The Olympus 75mm, tell me why I "need" it.

Started Oct 17, 2012 | Discussions
LPMILLER
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Re: Need?
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I appreciate all the input, let me clarify a few things.  Yes, I can afford the lens and the money's not burning a hole in my pocket, I have all the necessary accessory equipment I'll ever require, and, of course I don't desperately need it as it isn't a life threatening decision.  I do have experience shooting all focal lengths as I've been making my living from photography for many many years, so I do know the attributes of the various focal lengths. I have two OM-D's so switching back and forth won't be an issue.  One of the main reasons I made the switch to the OM-D was the portability it provides me over the much larger kit I've been hauling around for way too long, my back and I aren't getting any younger...;)  I have kept my four thirds SHG lenses for any situation that I figure might require such a lens, I still have an E-1 and an E-5, but after using the OM-D for the last several months, have no great desire to haul the larger and much heavier equipment around.  
I do appreciate sharp, high quality, fast glass, thus my keen interest in this lens.  So maybe I shouldn't have used the word "need", might I request then, that any of you with knowledge and experience with the 75 f1.8 give me some feedback based on your recent ownership of this, apparently, excellent piece of glass.
Thank you,
Lorne Miller

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tedolf
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No Need...
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LPMILLER wrote:

I appreciate all the input, let me clarify a few things.  Yes, I can afford the lens and the money's not burning a hole in my pocket, I have all the necessary accessory equipment I'll ever require, and, of course I don't desperately need it as it isn't a life threatening decision.  I do have experience shooting all focal lengths as I've been making my living from photography for many many years, so I do know the attributes of the various focal lengths. I have two OM-D's so switching back and forth won't be an issue.  One of the main reasons I made the switch to the OM-D was the portability it provides me over the much larger kit I've been hauling around for way too long, my back and I aren't getting any younger...;)  I have kept my four thirds SHG lenses for any situation that I figure might require such a lens, I still have an E-1 and an E-5, but after using the OM-D for the last several months, have no great desire to haul the larger and much heavier equipment around.  
I do appreciate sharp, high quality, fast glass, thus my keen interest in this lens.  So maybe I shouldn't have used the word "need", might I request then, that any of you with knowledge and experience with the 75 f1.8 give me some feedback based on your recent ownership of this, apparently, excellent piece of glass.
Thank you,
Lorne Miller

if you have lots of HG and SHG 4/3 glass then clearly you don't need this lens-you need an adapter.   Why is it so important to you that we justify an impulse purchases?      Tedoloph

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zabatman Regular Member • Posts: 435
Re: Need?
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I didn't "need" mine but I ordered it anyway

And I'm very pleased with it.

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clengman
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Re: The Olympus 75mm, tell me why I "need" it.

phototransformations wrote:

clengman wrote:

LPMILLER wrote:

I've been through numerous threads here regarding the Olympus "must have" primes, the 12, 40 and 75.  I must confess that I am a tried and true addict of zoom lenses as I find the versatility of them to be so useful and adaptable for any given situation.  I have had primes before, 50 mm macros and my first tele lens was a 135.  The only prime that I have very fond memories of, prior to shooting digital, was the Nikon AF DC-Nikkor 105mm f/2D.  This lens was absolutely gorgeous and the images it produced were of equal quality.  I utilized this lens.ii..

You didn't utilize it. You ​used​ it.

I'm not a big fan of "utilize" over "use," but there's nothing incorrect about "utilized" here. "Utilize" means "put to use," which is exactly what the OP did with his lens.


I don't know. Not according to the OED.

