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Hello,

Help! I got totally overwhelmed while starting to look for photo paper. I had no idea there were so many options.
Is there any comprehensive guide, or anything I could start with?

Thank you!
Simone
 
what type of printer and what size?
 
If you want really high quality semi-gloss paper, then use
Moab Lasal Exhibition Luster 300.

If you want good high gloss, Canon Pro Platinum is excellent.

You will find as many opinions on paper as there are posters here..
 
I may get flamed for this, but don't sweat the paper. Frame your photos, stand back 2 feet, and no one will know which brand or type of paper they were printed on.

Now if you are selling prints, that is a completely different story. Knowledgable print buyers expect status brands (Hahnemuhle, for example) fine-art papers. Also, people using dye printers are usually best off staying with their ink-makers recommended papers. Otherwise get what looks good to you.

There is something analogous to pixel peeping that goes on with the paper compulsives, those who put their eyeballs an inch from the surface, smell the stuff, hold it at odd angles under intense lights, and perform other strange antics that people looking at photographs don't normally do.

Sure there are differences. If you pay a nickel a sheet you're probably buying junk, but it is not necessary to spring $2+ for a single 8x10 sheet to get good stuff. The vast middle ground from about $0.20 to $1.00 per contains loads of fine papers in a variety of surfaces.

There are basically two kinds of surfaces, matte and glossy. Manufacturers divide glossy into degrees of shine and call them things like luster, semi-gloss, silk, etc, but all of them can reflect glare. Avoid any chance of glare (also called "specular reflection") by buying matte paper. The downside of matte is blacks are not quite so black as on the glossy types. A plus is you can sign your nake in pencil right on the print.

Most of us settle on 1 or two types and love it until another pretty face comes along. Keep in mind that for every paper you print on you'll want to have an accurate profile so your prints look like what you see on your calibrated monitor.

Everyone has their favorites. My current fav matte is Epson Premium presentation Paper -Matte. It's cheap at $0.20/sheet (8 1/2 x 11"), and produces vivid sharp images. My "good" paper is Ilford Gallerie Gold Fiber Silk (or whatever they call it these days). It is a warm toned paper, which I like, has a very subdued sheen, and yields extremely vivid prints. It is a very heavy weight paper, which seems to impress people who like to pick up and heft unframed prints.It does scratch easily though. Those sheets cost me about $1.00 in 8 1/2 x 11.

Having said that, there are probably ten other mattes, and ten other low-sheen gloss papers that I could use just as well as "my" two.

My advice: pick one matte and one glossy from the major paper vendors that are priced comfortably and readily available to you. Make sure the maker offers downloadable profiles for your printer, and stay with them untill your tastes change. Concentrate more on your photography then your paper choice.
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BTW My current two favorite papers are: Epson Exhibition Fiber(glossy) and Epson's new Hot Press(matte). I print with the Epson R3000. The Hot Press is excellent for BW. I do exhibit and sell at our local Art Guild. The largest that I print is 12x18 photo size. I have an Olympus E-30. Like the gentleman said above you step back 2' and judge form there.
TomW(ret)
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...a bad picture is like a missed putt, it's never your fault.
 
Help! I got totally overwhelmed while starting to look for photo paper. I had no idea there were so many options.
Is there any comprehensive guide, or anything I could start with?
There is no guide because it is really such a personal thing. It is also an image thing, in that an image may work better with one paper than another.

First you have a choice between photo type papers and fine art papers. Photo paper come in gloss and photo matte (lustre, pearl, etc) and fine art paper papers ranging from gloss to textured watercolor paper – photo matte generally being glossier than fine art gloss.

As some one else suggested, buy a few sample packs or A4 or US letter sized papers. There are high end papers from Hahnemühle, Harman (distributed by Hahnemühle) Canson-Infinity, Moab, and Epson’s ‘Signature Ready’ paper. There are mid to low range papers from the paper convertors like Red River.

http://www.itsupplies.com/Samples

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?atclk=Type%2fStyle_Sampler&ci=1118&N=4288586586+4294954869

Papers that work for me:
  • Photo Gloss: Harman Gloss Baryta 320 g/m² – wonderful paper, nice weight and feel, different surface to any other gloss on the market. (Formally known as Harman Gloss FB Al)
  • Photo Lustre pulp base: Canson Baryta Photographique 310 g/m²
  • Photo Lustre cotton rag base: Canson Platine Fibre Rag 310 g/m²
  • Fine Art Smooth: Canson Rag Photographique 310 g/m². Hahnemühle Photo Rag is more popular, but see Eric Chan’s notes (link below).
  • Fine Art Fine Texture: Hahnemühle German Etching 310gsm. Epson Velvet Fine Art is another good fine texture paper. At 240 g/m² it is a little lightweight for my printing needs, but may but should be good for a smaller printer like the 2200.
  • Fine Art Watercolor: Canson Montval Aquarelle 310 g/m²
  • Fine Art ‘Glossy’: Museo Silver Rag 310 g/m². Epson Exhibition Fibre is also a fine paper, but the surface is a little too fragile for me.
  • I also use Red River ‘Linen’ 240 g/m², which is great for greeting cards, invitations, etc.
You may want to take a peek at Eric Chan’s site. He is a color scientist working for Adobe/MIT who uses Epson printers:
http://people.csail.mit.edu/ericchan/dp/Epson3800/papers.html

Brian A
 
Since you seem to be a newbie for high-quality printing, and since you have an Epson printer, if I were you I'd start out with the Epson papers. Far and away the most popular photo printing paper for Epsons is Luster--not too glossy but still a glossy photo paper that brings out most of the detail. For a matte paper, try the Ultra Premium Matte. Both these papers are reasonably priced, easy to use on your machine, and capable of producing very high quality images. The step up to Epson Exhibition or Canson Baryta or Velvet very quickly doubles or triples the price of you paper and is really only necessary if you want to make professional/art prints.

Once you get the hang of it, then you can experiment with the many fine non-epson papers and papers with interesting properties and textures. Personally I love Baryta papers for a glossy look and rag and textured paper for an arty look. Just printed several hundred cards on gorgeous Museo cotton rag stock and the compliments and follow-up sales are pretty amazing.
 
Excellent advice as I use both papers are my primary papers:

MOAB exhibition has proven to be world-class. I have found, surprisingly, that if I set the printer to high gloss with it that the output is amazing.

Pro Platinum by Canon is like printing on glass.. and makes clients very happy.

Both are semi-expensive but worth the cost.
 
Many excellent suggestions here.

Another angle to consider is the longevity of the paper and coatings.

Papers with OBAs (optical brightening agents) generally have very bright, even bluish, whites. But OBAs fade over the years and if you frame with a UV protectant glazing, that blocks the UV rays that activate the OBAs. so the print will look different under glass than in your hand.

And then there is buffering and lignin in the base stock - you want buffering, you don't want lignin.

It is complicated and you'll need to get to work on Google to find references.

I will often check these:



 

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