Why the hell do I log onto Rockwell?

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Feud Regular Member • Posts: 128
Why the hell do I log onto Rockwell?

I've just been doing the rounds of all the D800 reviews. Some very good information out there. DPR have their usual excellent in depth coverage; Cameralabs have posted some good samples; DXO have analysed the sensor half to death and imagingresource have posted their excellent standard shots.

But why, why, why, in the name of all that's holy, do I still log on to read Rockwell's inconsistent, arrogant, ill-informed babble? One minute the D800 is fabulous, the next minute, he's bemoaning its limitations and whining on about it.

Never again!

The first rule of "No Rockwell Club" is we do not talk about "No Rockwell Club."

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u007 Senior Member • Posts: 1,681
Re: Why the hell do I log onto Rockwell?

I think it's good for what it is.

He's not super technical, but he's good at pointing out common day problems with the camera like the 5d3 cluster of AF points blocking the view of your subject, or having three custom setups on the mode dial etc.

He's good for the other side of the story imo

user_name Veteran Member • Posts: 3,134
Sounds like a personal problem.

Did you want to discuss this in private?

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Jan Morales Regular Member • Posts: 335
user_name to the rescue

Wherever Ken Rockwell's honor is besmirched, user_name appears to defend it.

Dan DeLion Contributing Member • Posts: 542
Ken, The Bloviator!

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Rockwell's standards are low and variable. One may like or not like what he writes but, the sensible thing is to not pay any heed to his bloviations.
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SergioSpain Contributing Member • Posts: 509
Re: Why the hell do I log onto Rockwell?

Some of his reviews are good, but when he says things like the D800 is Nikon's best camera ever without even having tested it, he loses a lot of credibility. And he definitely does come off a bit arrogant at times.

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xrdbear Veteran Member • Posts: 3,885
Re: Why the hell do I log onto Rockwell?

Because you want to post a thread to bad mouth him?
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Feud OP Regular Member • Posts: 128
Re: Why the hell do I log onto Rockwell?

I suppose I shouldn't be so churlish, really. He strikes me as decent sort under the bluster, but it's the inconsistency that drives me crackers. I find myself spending more time on the Luminous Landscape and looking at the likes of Bruce Percy's super work these days.

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archer69 Senior Member • Posts: 1,253
Re: "Rockwell's standards" ...

Standards?

What standards? He doesn't have any.

Dan DeLion wrote:

Rockwell's standards are low and variable.

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Feud OP Regular Member • Posts: 128
Re: "Rockwell's standards" ...

Anyway, the D800 looks like a beautiful machine and I've learned enough to know that I'm probably going to buy one in due course.

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user_name Veteran Member • Posts: 3,134
Re: user_name to the rescue

This is not so much a defense of Ken as much as an observation of absurdity.

The original post bemoans continuously going to KR site and finding it distasteful. Which begs the question, if you don't like what is in your glass, why did you keep refilling it with the same?

I would be happy to see someone post an argument or rebuttal to someone's blog and at least cite where the poster has differences and why. However, to just keep moaning is meaningless and boring. I just feel that Feud could do better.

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CFynn Veteran Member • Posts: 5,224
Re: Why the hell do I log onto Rockwell?

Entertainment?

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caribou Senior Member • Posts: 1,029
Re: Why the hell do I log onto Rockwell?

I go there for the jokes!
The guys a comedian.

Feud OP Regular Member • Posts: 128
Re: Why the hell do I log onto Rockwell?

He obviously likes his photography, so as I've already said, I shouldn't be so churlish, but it just struck me he went from besotted to bored with his new D800 in the space of a single article; and bad-mouthing the D7000, a camera he has constantly enthused about, irritated me. I have a D7000 and must say as a creative tool, it's fabulous. Hey ho. I guess it's all part of his controversial style. Fair play.

Feud OP Regular Member • Posts: 128
Re: Why the hell do I log onto Rockwell?

I think you're right, Caribou. That's the spirit, I guess.

Julian Vrieslander Contributing Member • Posts: 974
Re: Why the hell do I log onto Rockwell?

Every so often I read something of interest on Rockwell's site - but mostly it is blather and hyperbole. Sometimes I think the guy has ADHD. His opinions seem to change with the weather.

The most important thing to remember about his site is that he is trying to make money (to support his "growing family") by stoking his readers to buy the latest new thing, and getting them to click through the links on his pages to Amazon, Adorama, etc. He gets a small chunk of change from every click. This relationship should be obvious when he touts the special offers that he negotiates with some of these vendors.

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SiPat Contributing Member • Posts: 928
Re: Why the hell do I log onto Rockwell?

Feud wrote:

But why, why, why, in the name of all that's holy, do I still log on to read Rockwell's inconsistent, arrogant, ill-informed babble?

You can visit KR's website but you most definitely cannot log on to it...

Anyway, Ken Rockwell's become an obsession with some people and been done to death on DPR:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1021&message=41102326

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1021&thread=41088420

Rockwell has his head screwed on just right -- after all, they do say there's no such thing as bad publicity:

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/there-is-no-such-thing-as-bad-publicity.html

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Whois Contributing Member • Posts: 588
Re: Why the hell do I log onto Rockwell?

I used to keep going to his site for the entertainment but it eventually became more irritating than entertaining and with no information value. That's when I stopped looking. Haven't been back in at least a year and haven't missed it at all.

golf1982 Contributing Member • Posts: 744
Re: Ken, The Bloviator!

Dan DeLion wrote:

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Rockwell's standards are low and variable. One may like or not like what he writes but, the sensible thing is to not pay any heed to his bloviations.
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This is the same Rockwell who claims he uses his 5D3 on medium quality 8mp JPEG, to make 24 inch prints!!!

Apart from his begging, my principle issue with him is that he states badly biased opinion as fact, giving bad advice to inexperienced / new photographers.

golf1982 Contributing Member • Posts: 744
Re: Ken, The Bloviator!

Dan DeLion wrote:

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Rockwell's standards are low and variable. One may like or not like what he writes but, the sensible thing is to not pay any heed to his bloviations.
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This is the same Rockwell who claims he uses his 5D3 on medium quality 8mp JPEG, to make 24 inch prints!!!

Apart from his begging, my principle issue with him is that he states badly biased opinion as fact, giving bad advice to inexperienced / new photographers.

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