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LPMILLER
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Re: No Need...

tedolf wrote:

LPMILLER wrote:

I appreciate all the input, let me clarify a few things.  Yes, I can afford the lens and the money's not burning a hole in my pocket, I have all the necessary accessory equipment I'll ever require, and, of course I don't desperately need it as it isn't a life threatening decision.  I do have experience shooting all focal lengths as I've been making my living from photography for many many years, so I do know the attributes of the various focal lengths. I have two OM-D's so switching back and forth won't be an issue.  One of the main reasons I made the switch to the OM-D was the portability it provides me over the much larger kit I've been hauling around for way too long, my back and I aren't getting any younger...;)  I have kept my four thirds SHG lenses for any situation that I figure might require such a lens, I still have an E-1 and an E-5, but after using the OM-D for the last several months, have no great desire to haul the larger and much heavier equipment around.  
I do appreciate sharp, high quality, fast glass, thus my keen interest in this lens.  So maybe I shouldn't have used the word "need", might I request then, that any of you with knowledge and experience with the 75 f1.8 give me some feedback based on your recent ownership of this, apparently, excellent piece of glass.
Thank you,
Lorne Miller

if you have lots of HG and SHG 4/3 glass then clearly you don't need this lens-you need an adapter.   Why is it so important to you that we justify an impulse purchases?      Tedoloph

...maybe you should re-read this part: "One of the main reasons I made the switch to the OM-D was the portability it provides me over the much larger kit I've been hauling around for way too long, my back and I aren't getting any younger...;)  I have kept my four thirds SHG lenses for any situation that I figure might require such a lens, I still have an E-1 and an E-5, but after using the OM-D for the last several months, have no great desire to haul the larger and much heavier equipment around."

...not so sure why it's so hard to comprehend, but then, you seem to be good at continuously stirring up pots...

...and I already have an adapter, thank you, and I'm most certainly not seeking your approval, as I pointed out in my 2nd post!

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LPMILLER
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Re: The Olympus 75mm, tell me why I "need" it.
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clengman wrote:

phototransformations wrote:

clengman wrote:

LPMILLER wrote:

I've been through numerous threads here regarding the Olympus "must have" primes, the 12, 40 and 75.  I must confess that I am a tried and true addict of zoom lenses as I find the versatility of them to be so useful and adaptable for any given situation.  I have had primes before, 50 mm macros and my first tele lens was a 135.  The only prime that I have very fond memories of, prior to shooting digital, was the Nikon AF DC-Nikkor 105mm f/2D.  This lens was absolutely gorgeous and the images it produced were of equal quality.  I utilized this lens.ii..

You didn't utilize it. You ​ it.

I'm not a big fan of "utilize" over "use," but there's nothing incorrect about "utilized" here. "Utilize" means "put to use," which is exactly what the OP did with his lens.


I don't know. Not according to the OED.

...some of you guys really need to get a life - with all this c*ap you all seem to insist upon, it's not really worth asking anything here, so, once again, I guess I won't bother anymore, this site is totally ruined by all this kind of verbal trashing and constant flaming...

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TrapperJohn Forum Pro • Posts: 16,488
Um, size and excellence?
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Don't have the 75 (yet) but I do have the 45 1.8, and it is tiny! about as long as a 35mm film can, and maybe 25% thicker. It fits handily in a pocket without you getting those 'are you carrying a lens in your pocket or are you glad to see me?' looks.  Very sharp, very fast focusing, very portable, and not a bad price. I see the 45 as the ZD 50M of the M43 world: one of those 'really should get' lenses due to its combination of price and image quality.

The 75 is interesting, but I'm really more interested in the 60M. It solves one major problem of the ZD 50: it has a focus limit switch so you don't get those loooooong AF times when it misses lock on the first pass.

Okay, now let's see what that 14-35 can do on a good M43 body... I'm mulling over a lens purchase, and some of the SHG ZD's are attractively priced right now. 14-35, 35-100 or 150F2? I can afford one. Would have interesting uses for all of them, and Roel has already shown me what the 35-100 and 150 can do on an EM5. I'd be curious to see what the uber-sharp 14-35 can do.

Boris
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Re: No Need...
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I use my Pentax 77mmf1.8 via adapter on my OMD5 and manual focus is fine for stationary subjects but for moving subjects not so great ...especially shooting at f1.8. AF would be a great help to me.

