XP1: are your strap lugs showing extreme wear/

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tom e Senior Member • Posts: 2,908
XP1: are your strap lugs showing extreme wear/

Another forum has a thread suggesting that the strap lugs on the XP1 are made of a too soft metal, and that the little Fuji strap triangles are causing marked wear on the lugs. This may also be happening with split rings, but it seems the triangles are the major offender.

I think there are more readers on this forum so I was wondering who is or is not seeing lug wear.

I have not noticed any on mine, but I have not stressed my camera much so far.
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kiw Regular Member • Posts: 172
Re: XP1: are your strap lugs showing extreme wear/

I dont have that problem and I have used my X-Pro1 8 ours pr. day in two month..

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FDL37 Regular Member • Posts: 136
Re: XP1: are your strap lugs showing extreme wear/

Trolls are very inventive indeed!
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dengx Senior Member • Posts: 1,022
Re: XP1: are your strap lugs showing extreme wear/

FDL37 wrote:

Trolls are very inventive indeed!

I seriously doubt this is trolling.

Both X100 and X-Pro1 have very soft lugs that paired with the triangle clips show wear after moderate using. Some cases are even extreme.

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Geoffrey Kitt Contributing Member • Posts: 752
Re: XP1: are your strap lugs showing extreme wear/

I recall seeing a picture of this wear (though I think it was on an X100) - but I can't remember if it was on this forum or elsewhere.

It looked alarming enough for me to decide to keep an eye on the condition of the lugs on both my XP1 and X100!

So far no problem .........

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dengx Senior Member • Posts: 1,022
Re: XP1: are your strap lugs showing extreme wear/

X100 and X-Pro1, two quick searches:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1020&message=40754091

http://www.fujix-forum.com/index.php?/topic/4873-fujifilm-triangle-rings-causes-lug-wear/

Personally I used the triangle clips on X100 and my lugs show some moderate wear, nothing extreme but concerning enough.

Since then I've bought Luigi's straps and used one on my X-Pro from the start, so far - no problems but I'm pretty sure that it will wear too, just at a slower pace.

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Asylum Photo
Asylum Photo Senior Member • Posts: 1,277
Re: XP1: are your strap lugs showing extreme wear/

It's not trolling, unfortunately. The lug wear issue is a known issue.

That being said, no one has reported their lugs wearing all the way through, so at least there's that.

In the meantime though, I've switched to a thicker "D" triangle ring on my X-Pro1, and circular rings on my X100, to hopefully slow down the wear. (I have very visible wear on both cameras)

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Re: XP1: are your strap lugs showing extreme wear/
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FDL37 wrote:

Trolls are very inventive indeed!

You are an abject clown. This wear issue has been around for some time with the X100 and clearly the X Pro 1 uses the same too soft metal for the lug straps. Wear is definitely an issue. My X100 show very significant wear.

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Re: XP1: are your strap lugs showing extreme wear/

I did with the X Pro1 what I did wit the X 100 : replacing the triangle by pieces of black shoe laces, the thickest I could get through the lugs
With good black tape and careful work it's ok and very strong

Moreover ot give a better progressive mobility of the neck strap arouand the lugs
Not theoretically wonderful but practically effective!

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Jim Radcliffe
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Let me make sure I understand...

So is the wear on the lugs such that they are about to give-way and the strap falls off and the camera is damaged or.. is it that the lug simply shows a bit of use?

I can understand the concern if the camera was somehow going to be damaged but simple wear on a strap lug is nothing critical.

If you use a camera, it will eventually show a bit of wear.. I don't see a problem.
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mr moonlight Senior Member • Posts: 1,789
Re: XP1: are your strap lugs showing extreme wear/

The strap lugs is a pretty significant issue with the X100 and Xpro1. It seems that they are made of the same metal but I don't know for sure. I used the triangle rings on my X100 for about a year and noticed significant wear. At this rate of wear, if I kept using the triangle rings, I'd probably be through them in about 2 more years. I now have circular rings on my X100 and my Xpro1. It seems to have helped quite a bit since I've been using the Xpro1 for about 2.5 months now and have notice only very minor wear with some of it coming from when I had triangle rings on it for the first 3 weeks. Nothing to indicate that the amount of wear would be anything close to what I have on my X100 10 months from now.

