highly confidential - Micro Four Thirds info

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YouDidntDidYou
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highly confidential - Micro Four Thirds info

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Brian Mosley Forum Pro • Posts: 20,710
This is the year...

I expect big things given the E-M5 release - finally a weathersealed m4/3rds flagship for photographers.

Now, let's see what we get in the way of weathersealed lenses.

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Everdog Veteran Member • Posts: 4,837
Math - how M43 is #1 mount

Mirrorless is 45%.
M43 was about 70% of mirrorless (Sony was 27% IIRC).
So about 31% overall for M43?
Canon and Nikon would split 50% and 5% for everyone else?

I need to look at those graphs again. I think some of my guesses are slightly off.

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Re: highly confidential - Micro Four Thirds info

1. What do we know about total volume? Given that m43 is starting from scratch, im guessing that total sales have increased.
2. Oly are still selling the EP1, EPL1 at fire sale rates.
3. OMD wont move many units.

Does it mean that Oly is now the leader of DSLRs? Take a look at the press pool at the superbowl.

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sigala1 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,892
Failure of FT vs success of MFT

These charts show the failure of original FT to gain any traction at all, compared to he very big success of mFT.

And people wonder why Olympus doesn't care about the old FT lenses or the "base" of old FT users. They practically don't exist.

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Re: Failure of FT vs success of MFT

it looks like Olympus had an uphill struggle with Four Thirds being at 6%, Nikon at 50% and Canon 38%, so it was going to be a near impossible task to get traction anyway....

however they seems to have built up a lot of traction with Micro Four Thirds

sigala1 wrote:

These charts show the failure of original FT to gain any traction at all, compared to he very big success of mFT.

And people wonder why Olympus doesn't care about the old FT lenses or the "base" of old FT users. They practically don't exist.

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Apocalypse Now! :)

That confirms many of my predictions, except that CN is still a dwarf - I hope it will change.

What is impressive is how US is really the last of the industrial countries. The crush for C&N must have been absolute. That also explains why Oly folded its marketing there.

Very nice to be on the winning side for a change.

But will it stop the whiners, I don't think so

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Re: highly confidential - Micro Four Thirds info

Jogger wrote:

1. What do we know about total volume? Given that m43 is starting from scratch, im guessing that total sales have increased.

which bit don't you understand??

2. Oly are still selling the EP1, EPL1 at fire sale rates.

"fire sale rates" a really dumb Hogansque term and doesn't apply to Olympus as the E-P1's are still in production and are being sold at competive prices especially to Nikon 1's, diddims eh?

3. OMD wont move many units.

you are absolutely kidding right????

Does it mean that Oly is now the leader of DSLRs? Take a look at the press pool at the superbowl.

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Re: highly confidential - Micro Four Thirds info

Micro Four Thirds is even picking up in North America the last few months although it may not be the most profitable market.
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Re: highly confidential - Micro Four Thirds info
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Re: highly confidential - Micro Four Thirds info

Jogger wrote:

1. What do we know about total volume?

Does it mean that Oly is now the leader of DSLRs? Take a look at the press pool at the superbowl.

Your point about total volume is a good point.

Your point about the press pool is idiotic.

Olympus did not design this camera to compete with the Nikon D3 and similar cameras. Action photography is a narrowly defined segment of photography, not broadly representative of photography in general. You only have to look at the images that people post in the forums here, or DPR's sample images, to know that. You will find action photos here and there, but most people shoot stationary subjects, most of the time, and many if not most of the action shots you do find here could easily have been taken by a m43 camera. Third, and maybe most importantly, the people in the Super Bowl press pool don't buy their own cameras so their buying choices do not necessarily reflect the best balance of performance and budget for enthusiast photographers, who are the majority on these forum.

So which is it? Are you appealing to reason as with the total volume point, or just making inflammatory statements?

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FFS Senior Member • Posts: 1,757
Au contraire...

Look at picture #2 and the blue (Olympus) spike up in June - July 2009, and check what the new camera is introduced from Olympus and available around that time.

http://www.dpreview.com/products/olympus/slrs/oly_e620

The spike is just as high as it is now. This proves that one camera in June 2009 causes Olympus market share to go as high as it has ever been, and it is not mFT.

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Re: highly confidential - Micro Four Thirds info

don't waste your time, you could lose 12 seconds of your life

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A good read on the topic.

http://www.sansobjectivity.com/newsviews/mirrorless-demand-ala-olymp.html
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Tim F 101 Senior Member • Posts: 1,020
Soon it will be time to initiate phase two...

mwahahaha.

Fredrik Glckner Veteran Member • Posts: 3,684
Re: highly confidential - Micro Four Thirds info

The market penetration of mirrorless cameras, and M4/3 in particular, is high in Japan.

I have compiled statistics per mount from the BCN Ranking lists of 20 most sold cameras per year here:

http://m43photo.blogspot.com/2012/01/camera-sales-statistics-from-japan.html

It shows that M4/3 has close to 1/5 market share of "system cameras" in Japan (DSLR + mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras).

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Re: Au contraire...

June 2009 was the intro of E-P1.
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Re: highly confidential - Micro Four Thirds info

Any your completely biased analysis isn't a waste of time?

YouDidntDidYou wrote:

don't waste your time, you could lose 12 seconds of your life

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intruder61 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,064
Re: highly confidential - Micro Four Thirds info

Jogger wrote:

1. What do we know about total volume? Given that m43 is starting from scratch, im guessing that total sales have increased.
2. Oly are still selling the EP1, EPL1 at fire sale rates.
3. OMD wont move many units.

Does it mean that Oly is now the leader of DSLRs? Take a look at the press pool at the superbowl.

its responses like this one that have me coming back to DPR for more punishment..... but i love the stupidity.....keep bringing it.

Adventsam Veteran Member • Posts: 4,983
Re:This will be the end of m43 for many

Expensive bodies with average iq, they have done nothing again to further the m43 platform. Yes there's lots of interest from old Oly fans and people who think they must have ibis(mad-sad people). The reality is this is the gx1-g3 sensor in a way over inflated priced camera. Oly milk it while you can.

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Everdog Veteran Member • Posts: 4,837
This must really upset Jogger

He is posting stuff that is even sillier than normal.
I love when he tries to pass off his warped opinion as fact.

Jogger wrote:

2. Oly are still selling the EP1, EPL1 at fire sale rates.

oooh, so are Canon, Sony and Nikon! Look at all their P&S cameras going for under $200! They may even cost more to make because of their more expensive/larger LCDs and newer/denser sensors.

3. OMD wont move many units.

Is that a fact or a crazy guess?

Does it mean that Oly is now the leader of DSLRs? Take a look at the press pool at the superbowl.

How many APS cameras were at the press pool? LOL

M43 and FF don't compete. It is APS DSLRs that had the larger marketshare and are now getting killed.

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