I know a pretty good golfer who has probably 10 putters and too numerous to count drivers....does he need all of them?

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tedolf
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Re: No Need...

LPMILLER wrote:

tedolf wrote:

LPMILLER wrote:

I appreciate all the input, let me clarify a few things.  Yes, I can afford the lens and the money's not burning a hole in my pocket, I have all the necessary accessory equipment I'll ever require, and, of course I don't desperately need it as it isn't a life threatening decision.  I do have experience shooting all focal lengths as I've been making my living from photography for many many years, so I do know the attributes of the various focal lengths. I have two OM-D's so switching back and forth won't be an issue.  One of the main reasons I made the switch to the OM-D was the portability it provides me over the much larger kit I've been hauling around for way too long, my back and I aren't getting any younger...;)  I have kept my four thirds SHG lenses for any situation that I figure might require such a lens, I still have an E-1 and an E-5, but after using the OM-D for the last several months, have no great desire to haul the larger and much heavier equipment around.  
I do appreciate sharp, high quality, fast glass, thus my keen interest in this lens.  So maybe I shouldn't have used the word "need", might I request then, that any of you with knowledge and experience with the 75 f1.8 give me some feedback based on your recent ownership of this, apparently, excellent piece of glass.
Thank you,
Lorne Miller

if you have lots of HG and SHG 4/3 glass then clearly you don't need this lens-you need an adapter.   Why is it so important to you that we justify an impulse purchases?      Tedoloph

...maybe you should re-read this part: "One of the main reasons I made the switch to the OM-D was the portability it provides me over the much larger kit I've been hauling around for way too long, my back and I aren't getting any younger...;)  I have kept my four thirds SHG lenses for any situation that I figure might require such a lens, I still have an E-1 and an E-5, but after using the OM-D for the last several months, have no great desire to haul the larger and much heavier equipment around."

...not so sure why it's so hard to comprehend, but then, you seem to be good at continuously stirring up pots...

...and I already have an adapter, thank you, and I'm most certainly not seeking your approval, as I pointed out in my 2nd post!

So why do you need this lens?   Tedolph

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pablolie Contributing Member • Posts: 656
Re: The Olympus 75mm, tell me why I "need" it.
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I do love the 75mm's built quality, sharpness, bouquet. But it is a specialist lens. If it supported a shorter focus distance it might have been a bit more versatile. I thought I would be able to do more stuff with it. So while I shall not sell mine, I would not label it a must have lens for m43 - I'd pick more versatile lenses first: the 45, the 25, the 100-300. The Voigt 25:0.95. I would also rather part with the 75 than the zuiko 50:2.0. For the price I am a bit disappointed with its single minded focus.

as always, it depends on what personal shooting preferences are.

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pinnacle Senior Member • Posts: 2,545
Re: If only someone would debate the relative merits of primes vs zooms.

Start a new thread with that topic. It's been hashed to death but, it is always fun. There are now enough m43 primes to make for comparison. Stay away from the Oly SHG zooms. There is only one m43 prime that can even try and compete. The SHG optics simply don't have any competition.

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Absolutic
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Re: The Olympus 75mm, tell me why I "need" it.

pablolie wrote:


I do love the 75mm's built quality, sharpness, bouquet. But it is a specialist lens. If it supported a shorter focus distance it might have been a bit more versatile. I thought I would be able to do more stuff with it. So while I shall not sell mine, I would not label it a must have lens for m43 - I'd pick more versatile lenses first: the 45, the 25, the 100-300. The Voigt 25:0.95. I would also rather part with the 75 than the zuiko 50:2.0. For the price I am a bit disappointed with its single minded focus.

as always, it depends on what personal shooting preferences are.

you feel that way??? Hmmmm do you believe Canon's 135L, one of Canon's most popular lenses ever is also a specialist lens?  Just wondering

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Re: The Olympus 75mm, tell me why I "need" it.

