5dmk3 and 5dmk2 pictures (different AA-filter)

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Mikael Risedal
Mikael Risedal Veteran Member • Posts: 4,275
5dmk3 and 5dmk2 pictures (different AA-filter)

I see no difference in resolution between 5dmk3 and 5dmk2
but I do see a difference in moire, weaker aa filter in dmk3?

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hotdog321
hotdog321 Forum Pro • Posts: 15,977
Re: 5dmk3 and 5dmk2 pictures (different AA-filter)

Woah! If this is right, I'm sticking with my 5DII bodies!

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Erland Nielsen Regular Member • Posts: 487
moire is so sensitive to detail size vs sensor pitch...

that you need way more examples to conclude anything.

This example may just show that the higher pixel pitch of th 5DIII interfere more with the details than the 5DII.

maiaibing Veteran Member • Posts: 4,110
What I see...

...is no reason to "upgrade" to the 5Diii at this setting.

The two are very, very close. Forced to choose I think the 5Dii pic looks ever so extremely slightly better but it could just be at a random point in the picture I zoomed in on.

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Earthlight Veteran Member • Posts: 3,180
Clock face, which is which?

The right hand side crop is crisper. About equal detail.

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Osiris30 Senior Member • Posts: 2,804
Re: What I see...

Not sure how anyone can tell anything about detail without knowing focus details... OOF (even slightly) portions of the image wont' show any increase in detail. Especially when pixel peeping an area well off center of the lens where it would perform best.

maiaibing wrote:

...is no reason to "upgrade" to the 5Diii at this setting.

The two are very, very close. Forced to choose I think the 5Dii pic looks ever so extremely slightly better but it could just be at a random point in the picture I zoomed in on.

hotdog321
hotdog321 Forum Pro • Posts: 15,977
Re: Clock face, which is which?

Agree. That is the first thing I noticed--that the bricks and the clock actually looked a bit sharper in the 5DII sample. Not looking for a flame war here, just a truly objective opinion. Then I saw the moire in the blinds--this was all before I noticed which camera was which, so there is no emotional baggage coloring my perceptions.

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canes Regular Member • Posts: 389
Re: 5dmk3 and 5dmk2 pictures (different AA-filter)

Im seeing more detail/sharpening in the mk2... and also less moire.

nurf Junior Member • Posts: 26
Re: 5dmk3 and 5dmk2 pictures (different AA-filter)

Could you process the MIII photo with he new DLO feature and compare that too? Maybe its better then.

Mikael Risedal
Mikael Risedal OP Veteran Member • Posts: 4,275
Re: 5dmk3 and 5dmk2 pictures (different AA-filter)

I have 2 5dmk2 in my work and I find the new camera improved in many ways.
Both cameras handle the same way regarding shooting and in CR.

Montana500 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,094
5d II looks better.

No reason to upgrade for landscape/portrait.
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hotdog321
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Re: 5d II looks better.

+1. Certainly not for a $1,000 to $1,500 price bump! But some nice improvements for those shooting action.

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expro Senior Member • Posts: 1,313
Re: 5d II looks better.

just keep telling yourself that guys...

I have 7d, 5d2 and 5d3 for almost a week now

and both 7d and 5d2 have never left the camera bag..

in real life the 5d3 is simply better in every category...

but like the 5d to 5d2 upgrade was never accepted by many then this too will occur here

would only have changed your opinions if something incredible had happened like 45mp...something you guys can hang your hook on more than just viewing other people's photos...

I'm very happy !

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hotdog321
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Re: 5d II looks better.

Congats! I'd love to get my hands on a 5DIII!

Been using a couple of 5DII cameras since they came out and they are truly groundbreaking. Tough act to follow. I think everyone just expected another revolution instead of an evolution.

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Mikael Risedal
Mikael Risedal OP Veteran Member • Posts: 4,275
Re: 5d II looks better.

Resolution wise, it is difficult to see any difference except the difference in moire

expro wrote:

just keep telling yourself that guys...

I have 7d, 5d2 and 5d3 for almost a week now

and both 7d and 5d2 have never left the camera bag..

in real life the 5d3 is simply better in every category...

but like the 5d to 5d2 upgrade was never accepted by many then this too will occur here

would only have changed your opinions if something incredible had happened like 45mp...something you guys can hang your hook on more than just viewing other people's photos...

I'm very happy !

Steen Bay Veteran Member • Posts: 6,974
Re: 5dmk3 and 5dmk2 pictures (different AA-filter)

Mikael Risedal wrote:

I see no difference in resolution between 5dmk3 and 5dmk2
but I do see a difference in moire, weaker aa filter in dmk3?

5D2 vs. 5D3 (vs. D800) resolution test here :

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/03/d-resolution-tests/

Cipher Senior Member • Posts: 2,607
5D2 looks a bit sharper...

to my eyes...so wouldn't that mean it has a weaker AA filter in the 5D2?

expro Senior Member • Posts: 1,313
Re: 5d II looks better.

I didn't expect any difference in resolution..just expected the results to 'look' better through a combination of better sensor, new electronics and great AF.. which I definitely got.

What I didn't expect was much better colour...as I didn't think there was much wrong with my profiled 5d2... but actually there is a significant improvement between my 5d2 and my 5d3 beyond a side by side comparison..it's just obvious...even my wife spotted it and keeps asking what I've done to improve my photos...I haven't told here it's a new camera!

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steve ohlhaber Regular Member • Posts: 448
Re: 5d II looks better.

expro wrote:

I didn't expect any difference in resolution..just expected the results to 'look' better through a combination of better sensor, new electronics and great AF.. which I definitely got.

What I didn't expect was much better colour...as I didn't think there was much wrong with my profiled 5d2... but actually there is a significant improvement between my 5d2 and my 5d3 beyond a side by side comparison..it's just obvious...even my wife spotted it and keeps asking what I've done to improve my photos...I haven't told here it's a new camera!

Post some samples. I would love to see color and dynamic differences. The resolution we know is the same. Make my mind up, I cant decide.

wolfpuppies3 Senior Member • Posts: 1,747
The reasons to upgrade are not resolution

They are frame rate and focusing points, to name but a few. If it ever gets here, my 5DIII will complement my 5DII and 1DIII as well.
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