Another New X-Pro 1 Owner- Day 1

Started Sep 12, 2012 | Discussions
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Another New X-Pro 1 Owner- Day 1

Well, after bouncing around a little I picked up an X-Pro 1 and 35mm lens today. You might ask why when the x-e1 is on the way (which I do want). Well, its quite simple.

I bought a Nex-7 last month and after the newness wore off I realized I truly wasn't happy with the high ISO performance. I compared it with the Fuji but kept telling myself I was happy because from what i read the Xpro AF sucks.

Well...I noticed that while Nex-7 focus was fast, it was anything but accurate. Even when you get a lock on an eye, 8/10 it will be just a hair off, Extremely frustrating when you think you nailed a shot on the lcd screen, just to open it up on the pc screen and see its off enough to bother me. So I had to AF and then slightly adjust using DMF every single time before a shot to get critical focus. Not acceptable when I shelled out $1300. If anything, I'd like it to atleast be accurate.

All the while a wedding photog friend was talking up the Fuji something serious to me, dispelling some myths too. I was attracted by the x-e1 small size, cheaper price, and even built in flash (similar to nex-7 which can be held back and bounced off ceiling for some great results), not to mention the quality of Fuji's glass and commitment to enthusiasts and not the app centric, wifi built-in, consumer direction the Nex line has slowly been moving. So it all sounded good to get a refund and wait for x-e1, but unfortunately I was 2 weeks past the return period.

Fortunately I talked the manager into letting me do an exchange as he wasn't going for a refund ( I dont blame him, I spent an extra $1000 on this kit, more money for them). So far I think the AF is slower, and sometimes locks on background, but when it locks, it locks (as long as I remember to be conscious of macro switch when needed). Which is exactly what I want. ISO performance is breath taking (been shooting on auto ISO 3200, and havent seen any noticeable noise on my computer screen yet, even in low light). Feels more balanced than the NEX-7 to me too and seems to make more sense, ergonomically, to me as well. When Im shooting and fell I need to adjust something (SS, aperture, ISO) I just do it, without having to think about or adjust the mode Im in before making adjustments. Its a weird feeling, like a manual mode thats semi automatic or something. Just takes the guesswork out for me while at the same time, allowing me to experiment. The ultimate paradox. I just have to get faster at adjusting AF points while looking through viewfinder (I find the multi point AF to be too slow, we'll see what the FW update does)

And so far when I compare good images from both, the X-pro's are just that much better, making them great IMO. This is really early in the game, but I feel like Ive found the one-or at least the right system, for me. Happy right now, but my pocket feels the sting lol. Here are a few shots I took of my son at the park. Shot in jpeg, PP in Lightroom (plan to figure out an appropriate RAW workflow later)

Fujifilm X-E1 Sony Alpha NEX-7
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57even Forum Pro • Posts: 11,320
Re: Another New X-Pro 1 Owner- Day 1

Congratulations, welcome to Fuji land and great first photos!

Sept 18th will hopefully make you even happier

I'm sure the forum trolls will tell you you cannot possibly be correct, and that everything on the NEX7 is better, but most of them own neither. Hence, it's great to find someone who voted very decidedly with their wallet.

Many of us appreciate the pros and can live with the cons for the sake of great IQ and controls. It's a great camera that is just about to get quite a bit better.

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Fujifilm X-Pro2
OP (unknown member) Regular Member • Posts: 362
Re: Another New X-Pro 1 Owner- Day 1

57even wrote:

Congratulations, welcome to Fuji land and great first photos!

Sept 18th will hopefully make you even happier

I'm sure the forum trolls will tell you you cannot possibly be correct, and that everything on the NEX7 is better, but most of them own neither. Hence, it's great to find someone who voted very decidedly with their wallet.

Many of us appreciate the pros and can live with the cons for the sake of great IQ and controls. It's a great camera that is just about to get quite a bit better.

Thanks!

Something Ive noticed which seems like a big deal for me personally is the balance of the Nex-7/ Because the lens is far left with the grip on the right, it never really felt secure in my hands, especially with heavy adapted 50mm canon lens. In theory the grip should make it ok. However, Im 6'4, so my hands are pretty big and the grip on the 7 just wasn't beefy enough to get a confident balance for me. The Xpro has a tiny grip by default but the beefy body makes it easier to handle for me, just more to hold on to.

