Epson R2000 vs R3000

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Michael Bennett Regular Member • Posts: 161
Epson R2000 vs R3000
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-Is the Epson 3000 worth the extra money over the Epson 2000? I don't see much difference in features.-
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Phil Hill Senior Member • Posts: 2,677
Re: Epson R2000 vs R3000

The R3000 has a superb built-in B&W engine that takes advantage of three black inks. If you make B&W prints i believe you'll find the R3000 to be well worth the price. If not, the R2000 is a great printer.

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Michael Bennett wrote:

-Is the Epson 3000 worth the extra money over the Epson 2000? I don't see much difference in features.-

There aren’t any major feature differences, except for the ink sets. It is more what they are designed for. The r2000 is really aimed at color prints on photo papers, the r3000 will do that too but is much better than the r2000 on fine art papers and for black and white printing.

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chooflaki Regular Member • Posts: 397
Re: Epson R2000 vs R3000

I have the R2000 and the colour photos are a joy. B&W is also very good but I agree the R3000 has the edge in this regard due to the specialised inks set. In six months I have had no clogs or jams and the ink lasts well except for the gloss optimiser and cyan which go down relatively fast. The R2000 lacks an LCD screen which is no big deal. Both printers handle all kind of papers including rolls. If you do little or no B&W printing then the R2000 would be the better value for sure.

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Michael Bennett OP Regular Member • Posts: 161
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thanks for the info. I ordered a R2000 from IT Supplies.
Michael Bennett

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jtoolman Veteran Member • Posts: 5,818
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It's all about B&W vs COLOR. Mechanically the R3000 runs circles around the R2000.

As far as the printing goes, it's all about bright goergeous color on the R2000 specially on your glossy and luster / satin papers. Great matte prints as well. Not so good B&W as it will not produce a linear neutral print from the blackest to the lightest tones. They may run from warm to cool or viceversa along the black to white scale. I own both the R2000 and also am running two R1900s in my shop.

The R3000 on the other hand will not produce the super glossy results of the R2000 on glossy papers but it excels at printing on Art papers and in B&W mode. Plus, it is build like a tank.

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Wild-Mike Veteran Member • Posts: 5,910
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Hi jtooolman,

I have the r1800 (similar to the r1900) and was wondering what you think of the results of the prints compared to the r2000 which I am considering since I print primarily with Epson's premium glossy papers.

Thanks,

Mike

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jtoolman Veteran Member • Posts: 5,818
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Wild-Mike wrote:

Hi jtooolman,

I have the r1800 (similar to the r1900) and was wondering what you think of the results of the prints compared to the r2000 which I am considering since I print primarily with Epson's premium glossy papers.

Thanks,

Mike

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I could not tell you what the differences in rendition would be since the R1800 and R1900/R2000 use different ink sets. The 1900/2000 use Orange and Red and the R1800 use Red and Blue aside for the CMYK inks.

They both use GO so gloss should be about the same.

Joe

Ronnie Potgieter Contributing Member • Posts: 894
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Using Epson paper with the R2000, do the "standard" Epson profiles give good enough results.

I am thinking of getting the R2000, and have to say that I do not know much about creating special profiles.

I use Qimage for printing.

Thanks

Ronnie.

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Robert Snow Contributing Member • Posts: 862
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If you have all the software settings correct, the Epson profiles will give excellent results in my experience.  That assumes that you have a decent monitor calibration in place.

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Ronnie Potgieter Contributing Member • Posts: 894
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Robert Snow wrote:

If you have all the software settings correct, the Epson profiles will give excellent results in my experience.  That assumes that you have a decent monitor calibration in place.

bob snow

Thanks Bob. From past experience I know that you need to get the profiles/ICC management set up correctly when using Qimage.

Regards

Ronnie.

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Wild-Mike Veteran Member • Posts: 5,910
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It's pretty easy once you figure out the settings.  Epson has a tutorial online that gives you a walk through on profiling.  Let me know if you have any questions.  Also, if you go to inkjetcarts.us they have a good tutorial as well.  Also, you can save a lot of money using their inks and sending them profile charts and they will set up custom profiles for free with any papers/canvas, etc. you want to profile on.  That way you will have inks, printers and papers all in sync. I also use Datacolor's Spyder Pro4 for monitor calibration.

What's funny is Epson said they are using new inks in the Epson R2000 but they are the same inks as the R1800, etc.  ...other than loosing blue and adding orange ...and adding the catch term "glossy" to the inks!

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sjprintz Regular Member • Posts: 382
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I have the R1800 for 5-6 years and it printed beautifully.  It finally failed and I purchased the R2000.  I thought about R3000, but Epson recommends the R2000 if you do mostly color (which I do).  They said the R3000 is better for B+W.

I set up the R2000 quickly and easily and after calibrating my monitor, I set up Photoshop to control the color and voila, the prints matched the monitor almost perfectly.  I must say that the R1800 never matched as well and it seemed to vary every time I started it up.  If this calibration continues between printer and monitor, I will find printing a pleasure - something I never experienced with my R1800 as I ALWAYS had to re-calibrate the printer upon start up.

SJP

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