RX100 vs. DSC-HX200V for bird watching

Started Jun 23, 2012 | Discussions
Dimitri Khoz Contributing Member • Posts: 943
RX100 vs. DSC-HX200V for bird watching

Hey Guys,

it is Dimitri again.
Some may already know that I came from Canon forum,
but it does not mean that I do not admire job done by Sony while creating RX100.

As a prove of the fact,
I want to share with you some great pictures made with the new camera.

We all know
that the best camera for bird watching in the Sony's lineup is
Carl Zeiss labelled DSC-HX200V.
It has mighty 30x zoom and comparably compact size.

Can RX100 do a better job?
Answer is - YES

How was it is done?- you may ask me.
Here is an answer:

It is Kowa TSN-774 Prominar XD 3" 77mm Spotting Scope
with Digisco TurboAdapter 28XWDA

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/470693-REG/Kowa_TSN_774_TSN_774_Prominar_XD_3_0_77mm.html
http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/kyoeioptics/item/28xwda/

Enjoy it!

Sony RX100
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ASR45
ASR45 Forum Pro • Posts: 37,306
Re: RX100 vs. DSC-HX200V for bird watching

Looks good
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Sam_Oslo
Sam_Oslo Veteran Member • Posts: 3,055
Re: RX100 vs. DSC-HX200V for bird watching

Nice shots . You got a nice little birding gear there .

I've just been trying to tell a guy about the crippled lens that limits the reach of RX100, but he couldn't get the point. Your shots is a prov, but you have to spend about $2.500 ? That's 5 time more than HX200v, and the size seams to become a bit bigger too

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Rob Vermaas Contributing Member • Posts: 946
Re: RX100 vs. DSC-HX200V for bird watching

Yes,very informative post!
Thanx for posting
Regards,
Rob

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Elaka Farmor Contributing Member • Posts: 579
Re: RX100 vs. DSC-HX200V for bird watching

Nice pics!

RX100 will be the ultimate digiscoping camera for a long time, thats for sure.

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Stephen McDonald
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Re: RX100 vs. DSC-HX200V for bird watching

What kind of viewing loupe are you using on the viewscreen?
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ric63
ric63 Senior Member • Posts: 2,557
Re: RX100 vs. DSC-HX200V for bird watching

Love the shots, they seem a little on the dark side though.
How much did this rig cost all up including the camera?
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aaanouel
aaanouel Veteran Member • Posts: 5,107
I agree with Sam: Pears and elephants! no sense...

Excellent birds shots... wonderful shots, indeed!
Congrats! but...

Not even pears and oranges you are trying to compare, but pears and elephants.

The comparison (and there is not such) makes no sense at all. If you want to really compare them, then fit (if it's possible) the whole add-on lens arrangement to 30X HX200V and compare results.

Of course RX100 IQ would surely win due its 1"20Mp sensor and controlled NR factor, but HX200V would be able to capture the veins inside the bird eye pupils , LOL!.

Txs4Sharing
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aaanouel
aaanouel Veteran Member • Posts: 5,107
Ric: $3.800

Here you are Ric:

Kowa TSN-774 Prominar XD 3" 77mm Spotting Scope: $2050
TurboAdapter 28XWDA: $450
Tripod: $500
Lens adapter and arrangement: $230
RX100: $770

Total $4.000... only...
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OP Dimitri Khoz Contributing Member • Posts: 943
Re: Ric: $3.800

Some more pics made with the rig

how the attachment to adapter was made

rpm40
rpm40 Senior Member • Posts: 2,411
Re: Ric: $3.800

Really nice results, and an interesting creative solution. Still, is all that gear really almost $4,000? If that's the case, it's safe to say you might be the only person in the world to ever have that exact configuration. Congrats! (I think...)

Sam_Oslo
Sam_Oslo Veteran Member • Posts: 3,055
Re: Ric: $3.800

aaanouel wrote:

Here you are Ric:

Kowa TSN-774 Prominar XD 3" 77mm Spotting Scope: $2050
TurboAdapter 28XWDA: $450
Tripod: $500
Lens adapter and arrangement: $230
RX100: $770

Total $4.000... only...
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LOL, it's only $4.000? But that's only 8-times more than a HX200v, and the size is only about 2-3-times bigger, and the wight is probably only 3-4-times more than HX200v

This is a good salutation for those RX100-owners who may become desperate to fix the lack-of-long-reach metal disorders and complexes, to get some birdies on big sensor , no matter what the costs, wight or size, but don't try this at home.

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TrojMacReady
TrojMacReady Veteran Member • Posts: 8,729
Does the photographer...

Does the photographer think it's cool that you have his shots in your Dpreview gallery and that you're posting them here?

