My Olympic photos (NSFW)

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Karaya Senior Member • Posts: 2,042
My Olympic photos (NSFW)

I did a model shoot this weekend with a classic Olympian theme. This was only my second model shoot, but I think it went very well. I did make a couple of amateurish slip ups - like taking incidental light readings with a meter and then proceeding to shoot with the camera in aperture priority mode against a white back drop, Duuuh!

Anyways my model was both beautiful and a pleasure to work with, the weather cooperated with the outdoor shots and I had no equipment problems, so all in all, a really great shoot!

I used my E-5 with a rented 35-100 f2 for all the indoor shots as well as my E-3 with the Pana-Leica 25 for the outdoor shots. Here are some of my favorites from the shoot. please feel free to comment:

Date/Time 19-Aug-2012 14:19:04
Make Olympus
Model E-5
Flash Used No
Focal Length 47 mm
Exposure Time 1/323 sec
Aperture f/2.8
ISO Equivalent 200

Color-outdoor photos in next post.

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OP Karaya Senior Member • Posts: 2,042
Color-Outdoor shots

Taken with E-3 and 25mm in my cow pasture:

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Re: Now if only they'd give the NSFW warning on Leica Forum

It's a useful thing so I know to wait until I get home before opening the links. Right, I'm off for a cold shower.

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jfinite Veteran Member • Posts: 8,100
My take...

Really nice images, but I think nudes need to be linked.
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CollBaxter
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Re: Color-Outdoor shots

These are good. I like the conversion in the bw. The javelin was a bit cropped off. Otherwise very nice. I like the skin tones and colours in the coloured ones. The are also very nice.

P.S. Can I be a cow in your cow pasture next time you do a model shoot. Actually I mean a bull.
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OP Karaya Senior Member • Posts: 2,042
Re: Color-Outdoor shots

Thanks Collin. I ended up spending very little time on the B&W conversions. Just a neutral conversion and a yellow filter applied in Silver Efex. The chopped off javelin was the result of running out of room in my ersatz basement studio!

Sorry, but no spectators allowed on the set during a shoot. Only people working on the shoot. Of course if you were to volunteer to spray mosquitos in my pasture and pull thistles out by hand I might be able to fit you in!

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OP Karaya Senior Member • Posts: 2,042
Re: My take...

Thanks for the compliment. Why linked? Is a NSFW warning not sufficient?

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Re: My take...

Karaya wrote:

Thanks for the compliment. Why linked? Is a NSFW warning not sufficient?

Love the outdoor ones. I agree with you since they are not 'erotic' but some people get offended easily.

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Re: Color-Outdoor shots

I especially appreciated the indoor shots, a very classical style and nicely composed.

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OP Karaya Senior Member • Posts: 2,042
Re: Color-Outdoor shots

Thank you - that is just what I was shooting for - a classical style that conveys a sense of feminine grace and strength!

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BorisK1 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,644
Re: Color-Outdoor shots

Very nice work!

In general, I like the color shots much better. Somehow, your BW shots look more static, while the color shots captured motion. Especially the javelin shot - the color version says "I'm ready to let fly", the BW - "I'm just standing there posing". I think it's the foot position that gives that impression, sorry, can't be more specific.

A couple of things I didn't quite like: In the BW bow and arrow shot, the hand holding the bow looks overextended (the elbow locked out) to the point of being uncomfortable. One thing I don't like in the color version, is the squint. She looks like she's staring straight into the sun, rather than at a target. (From what I remember, bow shooters use both eyes - a targeting squint is a firearm thing).

[edit] Almost forgot: The position of the right hand in the color bow shot is a bit off. The elbow should be pointing towards the back, in line with the arrow. The way she is standing now, she can't exert any real force on the string. In the BW shot, this is not as much of a problem, because the elbow is not visible [end edit]

Again, thank you so much for posting!

Like others said, dpreview forum rules don't allow nudity on the forums, even with NSFW warning. It's not a problem for me, but you may want to use links in the future, to avoid unnecessary "noise".

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OP Karaya Senior Member • Posts: 2,042
Re: Color-Outdoor shots

Thanks for the feedback. You make some valid points. In the outdoor color archery shot I fear she may have been squinting from looking into a reflector. I think I need to shoot more frames in the future to capture frames without these minor flaws.

As for the indoor shots the intention was to capture a more static 'statuesque' classic look emphasizing form and lines while shooting for a more natural dynamic look outdoors - where we had more room!

Can someone point out where this supposed forum rule concerning linking nude photos is displayed? I do not want to get into trouble but I have not been able to find it.

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Baladam Regular Member • Posts: 173
Bow-arrow kneegin position.. wrong

While the photographic or artistic issues are on one side, reality or credibility of the picture is at the other.. imho

When holding the bow with left hand and arrow with the right, one should stand on the right knee and left foot , while body is turning slightly right-ward in this position.

