Panasonic can put focus peaking, only using firmware. (At least on the GH3, G5, GF5.)

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Panasonic can put focus peaking, only using firmware. (At least on the GH3, G5, GF5.)
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  •  From the interview at Imaging Resource with five Panasonic Lumix staff persons, they can implement focus peaking and more, only using firmware. 
  • Here is the text saying that from the good interview. 
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Re: Here the full interview I already posted on another thread.
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  • And here the full interview I already posted on another thread. 
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Re: That will be great.
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I read it on your thread about the interview, I liked much, this will be great, hope they really launch a firmware to do this.

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Re: Panasonic can put focus peaking, only using firmware. (At least on the GH3, G5, GF5.)
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Sony added it to the NEX 3 and NEX 5 by a firmware update. That was 10 months ago. Unless patent issues are involved (although Ricoh has that too), there's no reason why Panasonic and Olympus cannot add this trivial feature that every software engineer can implement. Firmware updates in u4/3 leave a lot to be desired.

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Aleo Veuliah
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Re: Panasonic can put focus peaking, only using firmware. (At least on the GH3, G5, GF5.)
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assaft wrote:

Sony added it to the NEX 3 and NEX 5 by a firmware update. That was 10 months ago. Unless patent issues are involved (although Ricoh has that too), there's no reason why Panasonic and Olympus cannot add this trivial feature that every software engineer can implement. Firmware updates in u4/3 leave a lot to be desired.


I though that Sony already have it on those cameras. That is good. Hope that on Micro 4/3 they do the same and soon. Panasonic Lumix people saying that on the interview is a good signal, maybe they will do it quickly, they know that 83% would like that feature.

Thank you for the information.


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Re: Panasonic can put focus peaking, only using firmware. (At least on the GH3, G5, GF5.)
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Panasonic: At this moment we don't have focus peaking, but 80% or 90% of users are asking for it. If we can successfully negotiate with the engineers, it will be possible.

Any easy feature requested by 80-90% of users should be non-negotiable! I've worked with lots of companies where the engineers regarded the marketers as idiots, but maybe at Panasonic it's the other way 'round.

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Re: Panasonic can put focus peaking, only using firmware. (At least on the GH3, G5, GF5.)

TomFid wrote:

Panasonic: At this moment we don't have focus peaking, but 80% or 90% of users are asking for it. If we can successfully negotiate with the engineers, it will be possible.

Any easy feature requested by 80-90% of users should be non-negotiable! I've worked with lots of companies where the engineers regarded the marketers as idiots, but maybe at Panasonic it's the other way 'round.

I agree.

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Sean Nelson
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Re: Panasonic can put focus peaking, only using firmware. (At least on the GH3, G5, GF5.)

assaft wrote:

Unless patent issues are involved...

I find it hard to believe that there are any patent issues when Panasonic's video cameras have focus peaking.

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Re: Panasonic can put focus peaking, only using firmware. (At least on the GH3, G5, GF5.)

Sean Nelson wrote:

assaft wrote:

Unless patent issues are involved...

I find it hard to believe that there are any patent issues when Panasonic's video cameras have focus peaking.

...If Apple hasn't use it - yet - on some of its gear...

Sorry, couldn't resist!

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Re: Panasonic can put focus peaking, only using firmware. (At least on the GH3, G5, GF5.)
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The interview you are referencing was strictly about the GH3. As far as I know, it does not apply to any other models. I think it will happen, in time.

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Re: Panasonic can put focus peaking, only using firmware. (At least on the GH3, G5, GF5.)

Wasabi Bob wrote:

The interview you are referencing was strictly about the GH3. As far as I know, it does not apply to any other models. I think it will happen, in time.

True, but I though that the last cameras have a similar processing engine that allows that. I hope they really made it.

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Mike Fewster Veteran Member • Posts: 5,565
Nex did it with a software upgrade

The original Nex 5 didn't have focus peaking. It was added when a firmware upgrade was made  available for the 5. It is not a new technology and has been used widely in other formats. I just can't see why every Oly and Pamasonic MILC can't have it.

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Aleo Veuliah
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Re: Nex did it with a software upgrade

Mike Fewster wrote:

The original Nex 5 didn't have focus peaking. It was added when a firmware upgrade was made  available for the 5. It is not a new technology and has been used widely in other formats. I just can't see why every Oly and Pamasonic MILC can't have it.

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They will have soon, I believe in that after reading the interview.

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amtberg Veteran Member • Posts: 5,557
Firmware 0.5 suggests....

Maybe.  A couple sources reported that there was a new menu in the .5 firmware version that might suggest the addition of peaking.  Hardly definitive, but another 2 cents.

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Re: Nex did it with a software upgrade

Aleo Veuliah wrote:

Mike Fewster wrote:

The original Nex 5 didn't have focus peaking. It was added when a firmware upgrade was made  available for the 5. It is not a new technology and has been used widely in other formats. I just can't see why every Oly and Pamasonic MILC can't have it.

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They will have soon, I believe in that after reading the interview.

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I think you are right. It was one of the two features lacking that decided me on the Nex 5n and I'm still not sure that I made the right choice. That would have probably swung it.

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Re: Firmware 0.5 suggests....
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amtberg wrote:

Maybe.  A couple sources reported that there was a new menu in the .5 firmware version that might suggest the addition of peaking.  Hardly definitive, but another 2 cents.

Maybe that means, that in 1.0 it will have that feature.

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Re: Firmware 0.5 suggests....

amtberg wrote:

Maybe.  A couple sources reported that there was a new menu in the .5 firmware version that might suggest the addition of peaking.  Hardly definitive, but another 2 cents.

Where you got that information ?

Hope they put it on version 1.0.

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Re: Panasonic can put focus peaking, only using firmware. (At least on the GH3, G5, GF5.)

Aleo Veuliah wrote:

I was under the understanding that over/underexposure warnings in LIVEview ("blinkies") were an Olympus patent . . . is that wrong?

(http://www.pekkapotka.com/journal/2012/10/2/discussion-with-mr-terada.html)

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tjuster1 wrote:

I was under the understanding that over/underexposure warnings in LIVEview ("blinkies") were an Olympus patent . . . is that wrong?

(http://www.pekkapotka.com/journal/2012/10/2/discussion-with-mr-terada.html)

Both my Panasonic video camera and my Pentax DSLR have overexposure zebra stripes / blinking pixels, so it doesn't seem as though there's any patent-related reason why the GH3 couldn't have them.

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Re: Firmware 0.5 suggests....

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amtberg wrote:

Maybe.  A couple sources reported that there was a new menu in the .5 firmware version that might suggest the addition of peaking.  Hardly definitive, but another 2 cents.

Where you got that information ?

Hope they put it on version 1.0.

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It's mentioned in the EOSHD update: http://www.eoshd.com/content/9109/for-the-curious-panasonic-gh3-updated-hardware-and-firmware-report

Specifically, he said:

"I noticed a dummy menu was now present containing around 3 or 4 manual focus assists. As the text on these menu options simply stated ‘dummy’ I have no idea exactly what Panasonic have in mind for these – but it raises the possibility that peaking might be one of them? I hope so."

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