is a great way to let everyone else see these superior shots.

Entry is only for any image that has previously been deliberately entered incorrectly in another Challenge. anyone who cheats by entering a non scamming image, will be blacklisted forever from future challenges. Fake exif data, user names, dates and actual images are all welcome.

If I was going to go the liar and cheat route, I would not mess around, I would post Ansel Adams Moonrise as a photo taken last week from my back garden in New Zealand with my trusty Fuji F300 and PPed in iPhoto. I am sure that would fool everyone

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=ansel+adams+moonrise&hl=en&prmd=imvnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=_DSUUPWaMu6NiAe4hoH4Cg&sqi=2&ved=0CBwQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=679

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Billx08 Forum Pro • Posts: 11,373
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Midwest wrote:

I have entered several dpreview challenges. I always do so with mixed feelings because it seems to me that there are some entrants who go through the competing entries and give them very low scores to drag down their average. I've seen excellent photos - even winning photos - having received the lowest possible half star rating. For my purposes that half star should be reserved for simply terrible shots, shots that do not fit the theme of the challenge, things like that.

I once entered a shot of my infant son getting his first bath at home and bawling his eyes out in unhappiness - technically it's very good and the composition is too. I got several half-star votes and was more than a bit annoyed. Not in any world was that shot 'poor'.

One photo that I entered in a competition was of a famous building, still quite recognizable but not shot from the most familiar direction. The architect was also well known for some of his design principles, one of which was that his buildings should exist in harmony with their surroundings. One of the comments that it got (from someone just trying to help) was that the photo would have been improved if I had cropped the neighboring building out of the photo. In that sense I guess that the failure wasn't so much mine as Frank Lloyd Wright's.

"I’d like to have a free architecture. I’d like to have architecture that belonged where you see it standing, and was a grace to the landscape instead of a disgrace.” (Frank Lloyd Wright: From Within Outward Audioguide [New York: Antenna Audio, Inc. and the Solomon R. Guggenheim Foundation, 2009])

Although the word “organic” usually refers to something that bears the characteristics of plants or animals, for Frank Lloyd Wright the term organic architecture had a separate meaning. For him organic architecture was an interpretation of nature’s principles manifested in buildings that were in harmony with the world around them. Wright held that a building should be a product of its place and its time, intimately connected to a particular moment and site—never the result of an imposed style.

Wright was interested in the relationship between buildings and their surrounding environments. He believed that a building should complement its environment so as to create a single, unified space that appears to “grow naturally” out of the ground.

http://www.guggenheim.org/new-york/education/school-educator-programs/teacher-resources/arts-curriculum-online?view=item&catid=730&id=121

Barry Fitzgerald Forum Pro • Posts: 29,888
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So where is Kim when you need a good bar brawl?

OP Steve36 Senior Member • Posts: 2,237
LOL nt
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