LPMILLER wrote:

clengman wrote:

phototransformations wrote:

clengman wrote:

LPMILLER wrote:

I've been through numerous threads here regarding the Olympus "must have" primes, the 12, 40 and 75.  I must confess that I am a tried and true addict of zoom lenses as I find the versatility of them to be so useful and adaptable for any given situation.  I have had primes before, 50 mm macros and my first tele lens was a 135.  The only prime that I have very fond memories of, prior to shooting digital, was the Nikon AF DC-Nikkor 105mm f/2D.  This lens was absolutely gorgeous and the images it produced were of equal quality.  I utilized this lens.ii..

You didn't utilize it. You ​ it.

I'm not a big fan of "utilize" over "use," but there's nothing incorrect about "utilized" here. "Utilize" means "put to use," which is exactly what the OP did with his lens.


I don't know. Not according to the OED.

...some of you guys really need to get a life - with all this c*ap you all seem to insist upon, it's not really worth asking anything here, so, once again, I guess I won't bother anymore, this site is totally ruined by all this kind of verbal trashing and constant flaming...

Perhaps the responses have something to do with how you formulated original question?

How can people tell you if you need this particular lens if guys don't know if you need ANY lens? Maybe you are tired of your vast collection of lenses, who knows?

In OP you didn't even bother to tell if you have a camera.

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phototransformations
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Re: The Olympus 75mm, tell me why I "need" it.

LPMILLER wrote:

clengman wrote:

phototransformations wrote:

clengman wrote:

LPMILLER wrote:

I've been through numerous threads here regarding the Olympus "must have" primes, the 12, 40 and 75.  I must confess that I am a tried and true addict of zoom lenses as I find the versatility of them to be so useful and adaptable for any given situation.  I have had primes before, 50 mm macros and my first tele lens was a 135.  The only prime that I have very fond memories of, prior to shooting digital, was the Nikon AF DC-Nikkor 105mm f/2D.  This lens was absolutely gorgeous and the images it produced were of equal quality.  I utilized this lens.ii..

You didn't utilize it. You ​ it.

I'm not a big fan of "utilize" over "use," but there's nothing incorrect about "utilized" here. "Utilize" means "put to use," which is exactly what the OP did with his lens.


I don't know. Not according to the OED.

...some of you guys really need to get a life - with all this c*ap you all seem to insist upon, it's not really worth asking anything here, so, once again, I guess I won't bother anymore, this site is totally ruined by all this kind of verbal trashing and constant flaming...

You consider a little off-topic discussion of the words "utilize" vs "use" in which one forum member says it's the wrong word, and the other forum member (feeling like this is being rather picky, and also wrong) comes to your defense on word usage? I was an English major once upon a time and a writer for a long time. This incorrect "correction" of your word usage amused me, and I also felt like coming to your (and the word "utilize") defense.

Why you chose this post to complain about "trashing and flaming" is beyond me, particularly because so many people in this thread have actually been trying to be helpful (myself included, on the 45 1.8), a refreshing change from recent times. No hostility on anybody's part, as far as I can see, except, now, yours.

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pablolie Contributing Member • Posts: 656
Re: The Olympus 75mm, tell me why I "need" it.

Absolutic wrote:

you feel that way??? Hmmmm do you believe Canon's 135L, one of Canon's most popular lenses ever is also a specialist lens?  Just wondering

You make a good point, and I am surprised by the fact I do not find many situations in which to use it. It is such a good lens that, to learn to better use it, I have just left it on for now.

I truly think the minimum distance of .85m is a limiting issue. It means it can't be used as an ultra-sharp semi-macro lens for objects smaller than a soccer ball, basically. Oddly enough, my old Oly OM 135:2.8 seems more versatile in that respect.

I repeat: the pictures taken with is are quite awesome. But for $900 I probably expected a bit more versatility. I will keep it - but it would not top my list of "must have" m43 lenses.

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Extention tubes?

I'm guessing you wouldn't want to put a closeup filter on the front to degrade those excelent optics, but maybe add the Kenko extention tube set?

