I am sorry I hate the Nikon P7700

Started Aug 22, 2012 | Discussions
Spiridakis Michael
Spiridakis Michael Senior Member • Posts: 2,766
I am sorry I hate the Nikon P7700

I didn't had the chance to get a Nikon P7100 although it was my favorite option... instead I got an OLY EPL2... but thats another story....

I did had the chance to advice a friend that finally got a Nikon P7100 and the other day I had the chance to play a little with it...

Lovely camera, smooth operated with a nice quiet and smooth lens made for movies... perfect weight, nicely made and for sure not a brick like the G12...

Nice surprise the very very bright OVF a little small but still very bright and extremely useful...

Capable of attaching wide angle converter...

And finally they decided to KILL this nice camera... I hate the new one... I am sorry.... but I just hate all the concept... of this camera...
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Barry Fitzgerald Forum Pro • Posts: 29,888
Re: I am sorry I hate the Nikon P7700

Hate is a big word but yes it looks like a disaster for many users who want OVF's

I just looked at the news/preview and shook my head..that's not a good sign at all

Danel Senior Member • Posts: 2,905
Look on the bright side

Spiridakis Michael wrote:

I didn't had the chance to get a Nikon P7100 although it was my favorite option... instead I got an OLY EPL2... but thats another story....

I did had the chance to advice a friend that finally got a Nikon P7100 and the other day I had the chance to play a little with it...

Lovely camera, smooth operated with a nice quiet and smooth lens made for movies... perfect weight, nicely made and for sure not a brick like the G12...

Nice surprise the very very bright OVF a little small but still very bright and extremely useful...

Capable of attaching wide angle converter...

And finally they decided to KILL this nice camera... I hate the new one... I am sorry.... but I just hate all the concept... of this camera...

The "lovely" P7100 will soon be dirt cheap. You will probably be able to pick one up for around $250 a few months after of the introduction of the P7700.

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MMS Photo
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Re: I am sorry I hate the Nikon P7700

You write the word hate 4 times...for a camera you have never seen in person and never held or used? Hate? Really?

Just sayin'
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talmy
talmy Veteran Member • Posts: 3,320
Re: I am sorry I hate the Nikon P7700

In a market full of cameras, there is no reason to waste any time hating a particular model. And since P7000s are still available, I'd expect P7100s will be around for at least a year if you really want one. And unlike DSLRs where you are basically stuck with a particular system, it's easy to freely switch brands with compacts. No reason to be brand loyal I can see.

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SingaporeNoob New Member • Posts: 6
Re: I am sorry I hate the Nikon P7700

While I am more than a little disappointed in this new camera, I more consider it something different than what I was hoping for than have strong feelings about it.

I feel similar about the G1X, which is bigger and more expensive for what I'm looking for in my next camera.

If the 7100 had the fully articulating screen like the G12 it would be an easy choice. If the G12 had 7x zoom and wasn't 2 years old it would be an easy choice.

If I hadn't read so much about lens dust with the X10 it would be an easy choice.

I tend to waver on these things before a purchase, so that I at least know what I'm getting into.

At this point it's looking more like I'll be going with the G12.

Karl R. Josker
Karl R. Josker Contributing Member • Posts: 944
Re: I am sorry I hate the Nikon P7700

If a camera doesn't have an OVF, but I otherwise like it, I don't hesitate to put an aftermarket OVF on it, when needed. My favorite is the Sigma VF-11, although my collection includes several from the old Nikon film rangefinders. Single focal lengths, and variofocals. You don't need to go without one.

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Ben Herrmann
Ben Herrmann Forum Pro • Posts: 19,349
It's a case of the glass half full or half empty.....

It's always interesting to see how one person may hate a situation - while another may find it to be quite alright. And such is the case with cameras.

I personally am looking forward to seeing this P7700 (I have the P7100) - and I never use the OVF because I personally find them useless. That's because I like to control (and see) where my AF point is going to be - which you cannot do with these generic OVF's on enthusiast models.

So you may hate it....but many will like it. And you can't argue that scenario because we all have opinions.

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brianj Forum Pro • Posts: 14,657
Re: I am sorry I hate the Nikon P7700

I would like the viewfinder to be in my glasses so that a frame appears around the actual scene I am looking at which represents the cropped portion that will be photographed. This simple LCD device could be connected to the camera by wire or Wi-Fi.

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Lifer
Lifer Senior Member • Posts: 1,810
Re: I am sorry I hate the Nikon P7700

So much BS about a camera that no one has handled or tested. The negative comments particularly amaze and amuse me at the same time. Guess is just my age showing or its just that I've seen so much of this tripe in my 73 years.
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peter42y Senior Member • Posts: 2,201
Re: I am sorry I hate the Nikon P7700

MMS Photo wrote:

You write the word hate 4 times...for a camera you have never seen in person and never held or used? Hate? Really?

Just sayin'
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ebsilon Contributing Member • Posts: 628
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brianj wrote:

I would like the viewfinder to be in my glasses so that a frame appears around the actual scene I am looking at which represents the cropped portion that will be photographed. This simple LCD device could be connected to the camera by wire or Wi-Fi.

It's a good idea - actually Nikon presented something very similar last year. MAybe it was prioduced fior millitary or medical market. I tried to google it, but didn't find the link now.

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Patco Forum Pro • Posts: 13,570
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talmy wrote:

And unlike DSLRs where you are basically stuck with a particular system, it's easy to freely switch brands with compacts. No reason to be brand loyal I can see.