More than anything, this experience has taught me to truly try out each camera for yourself. An online 1 vs 1 review shouldn't be the only thing you go off of (which is what I didi) because theres so much more than that. Next time I will rent cameras Im interested in, can get pricey but its definitely worth it if your local store doesn't have the stock or a proper return policy.

One thing I will miss from the Nex is the crop-ability. That 24 mp sensor allowed you to make some extreme crops that would still allow a crisp print. I would almost cut photos is half and still have Xpro size images, thats nuts. But the tradeoff is the noise. Essentially for my taste once things hit 1600 ISO I wasn't pleased. Thats a pretty low ceiling considering Im in a lot of low light

Sorry for the long response, just spilling my thoughts for anybody out there who is weighing the same options I was

57even Forum Pro • Posts: 11,320
Re: Another New X-Pro 1 Owner- Day 1

If you have large hands you will find the Xpro1 accessory grip is absolutely perfect. Not too expensive either.

Agree about what you said, I never buy anything I haven't been allowed to check out personally for an hour or so at least and sometimes that isn't enough to find some of the gotchas.

Have fun and don't spend too much time on this forum!

newone757 wrote:

57even wrote:

Congratulations, welcome to Fuji land and great first photos!

Sept 18th will hopefully make you even happier

I'm sure the forum trolls will tell you you cannot possibly be correct, and that everything on the NEX7 is better, but most of them own neither. Hence, it's great to find someone who voted very decidedly with their wallet.

Many of us appreciate the pros and can live with the cons for the sake of great IQ and controls. It's a great camera that is just about to get quite a bit better.

Thanks!

Something Ive noticed which seems like a big deal for me personally is the balance of the Nex-7/ Because the lens is far left with the grip on the right, it never really felt secure in my hands, especially with heavy adapted 50mm canon lens. In theory the grip should make it ok. However, Im 6'4, so my hands are pretty big and the grip on the 7 just wasn't beefy enough to get a confident balance for me. The Xpro has a tiny grip by default but the beefy body makes it easier to handle for me, just more to hold on to.

More than anything, this experience has taught me to truly try out each camera for yourself. An online 1 vs 1 review shouldn't be the only thing you go off of (which is what I didi) because theres so much more than that. Next time I will rent cameras Im interested in, can get pricey but its definitely worth it if your local store doesn't have the stock or a proper return policy.

One thing I will miss from the Nex is the crop-ability. That 24 mp sensor allowed you to make some extreme crops that would still allow a crisp print. I would almost cut photos is half and still have Xpro size images, thats nuts. But the tradeoff is the noise. Essentially for my taste once things hit 1600 ISO I wasn't pleased. Thats a pretty low ceiling considering Im in a lot of low light

Sorry for the long response, just spilling my thoughts for anybody out there who is weighing the same options I was

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Fujifilm X-Pro2
jimmyca1219 Regular Member • Posts: 205
Re: Another New X-Pro 1 Owner- Day 1

congrats! I'm planing on picking up an xpro 1 too. The xe1 sound like a more rational option for me, but I still want an xpro 1.

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Fujifilm FinePix X100 Leica M8 Fujifilm X-Pro1 Carl Zeiss Biogon T* 2,8/28 ZM Voigtlander 35mm F2.5 Color Skopar +5 more
camelot98 New Member • Posts: 24
Re: Another New X-Pro 1 Owner- Day 1

Congrats on your purchase!

Been going back and forth about the Xpro1 and XE1 myself and still haven't made a decision!

How have you found auto focus using the OVF? That's one of the main reasons i'm undecided because if its hard to focus in auto, using the OVF, i might as well get the XE1 as it will have the better EVF...

OP (unknown member) Regular Member • Posts: 362
Re: Another New X-Pro 1 Owner- Day 1

camelot98 wrote:

Congrats on your purchase!

Been going back and forth about the Xpro1 and XE1 myself and still haven't made a decision!

How have you found auto focus using the OVF? That's one of the main reasons i'm undecided because if its hard to focus in auto, using the OVF, i might as well get the XE1 as it will have the better EVF...

Its a little tricky (or maybe just different), because Ive never used a rangefinder so the parallax error is new to me. But with the framing lines and option for it to auto adjust its not bad. SOmetimes the AF point is a little off so what Ill do is compose the first shot with the back lcd then use the OVF. Seems to raise my chances getting right focus when focus distance is already set around where I want it

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