BorisK1 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,644
Re: Color-Outdoor shots

Karaya wrote:

Thanks for the feedback. You make some valid points.

I did a bit of archery when I was a teenager, and your shots brought back some fond memories. So I thought to share some of the bits that I happened to remember. Hey, and if they give you an excuse to shoot that model again, all the better

Oh, one more little thing I just noticed: The left wrist, the one that's holding the bow, should be straight, not bent upwards. It takes a lot of force to pull that string. Don't know if it would make much of a difference to anyone who isn't an archer, but visually, it's that straight line from the front wrist to the back elbow that makes the "archer" pose so striking.

In the outdoor color archery shot I fear she may have been squinting from looking into a reflector. I think I need to shoot more frames in the future to capture frames without these minor flaws.

You captured great rolling clouds for the background, and bright sunlight in the foreground - great contrast and very dramatic, but could be too bright for anyone's eyes, even without a reflector.

As for the indoor shots the intention was to capture a more static 'statuesque' classic look emphasizing form and lines while shooting for a more natural dynamic look outdoors - where we had more room!

Makes sense!

Boris

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RoyGBiv Senior Member • Posts: 1,958
More archery realism...

BorisK1 wrote:

[edit] Almost forgot: The position of the right hand in the color bow shot is a bit off. The elbow should be pointing towards the back, in line with the arrow. The way she is standing now, she can't exert any real force on the string. In the BW shot, this is not as much of a problem, because the elbow is not visible [end edit]

Yes, the pulling forearm should be in line with the arrow, as the force of cocking the arrow is in that direction. Would definitely add a more dynamic feel to the shot.

Baladam is correct about the knees.

Also, the arrow lines up to the eyes, as you sight down the shaft when sighting. Olympics...not cupid.

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Err.

With that picture I did not even notice the bow position. I don't think I even noticed the bow at first.

These pictures had the impact that most pictures would like to make. As to the bow position ? It's called artistic license.

Actually after watching the Olympics it is a good thing some of those archers keep their clothes on and definitely the discuss throwers as well.

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OP Karaya Senior Member • Posts: 2,042
Thanks guys, but...

RoyGBiv wrote:

BorisK1 wrote:

[edit] Almost forgot: The position of the right hand in the color bow shot is a bit off. The elbow should be pointing towards the back, in line with the arrow. The way she is standing now, she can't exert any real force on the string. In the BW shot, this is not as much of a problem, because the elbow is not visible [end edit]

Yes, the pulling forearm should be in line with the arrow, as the force of cocking the arrow is in that direction. Would definitely add a more dynamic feel to the shot.

Baladam is correct about the knees.

Also, the arrow lines up to the eyes, as you sight down the shaft when sighting. Olympics...not cupid.

I do appreciate the technical tips on archery but lets stay on track here. This is a series of artistic nude photographs - not a archery training series. The model had some experience in archery, and her escort had a background in track and field. We discussed the technical details quite a bit and I pointed out that, while we would try to be as technically correct as possible, what looked good would have to trump whatever was most correct when the two came into conflict, i.e. good art usually requires some artistic license!

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Re: Thanks guys, but...

Karaya wrote:

I do appreciate the technical tips on archery but lets stay on track here. This is a series of artistic nude photographs - not a archery training series. The model had some experience in archery, and her escort had a background in track and field. We discussed the technical details quite a bit and I pointed out that, while we would try to be as technically correct as possible, what looked good would have to trump whatever was most correct when the two came into conflict, i.e. good art usually requires some artistic license!

Very true. It's easy to get carried away. I remember a scalding letter about a WW2 movie that said something like this: "Why is it, that whenever the story line calls for a radio transmission, the soundtrack is a meaningless series of dots and dashes? Don't they realize that a sizable portiion of the audience can read Morse code by ear and are deeply offended by this?"

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Re: Thanks guys, but...

Karaya wrote:

I do appreciate the technical tips on archery but lets stay on track here. This is a series of artistic nude photographs - not a archery training series. The model had some experience in archery, and her escort had a background in track and field. We discussed the technical details quite a bit and I pointed out that, while we would try to be as technically correct as possible, what looked good would have to trump whatever was most correct when the two came into conflict, i.e. good art usually requires some artistic license!

I was mostly thinking that the elbow position of the drawing arm actually diminished the dynamism of the picture...I recognize the validity of artistic license. But that particular piece of artistic license says "doink" to me, not "Pfshhhhhhh......Thhpppp!!"

This reminds me of an npr piece wrt recording the sights and sounds of olympic competition, in which the last few olympics had transformed into more of an artistic representation, than a journalistic one, because of the effort to recreate the sounds of the competitors, not the drowning noise of the audience.

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Re: My Olympic photos (NSFW)

Very nice...I love the tone.
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