Off-camera flash on Canon 550D ?

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ipsearch Forum Member • Posts: 58
Off-camera flash on Canon 550D ?

Hi there

Can I operate off-camera flash with Canon 550D. Do i have to run cable or does Canon 550D have some wireless capabilities to control Canon Speedlite 580EX II.

Thanks

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confyushis Senior Member • Posts: 1,070
cord or wireless transmitter ... both sold separately (n/t)

ipsearch wrote:

Hi there

Can I operate off-camera flash with Canon 550D. Do i have to run cable or does Canon 550D have some wireless capabilities to control Canon Speedlite 580EX II.

Thanks

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Re: Off-camera flash on Canon 550D ?

I've added a How can I use my external flash off the camera? section to the unofficial Rebel forum FAQ - http://snipurl.com/RebelFAQ . Let me know if it works for you.

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Y0GI Veteran Member • Posts: 5,228
Re: Off-camera flash on Canon 550D ?

I bought the Yongnuo RF 602 remote trigger system. It works well but the flash is manual only - no ETTL. The RF 602 also works as a remote shutter release if you order the right cable to go with it.
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Amateur Hour New Member • Posts: 16
Re: Off-camera flash on Canon 550D ?

Unless I'm mistaken, the 550d doesn't have the built-in wireless control. In that case, if you're looking for full TTL remote flash capability. You'll need a remote flash controller - either a 580EX II or an ST-E2 remote flash controller. You can get an ST-E2 quite inexpensively off of eBay - especially the Yongnuo ones. Of course, you'll need a compatible flash, any of the Canon EX series flashes will do. The Yongnuo 565EX goes for as little as $149, and it's fully compatible with Canon compatible wireless controllers. (It's is not a master controller though - only a slave like the 430ex II).

There are also a few non-optical full TTL wireless solutions. There's the Pixel King; Pocket Wizard has one, and Phottix has one also. None of these solutions are cheap though.

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Re: Off-camera flash on Canon 550D ?

I use the Yongnuo ST-E2 on my 50D for off camera flash and found it to work very well thus far. Got it off $bay for about $110. For less $$$ you can use a off camera cord.

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ipsearch OP Forum Member • Posts: 58
Re: Off-camera flash on Canon 550D ?

So I can use Canon 580EX II and it will work off camera and does not require any cable but will trigger via Canon 550D ?

I dont want to use the camera flash, but use only external flash.

Cheers

Amateur Hour wrote:

Unless I'm mistaken, the 550d doesn't have the built-in wireless control. In that case, if you're looking for full TTL remote flash capability. You'll need a remote flash controller - either a 580EX II or an ST-E2 remote flash controller. You can get an ST-E2 quite inexpensively off of eBay - especially the Yongnuo ones. Of course, you'll need a compatible flash, any of the Canon EX series flashes will do. The Yongnuo 565EX goes for as little as $149, and it's fully compatible with Canon compatible wireless controllers. (It's is not a master controller though - only a slave like the 430ex II).

There are also a few non-optical full TTL wireless solutions. There's the Pixel King; Pocket Wizard has one, and Phottix has one also. None of these solutions are cheap though.

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Canon 580ex won't work off camera, you're not understanding this correctly

ipsearch wrote:

So I can use Canon 580EX II and it will work off camera and does not require any cable but will trigger via Canon 550D ?

Give it up, Canon 550d simply doesn't have the HARDWARE to do wireless flash. If you want Wireless, consider buying either the cheap CATUS (PT04) on ebay or the more elegant but expensive Canon ST controlller.

Canon 550d cannot wireless-ly sent flash signal to 580ex II. What he is talking about is that you must buy 2 SEPARATE FLASH :

  • Canon 580ex II flash ATTACHED onto your Canon T2i, which allow it to sent wireless signal to

  • cheaper and smaller flashes like 430ex, 430ex2, or 320ex

  • but you still need to ATTACHED a 580ex Flash ($400) on top of your Canon T2i.

If you analyzed the entire cost (buying 2 flashes, or buying expensive ST2), it is actually much cheaper to sell your Canon T2i and buy a Canon T3i. That is the conclusion I reached after looking at my wireless option for my Canon T1i

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ipsearch OP Forum Member • Posts: 58
Re: Canon 580ex won't work off camera, you're not understanding this correctly

Hi Peter

Thanks for the reply, I will need to be contend with operating off camera cables via cables only.

I cannot justify myself spending money to get new camera just to trigger wireless flash. Would go for new lenses rather .

Do you recommend to buy canon 580EX II or some third party flash. I need flash for portrait photography.

Cheers

Cheers

007peter wrote:

ipsearch wrote:

So I can use Canon 580EX II and it will work off camera and does not require any cable but will trigger via Canon 550D ?

