Tamron 24-70 vs. Nikon 24-70...Worth the price difference?

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Shotcents
Shotcents Senior Member • Posts: 4,472
Re: Tamron 24-70 vs. Nikon 24-70...Worth the price difference?

Jose Rocha wrote:

Shotcents wrote:

I'm sorry, but this is simply not true. There is absolutely no noticeable differences in "tonal graduation" and "color pop." Bokeh was about the same. As I still owned the Nikon 24-70 at the time I "wanted" to prefer the Nikon, but the Tamron was really in the same league overall. You'd really be picking nits to choose one over the other for IQ.

Sorry, but there's no way you can say that both are equal at least in tonal gradation and bokeh. Bokeh at least is easily visible, and tonal gradations require more observation. The "pop" thing is subjective, I guess, and can vary depending on your picture control.

I tried the Tamron before and in the end I preferred the Nikkor because it was a better product overall (IQ, build, compactness, AF), and didn't like the zoom ring stiffness on the Tamron and the filter diameter. I wanted to save some money buying the Tamron over the Nikkor, but after playing a few days with the Tamron I am glad I returned it. For the money I spent on the Tamron I was expecting more, although the VC can be a big plus on occasions.

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There is nothing in the way of coating differences or any other "magic" detractors that effect tonal gradation between the Tamron and the Nikon. This is utter nonsense. There are plenty of comparisons between the two and I doubt anyone could pick which lens took which pic. It takes a good amount of pixel peeping to spot the differences, which have no real-world effects on picture taking. The Tamron was strong in some respects as was the Nikon, but both gave VERY high quality images. The Tamron has VC which means there are shots it can take that the Nikon cannot; pure and simple.

Even if they were the same price I'd still view the Tamron as a worthy choice.

As for the bokeh, I was never in love with the Nikon 24-70 bokeh, so I didn't notice if the Tamron was worse.

Robert

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Zeev Suraski Forum Member • Posts: 82
Re: Tamron 24-70 vs. Nikon 24-70...Worth the price difference?

Image Stabilization is really one of those features that should be standard in this day and age.

For night photography or indoor photography, IS/VR is almost always preferable to boosting ISO.  I can easily take shots at 1/10 with the Tamron 24-70 at 70mm, and there's absolutely no way I'd be able to do that on the Nikkor.

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Revision Contributing Member • Posts: 828
Re: Tamron 24-70 vs. Nikon 24-70...Worth the price difference?

What about the "onion Boke?

see http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/845350-REG/Tamron_SP_24_70mm_f_2_8_DI.html

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ShawnR Regular Member • Posts: 424
Re: Tamron 24-70 vs. Nikon 24-70...Worth the price difference?

On FF and DX bodies I use the lens for portrait (head shots/torso/full body/small groups) where I'm not looking for a very shallow DOF. On FF I'll also shoot landscapes if I don't need to go very wide.

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Rick77 OP Forum Member • Posts: 85
Re: Tamron 24-70 vs. Nikon 24-70...Worth the price difference?

Buying the 24-70 only makes sense if I used it for travel in low light and indoor conditions.  I have the 85 1.8 and 50 1.8 for portraits but I don't do a lot of those anyway. I have an 18-105 as a walkaround lens so maybe I have to consider whether it's worth the investment for the 24-70.  Is it too heavy or limited to use as a situational walk around (e.g. indoors..museums...etc.)?

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chicagois2 Contributing Member • Posts: 545
Re: Tamron 24-70 vs. Nikon 24-70...Worth the price difference?

yes... without a doubt.... yes.
I'm sure there is already an overwhelming opinion of yes, but yes.

