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Guide: How to remove AA and IR Filter from your NX10

Started Jun 22, 2012 | Discussions
tufir Regular Member • Posts: 277
Guide: How to remove AA and IR Filter from your NX10
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I finally decided to remote AA and IR filter from my NX10 (so in case I screw up I can justify a NX20...). Well, I didn't. And in case somebody else want's to try it, I prepared a little tutorial.

Step 1: remove all visible screws to get rid of the back side of the camera. Attention: one screw sits under the rubber for the thump, another is located in the battery slot.

After that the back side will come off and we will see the AMOLED.

Step 2: Remove the 2 screws holding the AMOLED. You can't access the one in the left down corner, you have lift and rotate it:

Now comes the hardest part, Step 3: we need to remove the main board. Therefore we have to remove all data cables and some screws. Careful here, very fiddly - it even worse putting them back in...

Now - the contacts to the battery will need some space to lift the mainboard out. It helps if you - gently - lift up the top plate of the camera.

If you've done that you will see the next board:

Now it get's easier. You see 7 screws. The 4 silver hold the sensor and the filters. The 3 black are for sensor alignment. Remove them all, then you can turn the board aside.

In my experience the AA filter does some IR-filtering to. Both are only glued - you need a little knife to remove them.

There we have it. You can know isolate the filters from the sensor. Keep the sensor somewhere clean. It now depends on what you want: the AA filter should be the bright one in front connected with the power cable for dust shaking. Under that one is the blue IR-Filter.

In my case - I removed both and then put everything back together. There seems to be 3 drawbacks so far:

  • I have no dust removal since there is no more AA filter left

  • the sensor is completely unprotected

  • the optical path must have changed someway, because when I got everything back together it wouldn't focus until infinity. I needed to open it again and tighten the alignment screws a lot more then they were in the first place. Perhaps it would be better to replace the IR filter with something else of the same thickness.

After that - it works fine. No autofocus problems with any of my lenses.

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Ian Leach Senior Member • Posts: 1,475
Re: Guide: How to remove AA and IR Filter from your NX10

Thanks this is interesting. You are right about needing to put other glass in its place. Replace with optically clear glass of the same thickness or better still an infrared filter of the same thickness (but no more colour shots). The glass has to be there or the camera will give focus error (I read why but can’t remember). Thanks again Ian.

paulhome Contributing Member • Posts: 841
Re: Guide: How to remove AA and IR Filter from your NX10

you can focus without any filter if you screw the sensor to the tightest point, thats my finding on the nx100. Something else to keep in mind that glass replacement would not just work in the same manor if its the same physical thickness.

I did some tests regarding the IR cut strength of the 2 filters here. Also i made a glass replacement filter. It cost a stop of light so i have since removed it. looking back the glass was easier to clean than the naked sensor .
http://paulrshome.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/nx100-internal-filters-analysed.html

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Raffwal
Raffwal Regular Member • Posts: 389
Re: Guide: How to remove AA and IR Filter from your NX10

An interesting project, although I wouldn't dare try this on mine. Any pictures taken WITH the camera?

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OP tufir Regular Member • Posts: 277
Photos

Sure

All taken with the 85mm Samyang lens and without any additional filters (so visible + IR color). White Balance set to 2050K.

The first is not so fat from the visible color:

under tree cover it start's to become Black/white pictures:

one great thing for wildlife photography is the additional IR-light giving the chance for short shutter speeds even in low light conditions.

paulhome Contributing Member • Posts: 841
Re: Photos

one thing you may find using full spectrum is focus problems (not AF problems) as IR light focuses at a different point to normal light. It can leave images a bit blurry, if you buy a ir/uv cut filter you can still use it for normal light shooting. Insects are slightly different as the dont really radiate IR light so full spectrum can keep them quite sharp.

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Exteban Forum Member • Posts: 91
Re: Guide: How to remove AA and IR Filter from your NX10
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I realize this thread is very old, but I want to reply anyway to say thank you for making this guide. Somehow I didn't break anything, and now my old NX10 is reborn as an IR camera!  It was surprisingly easy to do.  The hardest part was definitely putting the ribbon cables back in, followed by maneuvering the battery contacts.  I removed both the AA and IR filters and tightened the sensor placement screws down all the way.  Autofocus seems to be working fine, though I haven't tested how much it shifted the nearest focus distance.

IR test shot taken from my driveway with a 720 nm filter.  It worked!

noncho
noncho Regular Member • Posts: 348
Re: Guide: How to remove AA and IR Filter from your NX10

Very interesting, especially with the current prices of those old NX bodies.

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