Give it up, Canon 550d simply doesn't have the HARDWARE to do wireless flash. If you want Wireless, consider buying either the cheap CATUS (PT04) on ebay or the more elegant but expensive Canon ST controlller.

Canon 550d cannot wireless-ly sent flash signal to 580ex II. What he is talking about is that you must buy 2 SEPARATE FLASH :

  • Canon 580ex II flash ATTACHED onto your Canon T2i, which allow it to sent wireless signal to

  • cheaper and smaller flashes like 430ex, 430ex2, or 320ex

  • but you still need to ATTACHED a 580ex Flash ($400) on top of your Canon T2i.

If you analyzed the entire cost (buying 2 flashes, or buying expensive ST2), it is actually much cheaper to sell your Canon T2i and buy a Canon T3i. That is the conclusion I reached after looking at my wireless option for my Canon T1i

wave01 Regular Member • Posts: 322
Re: Canon 580ex won't work off camera, you're not understanding this correctly

hi the 550d/t2i cannot trigger a flash remotely.

what you need is a a trigger that sits on your camera and a receiver that will sit on your flash. that way you can remote trigger the flash.

what you will find is the cheap ones dont ettl so you have to use them manually, also you will have to check if they are compatible with the flash you have or will buy.

007peter
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does anyone know if you can trigger flash with CABLE?

ipsearch wrote:

Hi Peter Thanks for the reply, I will need to be contend with operating off camera cables via cables only.

Hum.... Does anyone know if Rebel can even trigger a remote flash via cable?

I could be wrong, but I believe you need a PC-SYNC port to do cable-wired-flash. I have not investigated that option so I cannot say with 100% certainty, but I'm pretty sure that you need a pc-sync port to do that.

The cheapest option is the cheap Ebay Catus PT-04, but it not elegant. For me, I don't want to carry 6-8 pack AA. Let see

  • 2xAA for Catus Master attach to your 550d

  • 2xAA for Catus Receiver to trigger remote flash

  • 4xAA for your Canon Flash

In my experience, AA are troublesome. All it take is one bad AA, and the performance of flash suffers. The last time I investigate into wireless flash, my final conclusion is that the total cost of setup, the pain of setting them up, plus no eTTL support , and the hassel of manually setting all flash setting correctly.....

The easist and the most elegant solution is for me to sell my Canon T1i and buy a Canon T3i. The difference in selling T1i and buying T3i is about $250, which is in the same ball pack as a Canon ST-02 receiver.

The best wireless option are also the most expensive. Pocket Wizard is simply the best, most elegant, and most useful. But the entire setup will cost you north of $300-$400. So, I"m back to selling T1i and buying T3i again.

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Y0GI Veteran Member • Posts: 5,228
Re: Canon 580ex won't work off camera, you're not understanding this correctly

ipsearch wrote:

Do you recommend to buy canon 580EX II or some third party flash. I need flash for portrait photography.

The Canon 580 EX II or the 430 EX II would be the best. You can save a lot by buying used. I picked up a used 580 EX II off Craigslist for $300. It was in like new condition and I have been very satisfied with it. There is not much to wear out on a flash, but I would think twice before buying from a pro wedding photog. The used 580 EX I and 430 EX I are additional cost saving options. Even a used 550 EX is a good option to consider.

There are some pretty good third party options, like the Nissin DI 622 II or Nissin DI 866 II. Check this website for reviews and feature comparisons: http://speedlights.net/compare-speedlight-specs/?model=580EX+II&model2=Di866+Mark+II

Yongnuo is a Chinese company that makes cheap flashes: http://speedlights.net/2011/08/28/yongnuo-yn-565-ex-flash-review/ You might want to consider one of these also.

Good luck!

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membervarun New Member • Posts: 23
Re: Canon 580ex won't work off camera, you're not understanding this correctly

hey guys,

I have Canon 550D. I am looking to buy a flash (580ex II) and want to trigger remotely, the above flash which will be off camera, as slave. The master will be the canon default flash which comes with the 550d body.

I might need a Yongsou type receiver?

So net net, would 1) buying the 580EX-II , 2) Yongsou receiver/transmitter and 3) Canon RC-6
to trigger the shoot work?

thnks.

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Re: Canon 580ex won't work off camera, you're not understanding this correctly

membervarun wrote:

hey guys,

I have Canon 550D. I am looking to buy a flash (580ex II) and want to trigger remotely, the above flash which will be off camera, as slave. The master will be the canon default flash which comes with the 550d body.

The built-in flash on the 550D has NO master flash capabilities. Furthermore, if you mount a radio trigger in the hotshoe this will disable the built-in flash.

I might need a Yongsou type receiver?

