VR & VR 2 How to know which it is.

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Bob GB Senior Member • Posts: 1,681
There are many versions of the Nikon VR system

Each VR lens has its own unique VR system. The VR lens group will vary in weight and dimension from lens to lens. Therefore the VR system has to be designed particularly for each lens and tuned to work as intended. In addition the functionality varies from lens to lens.

My impression is that Nikon designed the first VR to have 3 shutter speeds slower compensation. When Nikon were able to achieve 4 shutter speeds slower they started to call that VR system for VRII.

http://www.nikonusa.com/en_US/IMG/Images/Micro-Sites/VR/technology/normal/

“Based on this procedure, vibration reduction effects providing the equivalent of a shutter speed of approx. three (with VR) or four (with VRII) stops faster are confirmed.”

Timefreezer BE Regular Member • Posts: 116
Re: There are many versions of the Nikon VR system

The VR or VR II label on the lens or if it is in red or gold has nothing to do with the VR version in the lens.

The 70-300 VR has always the second VR version (it was the first lens that received the second VR version).

18-200 VR and 18-200 VR II have both the second VR version (both were introduced after the 70-300 VR which had already VR II). The "II" in the lens name indicates it is the second version of the lens.

E.g. The "AF-S NIKKOR 16-35mm f/4G ED VR": there is no "II" in the name but that lens has VR II.

Rumle
Rumle Senior Member • Posts: 1,428
Answer here!!!

Read a few of the replies, and didnt find the right answer, so here it goes...

VR is indicated with VR having RED letters

VR II has GOLD letters

only exception is the 105mm and which has red lettering but does have VRII.

And if the first 18-200 had VRII that's an exception as well, they where the first ones to have VRII.

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Mako2011
Mako2011 Forum Pro • Posts: 20,268
exceptions

Rumle wrote:

Read a few of the replies, and didnt find the right answer, so here it goes...

VR is indicated with VR having RED letters

VR II has GOLD letters

only exception is the 105mm and which has red lettering but does have VRII.

And if the first 18-200 had VRII that's an exception as well, they where the first ones to have VRII.

That's the problem, dang exceptions It's always A unless B but not always

SergioSpain Contributing Member • Posts: 509
Re: Answer here!!!

Plenty of people had the right answer, not that this is a competition.

Rumle wrote:

Read a few of the replies, and didnt find the right answer, so here it goes...

VR is indicated with VR having RED letters

VR II has GOLD letters

only exception is the 105mm and which has red lettering but does have VRII.

And if the first 18-200 had VRII that's an exception as well, they where the first ones to have VRII.

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Timefreezer BE Regular Member • Posts: 116
Re: Answer here!!!

And the 70-300 VR is also with the red VR label and has also VR II........

Nikon just changed from red to gold because they liked it probably more and VR is not so exotic anymore.

Rumle wrote:

VR is indicated with VR having RED letters

VR II has GOLD letters

only exception is the 105mm and which has red lettering but does have VRII.

And if the first 18-200 had VRII that's an exception as well, they where the first ones to have VRII.

Patco Forum Pro • Posts: 12,263
That's simply not so...

xsimplyjosh wrote:

VR II is usually gold
and VR I is usually red.

No.

For example, the original 18-200 has a red VR, and the "II" version has a gold VR.
They are both "VRII".

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Patco Forum Pro • Posts: 12,263
Re: Not always
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Mako2011 wrote:

slimandy wrote:

Mako2011 wrote:

The nomenclature "VR vs. "VR II" has nothing to do with Vibration Reduction version and only indicates that the lens has VR and in the case of "II" is an updated lens version, overall, from the previous lens.

Not true. Quote from Nikon's description of the lens in question.....

"This lens incorporates Nikon’s second-generation vibration reduction system (VR II) that allows flexible hand-held shooting by stabilizing the image to the equivalent extent of using a shutter speed that is four stops faster when compared with a conventional lens (as determined by Nikon performance test). "

Not always the case though. Even Nikon's own literature gets it wrong. Look at the 18-200 VR and VR II lens. The 18-200 VR lens incorporated second generation VR technology while the VR II version had the same 4 stop VR tech

Red and Gold VR both were version 2 VR. Trying to get a handle on Nikon lens markings is and exercise in futility. The only thing, in this case, that is actually consistent is that any lens with the "VR II" nomenclature is an update of a previous version of the lens and may not be an update in the VR. In the case of the 18-200 it was a addition of zoom lock and not a VR update.

The second version of the lens is designated as the "II" version.
Both the original and the "II" version have "VRII".

A cynic might say Nikon moved the "VR" part of the name to the end before tacking on the "II" to mislead people into thinking the VR has been updated

First version:
"AF-S DX VR Zoom-Nikkor 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED"

Second version:
"AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II"
(Note the space between the VR and the II, which is not the way Nikon
designates the second version of VR, ie. "VRII", with no space)

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Patco Forum Pro • Posts: 12,263
Both versions of the 18-200 have VRII...

RBFresno wrote:

For slower lenses, VR is often more important, and having a "better" VR can make a difference. E.g.:

18-200VR (there are VR I and VR II versions)

That's not correct - both the first version, and the "II" version of the 18-200 have "VRII".

The original version:
AF-S DX VR Zoom-Nikkor 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED
"Enhanced Vibration Reduction (VRII) offers the equivalent of using a shutter
speed 4 stops faster"

http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/zoom/normalzoom/af-s_dx_vr_zoom18-200mmf_35-56g_if/index.htm

The "II" version:
AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II
"Built-in Vibration Reduction (VR II)"

http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/zoom/normalzoom/af-s_dx_18-200mmf_35-56g_ed_vr2/index.htm

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Arree
Arree Senior Member • Posts: 1,535
Re: Answer here!!!