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revio Senior Member • Posts: 1,788
Re: The Olympus 75mm, tell me why I "need" it.
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LPMILLER wrote:

I've been through numerous threads here regarding the Olympus "must have" primes, the 12, 40 and 75.  I must confess that I am a tried and true addict of zoom lenses as I find the versatility of them to be so useful and adaptable for any given situation.  I have had primes before, 50 mm macros and my first tele lens was a 135.  The only prime that I have very fond memories of, prior to shooting digital, was the Nikon AF DC-Nikkor 105mm f/2D.  This lens was absolutely gorgeous and the images it produced were of equal quality.  I utilized this lens for a lot of natural light shooting, portraits and weddings, and even landscapes, it was actually a pretty versatile lens.

I don't actually shoot a lot of ultra wide stuff, and, if I wish to use it, have the four thirds 14-35 f2 SWD at my disposal, so the 12mm doesn't have any siren call for me.  But I keep coming back to the other two after hearing so many glowing reports here and on other forums.  I'd like to hear some feedback from anyone on here who's had experience with the 75, and yes, the 45 as well, but I'm leaning in the 75 direction. Tell me why I "need" this lens.

cheers,

Lorne Miller

If you actually need/want the angle of view the 75mm produces: "GET IT!"

It is extremely sharp!

It offers fast auto focusing, except for in bad light.

(Still it focuses accurately down to very low light, although it gets slower then)

AF-speed can be slower woth older m4/3 bodies; from the PEN PM1/PL2/PL3/P3 and newer models, AF is very fast, practically the same as, or very close to, AF with the OM-D E-M5.

Perfectly balanced on the OM-D, same on other m4/3 bodies if you hold it the correct way. No, I will not say it´s "front heavy", because WHOEVER holds a camera of this type as if it was a compact?

Left hand around lens, right hand holding the camera: Voliá, the combo feels very solid, with grip or without and  I do use it with pleasure in both ways (I have the original Olympus grip for my OM-D)

Very ckean colours and contrast too.

Sharpness was mentioned; it is really sharp right across the frame and loses only a few "percent" sharpness wide open, corner to corner.

Of course it´s also simply gourgeously beautiful, one of the best desined lenses I´ve seen...for what it matters.

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Dan Clark Senior Member • Posts: 2,703
Why 75mm?
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OK, so the lens has awesome quality.  So what?  Why 75mm? For what is it useful?

75mm is effectively 150mm.  It's too long for a portrait lens and too short for a tele lens.  Every instance where that focal length would be useful, I would see a zoom as a much better option for better framing.  While a zoom may not be as sharp, if you have to crop in post to get good framing, you lose that advantage.

I don't get it.  Why 75mm fixed?

Dan

Gravi
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guess you don't need it
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If we need to tell you why, you don't need it

You've probably read it has very good IQ and can produce great shallow DoF images.

But you've also read it is a 75mm FoV

So. Does the 75mm FoV suit you? If so, this lens is a good option. But first things first, and that is: does it suit you?!?

You could analyse the images already taken by you over the years. What focal lengths do you use a lot, and give you good shots, keepers, favourites? Then start looking if primes in those focal lengths might give you more than the zoom lenses that are available.

I found out I use 25mm FoV for my children a lot. Now they are getting a bit older, 45mm becomes nice to use as well. I also happen to shoot a lot above 100mm (about 150mm mostly). So for me, the 75mm is an 'inbetween' focal length I usually don't care for.

I'd advise you to do your own analysis, it is refreshing! There are tools available as well that do the statistics for you. Do a google search.

Good luck!

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Re: If only someone would debate the relative merits of primes vs zooms.

what is to be debated?  both are tools that have uses.  I have both and I use both, picking the right one based on circumstance, mood and objective.  nothing could be more tedious than a string in which some said one is better and others said the other is better.  unless and until everyone shoots the same subject matter in exactly the same style under the same conditions, it would be like arguing that one flavor of ice cream is universally better than another.

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