5D III sample... a bad joke?

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KLO82 Senior Member • Posts: 1,043
5D III sample... a bad joke?

Look at the "details" of ISO 100 photo. This photo should be removed from their website.

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PhotonCanvas Regular Member • Posts: 181
Re: 5D III sample... a bad joke?

Very true. These examples are quite bad. I assume it is bad processing... Sure, the sensor may have better noise performance, but a MkIII needs more than that. I bet Canon will learn the lesson and a killer 30+Mpixel sensor will be here in a year or so.

Great Bustard Forum Pro • Posts: 40,875
Except by then...

PhotonCanvas wrote:

Very true. These examples are quite bad. I assume it is bad processing... Sure, the sensor may have better noise performance, but a MkIII needs more than that. I bet Canon will learn the lesson and a killer 30+Mpixel sensor will be here in a year or so.

...many former Canon owners will be shooting with the D800.

studio311 Contributing Member • Posts: 553
Re: 5D III sample... a bad joke?

The iceberg shot at 6400 is horrible...imho. NR gone wild.

mclaren777
mclaren777 Regular Member • Posts: 230
Re: Except by then...

Great Bustard wrote:

...many former Canon owners will be shooting with the D800.

And equally as many former Nikon owners will be shooting with the 5D3. What's your point?

Seaclam Senior Member • Posts: 1,703
Re: Except by then...

His point is, the camera is a 5D2n and whatever updates that have been done should and could technically have been on the 5D2 years ago. This camera doesn't deserve the Mk3 moniker nor the asking price.

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mclaren777
mclaren777 Regular Member • Posts: 230
Re: Except by then...

Seaclam wrote:

This camera doesn't deserve the Mk3 moniker nor the asking price.

It would be hard for me to disagree more. I think Canon went above and beyond with the 5D3 and I look forward to owning one someday.

This is about as close to my ideal camera as any company has ever gotten.

Compact40MP Regular Member • Posts: 171
Re: Except by then...

This is going to be very good camera, that's for sure. But, it looks like Canon let me down. I'm studio photographer looking for extra detail and sharpness expected in D800E camera. But, maybe Canon is right if their message is - that's an area of photography that is reserved for medium format. We are giving up, we just can't compete with medium format.

Skip M Veteran Member • Posts: 7,174
Re: Except by then...

Seaclam wrote:

His point is, the camera is a 5D2n and whatever updates that have been done should and could technically have been on the 5D2 years ago. This camera doesn't deserve the Mk3 moniker nor the asking price.

All the 5D mkII offered vis a vis the 5D was more pixels and video/live view, the latter not a big deal to still photographers. Same body, same AF, same metering, same everything. This camera changes everything except the pixel count. New AF, new metering, new body, so why not the different designation? The comments that it's like the 1D mkIIn are way off, that camera's sole contribution to the lineage was a larger rear LCD...

dominikov Senior Member • Posts: 1,175
Re: Except by then...

mclaren777 wrote:

Great Bustard wrote:

...many former Canon owners will be shooting with the D800.

And equally as many former Nikon owners will be shooting with the 5D3. What's your point?

The most compelling reason to jump ship to Canon was the 5Dmk2 while Nikon offered nothing over 12mp for under $8000. That's no longer the case.

The price is the biggest disappointment. There isn't one compelling feature that justifies a $500 premium over the D800.

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Gearóid Ó Laoi, Garry Lee Veteran Member • Posts: 6,151
Re: Except by then...

Compact40MP wrote:

This is going to be very good camera, that's for sure. But, it looks like Canon let me down. I'm studio photographer looking for extra detail and sharpness expected in D800E camera.

Some facts.

If you DOUBLE the megapixel count, you will see a slight difference in detail or sharpness to the naked eye, or maybe not. It's subtle.

If you quadruple the megapixel count it will be obvious.

The 1Div has 16mp. I've a 20 x 30 inch finely detailed enlargement on my wall at which everyone is stunned.
What are you going on about?

I have a 1Dsiii and can SEE no difference.

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bobn2
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Re: Except by then...

mclaren777 wrote:

Great Bustard wrote:

...many former Canon owners will be shooting with the D800.

And equally as many former Nikon owners will be shooting with the 5D3. What's your point?

Why would they.

Spend $500 more and make a loss on their lenses for a camera with a sole advantage of one extra FPS (D800 will do 5FPS without grip at 25MP). So, why is anyone in their right mind going to switch in that direction?
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Chez Wimpy
Chez Wimpy Veteran Member • Posts: 8,924
Re: Except by then...

mclaren777 wrote:

Seaclam wrote:

This camera doesn't deserve the Mk3 moniker nor the asking price.