It would atleast be nice if you linked to the original Chinese forum where these were posted.

eschelar New Member • Posts: 14
Re: RX100 vs. DSC-HX200V for bird watching

Holy crap man! That's amazing! I love the setup pic as well. Kinda reminds me of my macro setup that I had when I was using the Canon S2 IS with a backwards 80-200 f/2.8L to do facial portraits of flies.

Insain in the brain dude!

Weird bokeh though... but definitely something you could live with.

OP Dimitri Khoz Contributing Member • Posts: 943
Re: Does the photographer...

TrojMacReady wrote:

Does the photographer think it's cool that you have his shots in your Dpreview gallery and that you're posting them here?

It would atleast be nice if you linked to the original Chinese forum where these were posted.

I never said that it is me who did the shots.
I am sharing them with you because they are very relevant
in showing what is achievable with the new RX100 camera.

Shots I am posting are not copyright protected like on Flickr.

My Gallery on DPReview has 2 folders,
and I marked all pictures that I made myself with the name My ISOXXX shot.

But to be honest, all shots I have there were made solely for this forum and some discussions I had here with the members.

Pictures I posted in this thread are not from Chinese forum.
They are from Japanese photo blog of a guy with the name Anyo from Kagoshima
who specializes in the bird photography and is promoting DIGISCO equipment.

Here is his blog page:
http://yokensaka.com/blog/index.php?itemid=1867

aaanouel
aaanouel Veteran Member • Posts: 5,107
I agree with rpm40
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aaanouel
aaanouel Veteran Member • Posts: 5,107
Sam: a great "LOL" for you!

I have to agree that these " MacGyver's " are admirable and congratulate the skilled people who can, do and have fun with them: Congrats!

RX100V has a big sensor and great IQ of course, but a fixed LCD, only 3.6X zoom and no capability for changing lenses or using any add-on but implementing curious, pricy and bulky arrangements like this, where's the compact/portable camera concept gone? I'd better used an ordinary dSRL for this experiment but had never tried to make a senseless comparison with HX100/200V.

For me, RX100V is not much more than an ordinary P&S camera on the "big sensor" platform, now fashioning on the footbridge and a bunch of papparatzi around.

This is a good salutation for those RX100-owners who may become desperate to fix the lack-of-long-reach metal disorders and complexes, to get some birdies on big sensor , no matter what the costs, wight or size, but don't try this at home.

Right, LOL!!!!!!!!!
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aaanouel
aaanouel Veteran Member • Posts: 5,107
It's just a curiosity I liked.

It's just a curiosity no matters where it comes from.
I do like this Dimitri's post.
Txs4Sharing
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rpm40
rpm40 Senior Member • Posts: 2,411
Re: Does the photographer...

Dimitri Khoz wrote:

TrojMacReady wrote:

Does the photographer think it's cool that you have his shots in your Dpreview gallery and that you're posting them here?

It would atleast be nice if you linked to the original Chinese forum where these were posted.

I never said that it is me who did the shots.
I am sharing them with you because they are very relevant
in showing what is achievable with the new RX100 camera.

Shots I am posting are not copyright protected like on Flickr.

My Gallery on DPReview has 2 folders,
and I marked all pictures that I made myself with the name My ISOXXX shot.

But to be honest, all shots I have there were made solely for this forum and some discussions I had here with the members.

Pictures I posted in this thread are not from Chinese forum.
They are from Japanese photo blog of a guy with the name Anyo from Kagoshima
who specializes in the bird photography and is promoting DIGISCO equipment.

Here is his blog page:
http://yokensaka.com/blog/index.php?itemid=1867

Oh, that wasn't clear at all. I definitely thought the photos were yours.

I assume you don't have this scope gear after all, but do you own an rx100? Thats important to know when hearing your feedback on the camera.

TrojMacReady
TrojMacReady Veteran Member • Posts: 8,729
Re: Does the photographer...

rpm40 wrote:

Dimitri Khoz wrote:

TrojMacReady wrote:

Does the photographer think it's cool that you have his shots in your Dpreview gallery and that you're posting them here?

It would atleast be nice if you linked to the original Chinese forum where these were posted.

I never said that it is me who did the shots.
I am sharing them with you because they are very relevant
in showing what is achievable with the new RX100 camera.

Shots I am posting are not copyright protected like on Flickr.

My Gallery on DPReview has 2 folders,
and I marked all pictures that I made myself with the name My ISOXXX shot.

But to be honest, all shots I have there were made solely for this forum and some discussions I had here with the members.

Pictures I posted in this thread are not from Chinese forum.
They are from Japanese photo blog of a guy with the name Anyo from Kagoshima
who specializes in the bird photography and is promoting DIGISCO equipment.

Here is his blog page:
http://yokensaka.com/blog/index.php?itemid=1867

Oh, that wasn't clear at all. I definitely thought the photos were yours.

I assume you don't have this scope gear after all, but do you own an rx100? Thats important to know when hearing your feedback on the camera.

He doesn't.

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