EX2F availability now September 12, 2012

Billx08 wrote:

The Jacal wrote:
. . .

Oh, and I've been learning English since the early seventies.

Yes, and Frederick Forsythe's books probably were very helpful. I've read a couple (not including TDotJ) and think that he's overrated, almost a hack of a writer of suspense novels. But they were is more recent novels, so perhaps he became bored as he aged.

As opposed to becoming 'boring'.

I supplied the "cause". You supplied the implied "effect". This demonstrates that you sometimes do have a clue.

Very witty.

The samples are suspect, and whether you are able to understand that or not is your problem, not ours.

'Might' be my problem or is 'probably' my problem? See above.

Both are correct. English is like that, you know.

Yes I do know, and you are wrong.

But here you've lost the plot and it's back to 'no clue' for you.

Yes I do know English is like that and you are wrong about 'might' and 'probably'.

In your case though, you probably don't.

Why shouldn't I.

Putting the context back makes it easier to see :

Both are correct. English is like that, you know. In your case though, you probably don't.

Why shouldn't I.

This shows that you're convinced that not fully understanding the English language is somehow a virtue. It's understandable as an excuse, but not anything to be proud of.

Still didn't answer my question. And coming from someone who thinks that 'might' and 'probably' mean the same thing, your belief that I don't fully understand English is laughable.

Some of DPR's NX Studio Sample photos contained in their NX review were also suspect and I said so at the time that they were initially posted. DPR first denied that, giving all sorts of reasons why they were perfectly fine when the samples showed that the NX200 produced some really awful images. DPR eventually capitulated and re-shot the samples using a 60mm NX lens instead of the manual focus Pentax 50mm lens that was originally used. The new NX sample photos were vastly superior, with DPR admitting that they produced higher resolution than the NEX7's images. This wasn't the fault of the otherwise excellent NEX7. It was due to the lower quality NEX lens that was used to shoot its Studio images. It would probably have been much worse if DPR used the same Pentax lens on the NEX7 for the Studio sample images.

Don't know why you're mentioning this, can't use a different lens on the EX2.

Yet another demonstration of cluelessness or missing the point. It's not about interchangeable lenses, but about the fact that anyone, even trusted, reliable sources can sometimes post suspect images. In DPR's case, the original, full resolution images could be downloaded and they contained full EXIF data, which is how I determined that the aperture stated wasn't actually used, since the MF lens mounted with an adapter doesn't provide aperture information, but it could be inferred by knowing the shutter speed, the ISO used, and comparing it with other samples shot using different ISO values. The EX2f sample came with no source, no EXIF data, and were multi-shot crop composites that almost any fanboy could have kludged in minutes.

I was being flippant. Sense of humour override?

No, this is flippant :

adj. 1. Marked by disrespectful levity or casualness;

If you wanted to toss off a 'flip' remark you'd need to make it at least slightly obvious. Writing :

Don't know why you're mentioning this, can't use a different lens on the EX2.

shows no sign of being a flippant remark. If that was your intent,
as opposed to being a face saving remark based on 20/20 hindsight,

Which it wasn't.

you again show that you haven't yet mastered English. Even tagging that line with a sometimes overdone smiley would have indicated a possible lack of seriousness. Fail.

I don't know why you've suddenly decided to start teaching English. Is "fail" a sentence? Or are you using it in the imperative?

I'm not sure why you bothered with your reply since an hour ago you wrote :

Me neither. "Since an hour ago", is that good English?

I'm now going to foxtrot oscar because life is too short.

Now would be a good time to start doing a Foxtrot. The Lindy (Hop) is a lot more fun though.

I like the way you turn debates into personal assaults, interesting. Is it because you are wrong on a few counts and can't admit it or is it because your mother breastfeed you?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7467981@N05/

Tell the truth and shame the Devil, even though he doesn't really exist.

Billx08 wrote:

The Jacal wrote:
. . .

The samples are suspect, and whether you are able to understand that or not is your problem, not ours.

'Might' be my problem or is 'probably' my problem? See above.

Both are correct. English is like that, you know.

Yes I do know, and you are wrong.

But here you've lost the plot and it's back to 'no clue' for you.

Yes I do know English is like that and you are wrong about 'might' and 'probably'.

You most certainly don't know English very well but you think that you do. That's very unfortunate and is bound to cause much future aggravation in your dealings with other English speaking people. I could say that you might be a moron. I could also say that you probably aren't a moron. They would be possible, plausible statements. I could also add that I'm pretty sure that you aren't a moron and that would also fit. But nowhere here or before did I ever say that "might" and "probably" have the same meaning. That's just your misinterpretation. You're not just wrong, you're mighty wrong, and I'm quite sure about that.

you again show that you haven't yet mastered English. Even tagging that line with a sometimes overdone smiley would have indicated a possible lack of seriousness. Fail.

I don't know why you've suddenly decided to start teaching English. Is "fail" a sentence? Or are you using it in the imperative?

Why you continue to show your inability to grasp simple English is less a mystery than amusing. Languages evolve and English does more quickly than many. Perhaps I shouldn't have been so gentle and should have written " EPIC FAIL ". Does that make it any clearer? If not, here's a definition fer ya :

1. When something can be seen to be a total failure

2. Completely failed attempt to do something that would be considered rather simple.

I'm not sure why you bothered with your reply since an hour ago you wrote :

Me neither. "Since an hour ago", is that good English?

More than good enough. Now you're resorting to bringing up red herrings in order to change the subject.

I'm now going to foxtrot oscar because life is too short.

Now would be a good time to start doing a Foxtrot. The Lindy (Hop) is a lot more fun though.

I like the way you turn debates into personal assaults, interesting. Is it because you are wrong on a few counts and can't admit it or is it because your mother didn't breastfeed you?

Most people would have thought that the videos those links pointed to were interesting and lots of fun. Considering the discussion we're having to be "personal assaults" just shows how far from reality you've come. Your own feeble attempts at verbal insults are also inept, or do you consider breast feeding to be something to be avoided or be ashamed of, and worthy of being used as an insult? The more you go on, the more you're leaving the impression that your "Jacal" ID should have been "Jacass", and whether you take that as an insult or not, it's too true to ignore. You may not be a little boy any more, physically, but like the snake, it appears that you'll never grow up. But you could try . . .

What I said about the lunatics running the asylum...

my wife hung this outside my office door:

Not sure about the US but it's available now in the Uk at Park Cameras

http://www.parkcameras.com/24395/Samsung-EX2F-Black.html?referrer=Froogle+&utm_source=google&utm_medium=froogle&utm_campaign=pid24395

chris_j_l wrote:

And an order has been logged - my nephew, when confronted by evidence that he stole my EX1 (he was holding it) was unapologetic and refused to return it. My only option was to resort to Park cameras who are now sending me an EX2F :).

I'm getting soft in my old age.

C

Well , congrats to you ! I hope you post some thoughts on it when it arrives and you get familiar with it. And of course some sample images would be nice.