FL50r Remote Flash

Started Sep 7, 2012 | Discussions
Malcolm Sales Forum Member • Posts: 96
FL50r Remote Flash

Hi,

Is anyone using the FL50r successfully as a remote flash? Particularly outdoors.

I've come to Olympus (OM-D E-M5) from Nikon D300 & D700 with 2x SB900's & 1x SB800.

I've mastered the different menu system and feel that it's great and really easy to change settings.

However when I working outdoors I find I'm getting a significant number of miss fires where the flash fires 5 sec AFTER the shutter. Annoyingly the EXIF data shows the flash has fired! This presumably refers to the little "pop-up" flash on the hot shoe.

The system is proving un-reliable - particularly when compared to Nikon's CLS system.

Does anybody have any suggestions please?
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luigibenet Regular Member • Posts: 302
Re: FL50r Remote Flash

Check page 97 of the M5 Manual and make sure that your 'Communication light level' is set to HIGH.

Let us know if that helps.....

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jtan163 Senior Member • Posts: 2,265
Re: FL50r Remote Flash

Malcolm Sales wrote:

Hi,

Is anyone using the FL50r successfully as a remote flash? Particularly outdoors.

I've come to Olympus (OM-D E-M5) from Nikon D300 & D700 with 2x SB900's & 1x SB800.

I've mastered the different menu system and feel that it's great and really easy to change settings.

However when I working outdoors I find I'm getting a significant number of miss fires where the flash fires 5 sec AFTER the shutter. Annoyingly the EXIF data shows the flash has fired! This presumably refers to the little "pop-up" flash on the hot shoe.

The system is proving un-reliable - particularly when compared to Nikon's CLS system.

Does anybody have any suggestions please?

It won't be TTL but you can always use your Nikon flash in SU4 (dumb optical slave) mode.
At least you can the SB900s - not sure about the SB800.

I only have 1 SB900, so I have not been able to try controlling another SB900 - but you may also be able to use an SB900/800 in commander mode to make manual settings changes and fire remote flashes.

As I say not sure about this because I only have one - but it defiantly works in SU4 mode using the included Oly flash as a trigger.

And if you want to try and use one of your 800/900s as a commander, you can definitely fire the SB900 from the EM5 hotshoe.

I taped all of the terminals on my camera hot shoe, except the big middle, one, but I understand that is not really necessary.

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rkeller Senior Member • Posts: 1,066
Re: FL50r Remote Flash

I have a FL-50R and 3 FL-36Rs (and a Metz 58 AF-2) that I use regularly as remote flashes in RC mode as well as slave mode with the E-M5.

In RC mode you need to make sure that the sensor window on the flash is facing directly toward the accessory hotshoe flash. And if your remote flash is placed so that it is to the side or behind your camera, you may need to re-direct the hotshoe flash using a small bounce card so as to provide a better signal to the remote flash (and as someone else stated, turn up the trigger flash level to "high"). With trickier setups, using the FL-600R flash in the hotshoe as a controller should help immensely since you will be able to swivel and tilt it as needed.
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Gregm61 Forum Pro • Posts: 15,295
Re: FL50r Remote Flash

Malcolm Sales wrote:

Hi,

Is anyone using the FL50r successfully as a remote flash? Particularly outdoors.

I've come to Olympus (OM-D E-M5) from Nikon D300 & D700 with 2x SB900's & 1x SB800.

I've mastered the different menu system and feel that it's great and really easy to change settings.

However when I working outdoors I find I'm getting a significant number of miss fires where the flash fires 5 sec AFTER the shutter. Annoyingly the EXIF data shows the flash has fired! This presumably refers to the little "pop-up" flash on the hot shoe.

The system is proving un-reliable - particularly when compared to Nikon's CLS system.

Does anybody have any suggestions please?

I've been experiencing the same thing with my E-M5, even using the HIGH option mentioned earlier.

My solution....Cactus V5 radio slaves. I received mine last night, tried tham out and they work GREAT, and EVERY TIME, at any distance and do not have to be line-of-sight. Perfect.

The one negative is.....manual mode. You could use non-TTL auto, but getting it right manually is fine and works consistently.

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OP Malcolm Sales Forum Member • Posts: 96
Re: FL50r Remote Flash

Hi All,

Many thanks for the advice.
I've set the signal to Hi and that's seems to have resolved my problem.

I'm not sure if battery drain is a separate issue, I'm using 2500 & 2900 re-chargeable batteries that haven't given problems in my Nikon SB's.

Uning an SB as a Commander on the OM-D is something I'd not even condidered I'll give it a go and see what happens.

Once again many thanks.

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