So definitely ditch the triangle rings and at the minimum use circular rings. You will still get some wear with the circular rings, but it seems to be much much less.

framus Contributing Member • Posts: 847
Re: XP1: are your strap lugs showing extreme wear/

Sheesh!

Untwist those knickers.

Do we know for a fact that the lug material is the same in both the X100 and the Xpro-1?

Likely but not certain.

-Framus

...off to find a metalurigist.

rattymouse wrote:

FDL37 wrote:

Trolls are very inventive indeed!

You are an abject clown. This wear issue has been around for some time with the X100 and clearly the X Pro 1 uses the same too soft metal for the lug straps. Wear is definitely an issue. My X100 show very significant wear.

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dengx Senior Member • Posts: 1,022
Re: Let me make sure I understand...

Jim Radcliffe wrote:

So is the wear on the lugs such that they are about to give-way and the strap falls off and the camera is damaged or.. is it that the lug simply shows a bit of use?

Unfortunately the first one.

Here's a pic from another thread:

Jim Radcliffe
Jim Radcliffe Forum Pro • Posts: 11,509
That would seem to be a real problem...

Yes, that would appear to be a serious problem. I am not seeing that kind of wear on my XP1.. hope it does not appear. I am using the triangular rings.
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Bad Pic kev Veteran Member • Posts: 8,759
really?

people still use straps?

you buy a camera and rather than worry about the pics you take with it the eye hooks are the primary concern.
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Re: That would seem to be a real problem...

Jim Radcliffe wrote:

Yes, that would appear to be a serious problem. I am not seeing that kind of wear on my XP1.. hope it does not appear. I am using the triangular rings.

Definitely looks like one of those problems to be aware of, and occasionally inspect the condition of your cameras' lugs. Definitely not something I would worry myself over though.

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Re: That would seem to be a real problem...

The lugs of my X-pro1 are almost worn out in almost 2 years so my body is to Fuji repair today

just 2 months before warranty is over

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baobob
baobob Veteran Member • Posts: 7,226
Re: XP1: are your strap lugs showing extreme wear/

Several solution to avoid lug wear:

1/- replace small and ridiculous trianles by quite big rings to avoid blocage of the triangle on the wear

2/- use some solid thread/small cable instead of the ring

With the 55-200mm plus an L bracket the combo begins to be heavy so one has to be careful with that solution

I use rings and do not observe significant wear on the lugs after 18 months (small traces of abrasion on the outer part)

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pcb_dpr Contributing Member • Posts: 835
Re: XP1: are your strap lugs showing extreme wear/

Yes, the X100/XP1 have relatively soft lugs, which results in significant wear for some users. Wear seems to be accelerated by relatively narrow rings and/or the sharp corner of triangle rings. Newer X-series cameras have stainless steel inserts, which fixes the problem. Clearly Fuji recognized the problem and addressed it. The lug opening diameter is now smaller, so some larger-diameter rings fit tighter than they did on earlier cameras.

It doesn't seem to be a massive problem, but the lug was under-designed and corrected on later cameras. No reason to panic, but I'd say you should check the lugs if you have an X100/XP1.

tom e wrote:

Another forum has a thread suggesting that the strap lugs on the XP1 are made of a too soft metal, and that the little Fuji strap triangles are causing marked wear on the lugs. This may also be happening with split rings, but it seems the triangles are the major offender.

Birse Boy Regular Member • Posts: 331
Re: XP1: are your strap lugs showing extreme wear/

Given that it was a definite problem for the X100 ( and seemingly XP! too ), Fuji have responded by having stainless inserts in the lugs of more recent models.

What baffles me is that my XE1 still came with cheap crappy triangular split rings that have too tight an angle for the lugs. Look at any other new camera ( old ones too ) in this sort of price bracket and they have decent rings with shallower more rounded angles, often with a plastic insert that stops the ring spinining through the lugs, which is when the split parts of the ring can gouge away at the metal.

It's such a cheap fix it's beyond reason why Fuji haven't done it.

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