5D III - Selecting focus points on intersecting lines 3x3 grid in VF

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Rumi Siddiqui
Rumi Siddiqui Regular Member • Posts: 201
5D III - Selecting focus points on intersecting lines 3x3 grid in VF

I'm trying to frame my shots using the rule of thirds, and I have enabled the 3x3 grid in the view finder, but no matter which autofocus point selection I choose, when I try to manually select a point, it will not go as far as where the x & y lines intersect in any of the far corners of the grid.

I have only been able to achieve this in LiveView because I can move the focus box to the far corners. The only other way I can frame the shot for thirds is using the 3x3 grid in the view finder and then manually focus.

Please tell me there a way to use the view finder and manually move the focus point within the various intersections of the 3x3 grid. I thought I turned on the option to have more point selection enabled, but it does not seemed to have worked.

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Rumi Siddiqui
OP Rumi Siddiqui Regular Member • Posts: 201
AF near rule of thirds point

I'd like to add, I'm presently using the canon 50 1.4 and 85 1.8- I like to shoot between apertures of 2.0 to 5.6 with these lenses.

I'd really like to be able autofocus near a rule-of-thirds intersection from the view finder.

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tmr Senior Member • Posts: 1,520
Re: 5D III - Selecting focus points on intersecting lines 3x3 grid in VF

No, the AF points in the viewfinder are fixed.

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Rumi Siddiqui
OP Rumi Siddiqui Regular Member • Posts: 201
Re: 5D III - Selecting focus points on intersecting lines 3x3 grid in VF

Are you serious? They have a 3x3 grid for the rule of thirds, but it won't AF for the rule of thirds within the view finder of the 5D III. That's absurd.

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ElanToXT Senior Member • Posts: 1,096
Re: 5D III - Selecting focus points on intersecting lines 3x3 grid in VF

Why can't you focus and recompose? The grid is there as a guide.
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cpkuntz
cpkuntz Senior Member • Posts: 1,003
Re: 5D III - Selecting focus points on intersecting lines 3x3 grid in VF

The vertical grid lines do intersect with some of the autofocus points, but not at the intersections with the horizontal lines. You must recompose if you want to focus at these intersections (excuse poor image quality; this was the result of using the snipping tool twice; once in DPP for AF points then again in PS for grid lines).

Skip M Veteran Member • Posts: 7,174
Re: 5D III - Selecting focus points on intersecting lines 3x3 grid in VF

Rumi Siddiqui wrote:

Are you serious? They have a 3x3 grid for the rule of thirds, but it won't AF for the rule of thirds within the view finder of the 5D III. That's absurd.

The grid is there as a compositional guide, not a focus aid.

For that matter, the "rule" of thirds is a compositional guide, not a hard and fast law.
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tallshorty Contributing Member • Posts: 722
Just recompose

Choose the closest AF point, focus, and then recompose the subject to your desired position, take photo. Not that complicated.

Just curious, is this your first DSLR? Please don't be offended, but you sound quite novice.

Rumi Siddiqui
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Re: Just recompose

A novice, really? I figured maybe this time around; my new $3500 camera may actually do the simple task of AF to the rule of thirds without having to recompose or crop in post- within the viewfinder. Obviously it's not complicated, but it would be nice have in this caliber of camera.

tallshorty wrote:

Choose the closest AF point, focus, and then recompose the subject to your desired position, take photo. Not that complicated.

Just curious, is this your first DSLR? Please don't be offended, but you sound quite novice.

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tmr Senior Member • Posts: 1,520
Re: Just recompose

Rumi Siddiqui wrote:

A novice, really? I figured maybe this time around; my new $3500 camera may actually do the simple task of AF to the rule of thirds without having to recompose or crop in post- within the viewfinder. Obviously it's not complicated, but it would be nice have in this caliber of camera.

tallshorty wrote:

Choose the closest AF point, focus, and then recompose the subject to your desired position, take photo. Not that complicated.

Just curious, is this your first DSLR? Please don't be offended, but you sound quite novice.

Actually it is complicated to put an AF point toward the outer portions of the frame.

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tony field Veteran Member • Posts: 8,719
Maybe the are at rule of thirds.

You forgot to mention that the grid display does not show rule of thirds. That is an even greater sin That would be a fine asset for experienced photographers who shoot by the rules.

Rumi Siddiqui wrote:

A novice, really? I figured maybe this time around; my new $3500 camera may actually do the simple task of AF to the rule of thirds without having to recompose or crop in post- within the viewfinder. Obviously it's not complicated, but it would be nice have in this caliber of camera.

tallshorty wrote:

Choose the closest AF point, focus, and then recompose the subject to your desired position, take photo. Not that complicated.

Just curious, is this your first DSLR? Please don't be offended, but you sound quite novice.

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Skip M Veteran Member • Posts: 7,174
Re: Just recompose

Rumi Siddiqui wrote:

A novice, really? I figured maybe this time around; my new $3500 camera may actually do the simple task of AF to the rule of thirds without having to recompose or crop in post- within the viewfinder. Obviously it's not complicated, but it would be nice have in this caliber of camera.

tallshorty wrote:

Choose the closest AF point, focus, and then recompose the subject to your desired position, take photo. Not that complicated.

Just curious, is this your first DSLR? Please don't be offended, but you sound quite novice.

AF points are on the 1/3 marks, but barely, the grid lines are not, from what I can tell.. But, really, to you adhere to the rule of thirds unwaveringly?
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Skip M Veteran Member • Posts: 7,174
Re: Maybe the are at rule of thirds.

tony field wrote:

You forgot to mention that the grid display does not show rule of thirds. That is an even greater sin That would be a fine asset for experienced photographers who shoot by the rules.

Rumi Siddiqui wrote:

A novice, really? I figured maybe this time around; my new $3500 camera may actually do the simple task of AF to the rule of thirds without having to recompose or crop in post- within the viewfinder. Obviously it's not complicated, but it would be nice have in this caliber of camera.

tallshorty wrote:

Choose the closest AF point, focus, and then recompose the subject to your desired position, take photo. Not that complicated.

Just curious, is this your first DSLR? Please don't be offended, but you sound quite novice.

I can't tell if you're serious or not. Most "experienced" photographers have a pretty good handle on where the 1/3 and 2/3 areas are. Most of them. Most of the time. Pretty much.

What I like the grid lines for are keeping my horizons straight, something I've struggled with for years.

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