Worth the $$ hands-down

msadat Regular Member • Posts: 108
Re: Tamron 24-70 vs. Nikon 24-70...Worth the price difference?

i had two of the tamron 24-70 in nikon mount specifically to use with d800 and the fact that it has a vc, both of my copies were bad, there is a problem with vc working @ low shutter speeds 60~200 or so and the aperture was misaligned on both copies and u did not see any change from 2.8 to 4.0. also lens rental did find some qc problems with vobelly lens elements . so my opinions is wait on the tamorn till they fix these issues

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ranalli Senior Member • Posts: 1,016
Re: Tamron 24-70 vs. Nikon 24-70...Worth the price difference?

Rick77 wrote:

I know the Nikon is the better lens, but is it worth the extra $600+ now that Tamron has an image stabilized alternative? I have a D90....looking to step up at some point (tempted by the D600 but have too many DX lenses). I would use it primarily for travel and family. Right now, I use either my 18-105 or one of my primes (35 1.8, 50 1.8, 85 1.8) but I was always envious of the 24-70 2.8.

Thanks for your help on this!

I can't remember where I read it or saw it(possibly Youtube) but somewhere said the Nikon had the better/faster auto-focus...which in my book is money well spent.

jsbeith Regular Member • Posts: 188
Re: Tamron 24-70 vs. Nikon 24-70...Worth the price difference?

Rick77 wrote:

I know the Nikon is the better lens, but is it worth the extra $600+ now that Tamron has an image stabilized alternative? I have a D90....looking to step up at some point (tempted by the D600 but have too many DX lenses). I would use it primarily for travel and family. Right now, I use either my 18-105 or one of my primes (35 1.8, 50 1.8, 85 1.8) but I was always envious of the 24-70 2.8.

Thanks for your help on this!

I have never shot with the Nikon 24-70 but my most recent lens purchase was the Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC which I use with my D7000.  I had to return my first copy because it was very soft across the whole image.  The second copy is fantastic!  One of my best photography investments ever.

Sharp, excellent focus, and great color rendition.  It is thick and heavy but is a perfect match for my gripped D7000.  I can see how it would be huge on a smaller body without a grip.

I am really happy I picked it up.

Scott

kayone Regular Member • Posts: 316
Some sample shots of the 24-70 + D600

I stopped by the local camera store today on other business and had my D600 body with me, so I asked to look at a copy of the 24-70 VC they had in stock. They let me attach it to the camera and play around with it for a bit. Construction and feel were fine, just like any other Tamron zoom lens.  To tax the VC system I set my ISO to 100 and fired off a handful of handheld shots in the interior of the store. I got some surprisingly good results as slow as 1/8 shutter speeds and I don't have steady hands at all when i shoot.

Rick77 OP Forum Member • Posts: 85
Re: Some sample shots of the 24-70 + D600

Those shots look great.  I'm still thinking of getting a D600 and cashing in some of my DX lenses.  Just can't decide which lens would be my walkaround. Is the 24-70 too big or short to be that lens?  Right now, I'm using an 18-105, so I'd be giving up a lot on the long end.  I've thought about the 28-300 but the reviews are so-so.

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kayone Regular Member • Posts: 316
Re: Some sample shots of the 24-70 + D600

This quick cell phone shot gives you an idea of the lens size to my D600 body, its quite well matched in size and weight I think.  If I didn't already own the Nikon 24-70mm I would give this lens a serious think

24-70 VC + Nikon D600

Andrew53 Regular Member • Posts: 297
Re: Some sample shots of the 24-70 + D600

I think I've spent the last 5 years and many dollars trying to answer the question of the Wide Range Zoom.

- Tamron 28-300. Nice and sharp at 28mm. Soft at 300 mm even at f11. Build quaility is awful.

- Nikon 28-300. OK at 300 mm, soft at 28mm (even at f11). Middle range is good. Build quaility is excellent.

- Canon 28-300L. Apparently the best for full-frame but I won't try because it is too big.

- Pentax 18-135 on K5. Very good results in a small size. (My favorite combination)

- D300 with 18-200. A very nice super-zoom combo.

- Tamron 18-270 (first version) my favorite super zoom. The newer (smaller) one has low contrast wide open.

