Rx100 and Rx1 Arn't really P&S camera are they????

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Dutchpepper
Dutchpepper Senior Member • Posts: 1,500
Rx100 and Rx1 Arn't really P&S camera are they????

The thing is... these new cameras the RX1 and RX100 are not really P&S are they? They are beyond that. People aren't going to buy these to whip out at Grannies Birthday Party are they! OK some might

But my point is we need to come up with another name for these cameras something like
Pocket Pros or
Pro Shooters
P Shooter for short what do you think?Any ideas?
DP
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EinsteinsGhost
EinsteinsGhost Forum Pro • Posts: 11,977
Re: Rx100 and Rx1 Arn't really P&S camera are they????

No, they are not. But it is people who don’t understand where the term P&S applies, are the ones who would be calling either of these cameras that.

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bab4 Regular Member • Posts: 450
Re: Rx100 and Rx1 Arn't really P&S camera are they????

I always thought the only cameras that couldn't be called point and shoots were ones that don't have an auto mode. If it has an auto mode anyone can just point at something and press the shutter. So yes I think these cameras can be called point and shoots. The other term is compact camera... The RX100 for sure is a compact... but the RX1.. gets a little fuzzy there.

Jogger
Jogger Veteran Member • Posts: 8,441
Re: Rx100 and Rx1 Arn't really P&S camera are they????

I use my D700 as a point and shoot camera most of the time.. sometimes, im more serious and get into teh settings and such.

Dutchpepper wrote:

The thing is... these new cameras the RX1 and RX100 are not really P&S are they? They are beyond that. People aren't going to buy these to whip out at Grannies Birthday Party are they! OK some might

But my point is we need to come up with another name for these cameras something like
Pocket Pros or
Pro Shooters
P Shooter for short what do you think?Any ideas?
DP
http://www.flickr.com/photos/loubella/

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Evadremlu
Evadremlu Regular Member • Posts: 136
Re: Rx100 and Rx1 Arn't really P&S camera are they????

The RX1 is a lens with a fixed camera not a camera with a fixed lens.

Eventually all new lens with come with a built-in camera. Viewfinder will by done by a wireless display like a smartphone. Or by viewfinder headsets.

Something like the RED movie camera systems.

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EinsteinsGhost
EinsteinsGhost Forum Pro • Posts: 11,977
Re: Rx100 and Rx1 Arn't really P&S camera are they????

bab4 wrote:

I always thought the only cameras that couldn't be called point and shoots were ones that don't have an auto mode. If it has an auto mode anyone can just point at something and press the shutter. So yes I think these cameras can be called point and shoots. The other term is compact camera... The RX100 for sure is a compact... but the RX1.. gets a little fuzzy there.

Yep. These debates on nomenclatures remind me of automotive debates on manual transmission versus automatic versus semi-automatic. Then, "compact car" to generally imply an economy car, and yet expensive sports cars would also fit the bill.

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pricklypear Regular Member • Posts: 113
What's more important than family pictures?

This line of thinking always cracks me up. Amateur enthusiasts proclaiming they use certain equipment for their "serious" work, but would reserve the p&s camera for "snapshots" of family or friends. I suppose it comes down to interests and priorities, but I would be inclined to use my best equipment for granny's birthday party...much more so than I would for the umpteenth picture of the London Eye or Eiffel Tower.

The RX1 is exciting because it brings first-rate IQ and performance to granny's party, but in a much smaller form factor that doesn't get in the way of good times (literally and figuratively).

Dutchpepper wrote:

The thing is... these new cameras the RX1 and RX100 are not really P&S are they? They are beyond that. People aren't going to buy these to whip out at Grannies Birthday Party are they! OK some might

But my point is we need to come up with another name for these cameras something like
Pocket Pros or
Pro Shooters
P Shooter for short what do you think?Any ideas?
DP
http://www.flickr.com/photos/loubella/

tkbslc Forum Pro • Posts: 10,683
Re: Rx100 and Rx1 Arn't really P&S camera are they????

Some elitist snobs like to use PnS like it is a derogatory term. It doesn't really matter what it is called, the pictures will speak for themselves.

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snapshot09 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,512
#3 Seller on Amazon.com

Way to go Sony!!!!

RX1 is already the 3rd best selling P&S camera.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DSC-RX1-Cybershot-Full-frame-Digital/dp/B0097CXFCC

pricklypear wrote:

This line of thinking always cracks me up. Amateur enthusiasts proclaiming they use certain equipment for their "serious" work, but would reserve the p&s camera for "snapshots" of family or friends. I suppose it comes down to interests and priorities, but I would be inclined to use my best equipment for granny's birthday party...much more so than I would for the umpteenth picture of the London Eye or Eiffel Tower.

The RX1 is exciting because it brings first-rate IQ and performance to granny's party, but in a much smaller form factor that doesn't get in the way of good times (literally and figuratively).

Dutchpepper wrote:

The thing is... these new cameras the RX1 and RX100 are not really P&S are they? They are beyond that. People aren't going to buy these to whip out at Grannies Birthday Party are they! OK some might

But my point is we need to come up with another name for these cameras something like
Pocket Pros or
Pro Shooters
P Shooter for short what do you think?Any ideas?
DP
http://www.flickr.com/photos/loubella/

EinsteinsGhost
EinsteinsGhost Forum Pro • Posts: 11,977
Re: #3 Seller on Amazon.com

snapshot09 wrote:

Way to go Sony!!!!

RX1 is already the 3rd best selling P&S camera.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DSC-RX1-Cybershot-Full-frame-Digital/dp/B0097CXFCC

That’s because it has been discounted by $1.99.

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GeraldW Veteran Member • Posts: 7,011
Re: Rx100 and Rx1 Arn't really P&S camera are they????

I've had the same thoughts. My suggestion is PFLC for Prosumer Fixed lens Camera. P could also stand for Premium) For the more plebian models simply FLC. It works nicely against ILC.

If you recall, "Prosumer" was a term used back in 2003 and 2004 when the Canon Pro 1, Nikon 8700 and 8800, Olympus 7070 and 8080, Minolta A2, and the Sony 717 and 828 came out. It since has gone out of use; but fits perfectly here.
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Jerry

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RX100 Junior Member • Posts: 43
Re: Rx100 and Rx1 Arn't really P&S camera are they????

I remember when advanced fixed lens cameras were called Prosumer cameras.

Joel Stern
Joel Stern Forum Pro • Posts: 10,909
these are enthusiasts cameras

like the Ricoh GRD...and GX used to be, and the LX7, etc

snapshot09 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,512
Re: #2 Seller on Amazon.com

Must be working cause it is now up to #2.

EinsteinsGhost wrote:

snapshot09 wrote:

Way to go Sony!!!!

RX1 is already the 3rd best selling P&S camera.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DSC-RX1-Cybershot-Full-frame-Digital/dp/B0097CXFCC

That’s because it has been discounted by $1.99.

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