Well... already owning a couple of Nikon dedicated flash units would be a reason.

It was one of the reasons I bought a P6000 (not to mention a dirt cheap price ;-)).

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donaldsc Veteran Member • Posts: 3,054
So Do Not Buy It

Nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to buy something that you do not like. Perhaps you can make a list of the current cameras that you do love so that we can all pile up on you.

Personally I agree that all cameras should have an OVF but I would not use the word "hate" to describe ones that do not have them. As long as I can find ones that do have OVF (optical or electronic), I will just vote w my dollars.

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ISO_800 Regular Member • Posts: 288
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MMS Photo wrote:

You write the word hate 4 times...for a camera you have never seen in person and never held or used? Hate? Really?

Just sayin'
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I hate that phrase!!!

michelobultra Forum Member • Posts: 78
For me...

picture quality is #1. I couldn't care less if the camera used a drinking straw to take pictures as long as the IQ is there.

Unfortunately, like many cameras. The P7100 cannot take people pictures. Yes, landscapes, street photography, buildings, etc. are all georgous! And for that, this camera is amazing. But when it came to using this camera for portraits, regardless of which mode you chose, faces are very soft. No detail, no sharpness. It just cannot take people pictures.

No doubt, all the examples people post show beautiful outdoor pics, mainly scenery. But rarely any people or portraits pics. I'd like to see them, and not post processed or sharpness bumped up to the max but just out of the camera.

I returned my 7100 because, while I loved the overall IQ, people pictures sucked. I am hoping that with the new CMOS sensor, and faster lens, that the P7700 people pics will be much improved.

If not, it's a Fuji X100 for me. My wife has a Fuji X10 and her people pics are always crystal clear and tack sharp. So, we'll have to see how the 7700 will do.

crsantin Contributing Member • Posts: 562
Re: For me...

You know, I was beginning to wonder if it was my imagination. I have the identical experience with the camera. I took it on a trip to Montreal and I got some wonderful photos with it, really top quality that rivaled my DSLR results...but portraits or photos with people in them are very disappointing. Faces just don't look right with this camera. Otherwise, seriously, it would probably be the only digital camera I would shoot with (I still shoot a lot of film). It really delivers with landscapes and city shots etc, so it's an easy choice for that.

I have no interest in the P770. I am very interested in one of the Fuji's also, perhaps even the new one.

michelobultra wrote:

picture quality is #1. I couldn't care less if the camera used a drinking straw to take pictures as long as the IQ is there.

Unfortunately, like many cameras. The P7100 cannot take people pictures. Yes, landscapes, street photography, buildings, etc. are all georgous! And for that, this camera is amazing. But when it came to using this camera for portraits, regardless of which mode you chose, faces are very soft. No detail, no sharpness. It just cannot take people pictures.

No doubt, all the examples people post show beautiful outdoor pics, mainly scenery. But rarely any people or portraits pics. I'd like to see them, and not post processed or sharpness bumped up to the max but just out of the camera.

I returned my 7100 because, while I loved the overall IQ, people pictures sucked. I am hoping that with the new CMOS sensor, and faster lens, that the P7700 people pics will be much improved.

If not, it's a Fuji X100 for me. My wife has a Fuji X10 and her people pics are always crystal clear and tack sharp. So, we'll have to see how the 7700 will do.

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Re: For me...

Which 'new' Fuji?

André BARELIER
André BARELIER Veteran Member • Posts: 8,728
Re: For me...

I don't see what you think is wrong with portraits when using the P7100.
Of course, it's hard to get a shallow DOF, given the size of the sensor.
But I'm quite pleased with the following…

Not bad for a compact, IMHO…

crsantin wrote:

You know, I was beginning to wonder if it was my imagination. I have the identical experience with the camera. I took it on a trip to Montreal and I got some wonderful photos with it, really top quality that rivaled my DSLR results...but portraits or photos with people in them are very disappointing. Faces just don't look right with this camera. Otherwise, seriously, it would probably be the only digital camera I would shoot with (I still shoot a lot of film). It really delivers with landscapes and city shots etc, so it's an easy choice for that.

I have no interest in the P770. I am very interested in one of the Fuji's also, perhaps even the new one.

michelobultra wrote:

picture quality is #1. I couldn't care less if the camera used a drinking straw to take pictures as long as the IQ is there.

Unfortunately, like many cameras. The P7100 cannot take people pictures. Yes, landscapes, street photography, buildings, etc. are all georgous! And for that, this camera is amazing. But when it came to using this camera for portraits, regardless of which mode you chose, faces are very soft. No detail, no sharpness. It just cannot take people pictures.

No doubt, all the examples people post show beautiful outdoor pics, mainly scenery. But rarely any people or portraits pics. I'd like to see them, and not post processed or sharpness bumped up to the max but just out of the camera.

I returned my 7100 because, while I loved the overall IQ, people pictures sucked. I am hoping that with the new CMOS sensor, and faster lens, that the P7700 people pics will be much improved.

If not, it's a Fuji X100 for me. My wife has a Fuji X10 and her people pics are always crystal clear and tack sharp. So, we'll have to see how the 7700 will do.

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Re: I am sorry I hate the Nikon P7700

ISO_800 wrote:

MMS Photo wrote:

You write the word hate 4 times...for a camera you have never seen in person and never held or used? Hate? Really?

Just sayin'
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"just sayin'"

I hate that phrase!!!

Sorry to push your hate button.

(wait for it...)

My bad!
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