Yes, I would say so.

So net net, would 1) buying the 580EX-II , 2) Yongsou receiver/transmitter and 3) Canon RC-6
to trigger the shoot work?

I can't see any reason it would not work, within the constraints noted above. Some Rebels have a problem with external flash triggers when shooting in Live View, but I can't recall which ones.

thnks.

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photonius Veteran Member • Posts: 6,506
Re: does anyone know if you can trigger flash with CABLE?

007peter wrote:

ipsearch wrote:

Hi Peter Thanks for the reply, I will need to be contend with operating off camera cables via cables only.

Hum.... Does anyone know if Rebel can even trigger a remote flash via cable?

I could be wrong, but I believe you need a PC-SYNC port to do cable-wired-flash. I have not investigated that option so I cannot say with 100% certainty, but I'm pretty sure that you need a pc-sync port to do that.

You can from the hot-shoe. There are good cables available on ebay really cheap.

The cheapest option is the cheap Ebay Catus PT-04, but it not elegant. For me, I don't want to carry 6-8 pack AA. Let see

  • 2xAA for Catus Master attach to your 550d

  • 2xAA for Catus Receiver to trigger remote flash

  • 4xAA for your Canon Flash

In my experience, AA are troublesome. All it take is one bad AA, and the performance of flash suffers. The last time I investigate into wireless flash, my final conclusion is that the total cost of setup, the pain of setting them up, plus no eTTL support , and the hassel of manually setting all flash setting correctly.....

The easist and the most elegant solution is for me to sell my Canon T1i and buy a Canon T3i. The difference in selling T1i and buying T3i is about $250, which is in the same ball pack as a Canon ST-02 receiver.

The best wireless option are also the most expensive. Pocket Wizard is simply the best, most elegant, and most useful. But the entire setup will cost you north of $300-$400. So, I"m back to selling T1i and buying T3i again.

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Re: Canon 580ex won't work off camera, you're not understanding this correctly

membervarun wrote:

hey guys,

I have Canon 550D. I am looking to buy a flash (580ex II) and want to trigger remotely, the above flash which will be off camera, as slave. The master will be the canon default flash which comes with the 550d body.

I think this is a problem. I have looked at this and it does not seem to work.

The only place to capture any flash signal is in the hot shoe. But if something (extension cable, wireless transmitter) is in the hot shoe, the internal flash will not pop-up. It's just a mechanical switch (I put once a plastic hot-shoe cover in there, and the flash didn't work). So, you probably have to get an extra flash.

I had an old optical remote flash trigger, but neither my external 430 EX II, nor my old Vivitar 283) was reliably triggered by this with the internall 550D flash.

I might need a Yongsou type receiver?

So net net, would 1) buying the 580EX-II , 2) Yongsou receiver/transmitter and 3) Canon RC-6
to trigger the shoot work?

thnks.

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luffy27 New Member • Posts: 1
Re: Off-camera flash on Canon 550D ?
you canot use off camera flash on 550d because it does not have Integrated Speedlite Transmitter, but there's an option. You can use canon 580ex II as a master and then you can now use other flash a slave.
Pitbullo Regular Member • Posts: 480
Re: Off-camera flash on Canon 550D ?

I have the same gear as you, and off camera flash require some extra hardware. This summer I bought Yongnuo YN622c wireless trancievers. Cheap, easy to use and full ETTL. Run and buy!!! I use them (bought two pairs) to control three flashes, all controlled through the LCD/menu in camera.

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Re: Off-camera flash on Canon 550D ?

Pitbullo wrote:

I have the same gear as you, and off camera flash require some extra hardware. This summer I bought Yongnuo YN622c wireless trancievers. Cheap, easy to use and full ETTL. Run and buy!!! I use them (bought two pairs) to control three flashes, all controlled through the LCD/menu in camera.

Which 3 flashes? I have a Metz 44 AF which is E-TTL with my 550D in hot shoe or with cable, but am looking for off camera E-TTL in 2 or more flashes but am not sure if I can use the Metz....

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Creativjoos New Member • Posts: 4
YN-560EX Most affordable solution - $75-$90 TTL off-camera only

Yongnuo 560EX. Not to be confused with yongnuo 560, 560ii, or 560iii. I believe the 560ex is newer than those. The 560ex is not capable of e-ttl on camera ( only manual mode on camera) but - used off camera, it can do e-ttl in conjunction with a wireless transmitter such as canon St-e2 or youngnuo's st-e2.

I just received a 560Ex today, paid $75.00 from a U.S. Seller, new/unused. I have a canon T2i/550D.

My only only question is if this flash can be used with radio triggers (yn602 or 603) or if it only responds to infared signals (St-e2) would the St-e2 struggle in outdoor environment?

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