It would be hard for me to disagree more. I think Canon went above and beyond with the 5D3 and I look forward to owning one someday.

For $3500 almost four years later ? I don't know what you are shooting, but for people/landscape/wedding/graduations ect (and the buffer being what it is) I never ran into the wall with the 4fps on the 5D2. Much better for sports even than my 20D which seems to lockup every 6 frames to clean the buffer. Always managed with the central focus point or LV @ 100%. I suppose 50+ focus points is "a nice thing to have," but like ISO1000000 (ISO6400 is darker than I can see with a f1.4 prime), barely impacts on a lot of styles of photography.

I have been busy stitching images in the meantime, I was just hoping for more resolution in a single shot. So for me, this is a huge (4 years coming) disappointment.

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Blaize Regular Member • Posts: 374
Re: 5D III sample... a bad joke?

" Very true. These examples are quite bad. I assume it is bad processing... Sure, the sensor may have better noise performance, but a MkIII needs more than that. I bet Canon will learn the lesson and a killer 30+Mpixel sensor will be here in a year or so. "

  • then you can bet on a truly killer price!!

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Skip M Veteran Member • Posts: 7,174
Re: Except by then...

bobn2 wrote:

mclaren777 wrote:

Great Bustard wrote:

...many former Canon owners will be shooting with the D800.

And equally as many former Nikon owners will be shooting with the 5D3. What's your point?

Why would they.

Spend $500 more and make a loss on their lenses for a camera with a sole advantage of one extra FPS (D800 will do 5FPS without grip at 25MP). So, why is anyone in their right mind going to switch in that direction?
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Or the other direction, either. I'll lose more than the $1000 (two cameras) difference in lens and auxiliary gear sales if I switched, and all I'd get is a camera with more pixels. Not a good move from this side, either.
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Gearóid Ó Laoi, Garry Lee wrote:

Some facts.

If you DOUBLE the megapixel count, you will see a slight difference in detail or sharpness to the naked eye, or maybe not. It's subtle.

You can also "double" the print size without pixel interpolation (A1-> A0 for example). That impact - in galleries - is more than subtle.

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cs hauser Contributing Member • Posts: 735
That was shot on f/16

KLO82 wrote:

Look at the "details" of ISO 100 photo. This photo should be removed from their website.

That particular photo was exposed at f/16... which is waaaaaaay past the point of diffraction. The D800E would look even worse if it was shot under those conditions.

Canon needs to fire whoever is responsible for choosing samples for their website.

studio311 Contributing Member • Posts: 553
Re: Except by then...

mclaren777 wrote:

Great Bustard wrote:

...many former Canon owners will be shooting with the D800.

And equally as many former Nikon owners will be shooting with the 5D3. What's your point?

Judging from this forum....you would be very mistaken.

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Chez Wimpy Veteran Member • Posts: 8,924
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Skip M wrote:

All the 5D mkII offered vis a vis the 5D was more pixels and video/live view, the latter not a big deal to still photographers.

Live View not a big deal to still photographers? Without it I would never have transitioned to landscapes full time, the 17 and 24TSEIIs would have hardly sold, and it has meant shooting with assurance (focus+exposure) that never existed in the original. For live targets, AF micro-adjust meant that I got all my lenses spot on (including the Sigma 50), and that has drastically improved my keeper rate for shallow DOF candids. The LCD is 640x480 resolution, and the embedded jpegs full size reviewable, so you could check focus in the field BEFORE YOU GOT BACK, and redo the shots you missed - saving so much (AF) heartbreak.

It was a huge improvement.

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studio311 Contributing Member • Posts: 553
Re: Except by then...

Skip M wrote:

bobn2 wrote:

mclaren777 wrote:

Great Bustard wrote:

...many former Canon owners will be shooting with the D800.

And equally as many former Nikon owners will be shooting with the 5D3. What's your point?

Why would they.

Spend $500 more and make a loss on their lenses for a camera with a sole advantage of one extra FPS (D800 will do 5FPS without grip at 25MP). So, why is anyone in their right mind going to switch in that direction?
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Or the other direction, either. I'll lose more than the $1000 (two cameras) difference in lens and auxiliary gear sales if I switched, and all I'd get is a camera with more pixels. Not a good move from this side, either.
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D800 = Higher resolution, better metering, uncompressed hdmi out, 15MP in crop mode, etc, etc...

D800 + 24-70 vs 5d3 + 24-70 II...and there's your $1000 difference right back!

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