Almost good, I had a 18-200mmVR in red, but let's be honest about this.

Nikon should be more clear about this and put VR in red, and VRII in gold same with the cameranames there is no logic in it....
Why not give al amature camera's the Dxxxx name
Pro DX a Dxxx name and FX an Fxxx, FXxxx or Dx,Fx ???????
That makes sense for rest of world and not only for Nikon !!

Rumle wrote:

Read a few of the replies, and didnt find the right answer, so here it goes...

VR is indicated with VR having RED letters

VR II has GOLD letters

only exception is the 105mm and which has red lettering but does have VRII.

And if the first 18-200 had VRII that's an exception as well, they where the first ones to have VRII.

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westcoasthd
westcoasthd Contributing Member • Posts: 584
Re: Answer here!!!

There are just too many exceptions to try and come up with a general rule. The more important question I would think is to ask how VR works on different lenses. It is not correct to assume that all VR I modules work the same on all lenses that have that module and that all VR II work the same across all lenses, when in fact they do not. Some show more stabilization in the view finder, some are quiet, some are loud. Some will give you more equivalent stops just based on how easy it is to hand hold a particular lens. It's better to ask for a specific lens, which is the best version to purchase for the cost.

Mako2011
Mako2011 Forum Pro • Posts: 20,268
Well said
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westcoasthd wrote:

There are just too many exceptions to try and come up with a general rule. The more important question I would think is to ask how VR works on different lenses. It is not correct to assume that all VR I modules work the same on all lenses that have that module and that all VR II work the same across all lenses, when in fact they do not. Some show more stabilization in the view finder, some are quiet, some are loud. Some will give you more equivalent stops just based on how easy it is to hand hold a particular lens. It's better to ask for a specific lens, which is the best version to purchase for the cost.

I would have to completely agree.

Ilkka Nissilä Veteran Member • Posts: 4,107
Re: VR & VR 2 How to know which it is.

All the VR 70-300's have VR II. The distinction between the two VR systems is not marked on the lens in any lens. When a lens is marked "II" or "III" it is the second and third version of that lens, but which version of VR is included you have to go to the manual or Nikon specs to find out.

ComputerDork Regular Member • Posts: 225
18-200 Availability?

Does anyone know when the "Nikon 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G AF-S ED DX VR II" will be shipping to the US again?

Rumle
Rumle Senior Member • Posts: 1,428
Re: Answer here!!!

westcoasthd wrote:

There are just too many exceptions to try and come up with a general rule. The more important question I would think is to ask how VR works on different lenses. It is not correct to assume that all VR I modules work the same on all lenses that have that module and that all VR II work the same across all lenses, when in fact they do not. Some show more stabilization in the view finder, some are quiet, some are loud. Some will give you more equivalent stops just based on how easy it is to hand hold a particular lens. It's better to ask for a specific lens, which is the best version to purchase for the cost.

yah yah, I see I was wrong. but then everything released after 2006 has vr2

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io_bg
io_bg Regular Member • Posts: 196
Re: Answer here!!!

I think VR II lenses have an Active/Normal VR switch while VR I lenses don't (for example 18-105mm). I'm not 100% sure if that's correct though.

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digitalphotographer Contributing Member • Posts: 639
Can't tell via EXIF either!

Long time ago I had the 18-200mm VR 1, until some point a couple of years ago, sold the original and upgraded to VR2.

But looking at the EXIF data, I can't tell which them apart! I had assumed for the longest time EXIF data would show a distinction, but Lightroom, View NX and Capture NX are reporting all of them as "VR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G"!

How is it possible? Is there a way to tell?

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Patco Forum Pro • Posts: 12,263
Re: Can't tell via EXIF either!

digitalphotographer wrote:

Long time ago I had the 18-200mm VR 1, until some point a couple of years ago, sold the original and upgraded to VR2.

Hope you didn't upgrade just for the VR - both the original 18-200 and the "II" version have VRII.

But looking at the EXIF data, I can't tell which them apart! I had assumed for the longest time EXIF data would show a distinction, but Lightroom, View NX and Capture NX are reporting all of them as "VR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G"!

How is it possible? Is there a way to tell?

Sure - just read Nikon's specs posted on their site - there is no need for the EXIF info to indicate which VR version, as they are both the same:

Original version:
"AF-S DX VR Zoom-Nikkor 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED"
"Enhanced Vibration Reduction (VRII) offers the equivalent of using a shutter
speed 4 stops faster"

http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/zoom/normalzoom/af-s_dx_vr_zoom18-200mmf_35-56g_if/index.htm

Second version:
"AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II"
"Built-in Vibration Reduction (VR II)"

http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/zoom/normalzoom/af-s_dx_18-200mmf_35-56g_ed_vr2/index.htm

A cynic might say Nikon moved the "VR" part of the name to the end before tacking on the "II" to mislead people into thinking the VR has been updated

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Leonard Shepherd
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Re: VR & VR 2 How to know which it is.

As already mentioned there is only 1 VR version of this lens.
Another Nikon web site confirming the VR is the II version is

http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/zoom/telephotozoom/af-s_vr_zoom70-300mmf_45-56g_if/index.htm
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Re: VR & VR 2 How to know which it is.
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