-OM5 with 14-150. Excellent results. Hard to get bokeh.

D600 with the 24-70 would provide excellent images, but at the expence of focal length range. The kit with the 24-85 is quite impressive and might do the trick for you.

The issue, I believe, is it is very hard to make a good and reasonably small lens with decent quality from 28-300mm for a full-frame sensor. DX or APS-C is more approriate for super-zooms at this point in time.

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Rick77 OP Forum Member • Posts: 85
Re: Some sample shots of the 24-70 + D600

Thanks for the reply. What's driving me to consider the 28-300 is that I have an 18-105 on my D90 now effectively giving me about 155 at the long end. So I'm just concerned that I'll really miss that extra reach with the 65.

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Rich Rauenzahn Junior Member • Posts: 47
Re: Tamron 24-70 vs. Nikon 24-70...Worth the price difference?

Remind me - what camera features do we lose with 3rd party lenses?  Any?  Matrix metering?  Distortion processing in camera and in capture nx2?  I've never been clear on this.

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Re: Tamron 24-70 vs. Nikon 24-70...Worth the price difference?

Shotcents wrote:

1) Optically they are VERY close. You really have to pixel peep to see differences. The Nikon did better at 24-50mm, but I preferred the Tamron's superior center sharpness at 70mm.

http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/456-nikkor_afs_2470_28_ff?start=1

http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/789-tamron2470f28fx?start=1

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JakeB Contributing Member • Posts: 814
Re: Tamron 24-70 vs. Nikon 24-70...Worth the price difference?

One of the reasons you pay big money for an f2.8 zoom is to shoot a significant amount of photos with shallow dof. I've owned the Nikon 24-70 f2.8 for several years and have been extremely happy with the quality of the bokeh. It may not be up there with the very best primes, but it's still creamy, with smooth color transitions.

I don't own the Tamron but have examined a lot of shallow dof shots -- the Tamron is simply not in the same league.

If bokeh's important to you, you might decide it's worth the extra money for the Nikon.

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KennyXL Contributing Member • Posts: 784
Re: Tamron 24-70 vs. Nikon 24-70...Worth the price difference?

kayone wrote:

jessicagreen765 wrote:

Just wanted to say I love the 24-70mm lens

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Lassoni Regular Member • Posts: 459
Re: Tamron 24-70 vs. Nikon 24-70...Worth the price difference?

Thanatham Piriyakarnjanakul wrote:

Shotcents wrote:

1) Optically they are VERY close. You really have to pixel peep to see differences. The Nikon did better at 24-50mm, but I preferred the Tamron's superior center sharpness at 70mm.

http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/456-nikkor_afs_2470_28_ff?start=1

http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/789-tamron2470f28fx?start=1

This looks interesting. I would like to know however, is if these http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=618&Camera=614&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=786&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0 results are same, or if the sites have different way of testing, and would like to know which one is more accurate. According to that the tamron should be better most of the time

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z2122
z2122 Regular Member • Posts: 450
Re: Tamron 24-70 vs. Nikon 24-70...Worth the price difference?

Lassoni wrote:

Thanatham Piriyakarnjanakul wrote:

Shotcents wrote:

1) Optically they are VERY close. You really have to pixel peep to see differences. The Nikon did better at 24-50mm, but I preferred the Tamron's superior center sharpness at 70mm.

http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/456-nikkor_afs_2470_28_ff?start=1

http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/789-tamron2470f28fx?start=1

This looks interesting. I would like to know however, is if these http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=618&Camera=614&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=786&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0 results are same, or if the sites have different way of testing, and would like to know which one is more accurate. According to that the tamron should be better most of the time

i don't know if this is comparable.  one is on a nikon d3x and the other is on canon.  any opinion?

i had the tamron 24-70 on a d610 and 70mm on the tamron has not the same field of view compared to 70mm on a nikon 70-200f4

tamron was much shorter... maybe 60mm in reality...

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