10-30/30-110 vs 10-100 - My experience

Started Feb 2, 2012 | Discussions
AdamJRed Contributing Member • Posts: 545
10-30/30-110 vs 10-100 - My experience
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I've been using the V1 for a while now, and a camera that I was unsure about has turned out to be an amazing performer. There are plenty of small items I would like changed, but as a whole it is so very fast and produces such great images that I am very very happy with it.

When I purchased the camera I got the two lens kit and shortly there after I picked up the 10-100 lens separately.

I went out multiple times with the 2-lens kit, and then sometimes just the 10-100. I've decided after my experience to send the 10-100 back and keep the 10-30/30-110 pair.

There were no absolute 'deal breakers' for me with the 10-100, but the summation of the following negatives, made it the least appealing option to me.

-The 2 to 3 seconds of delay from pressing power-on to lens extension at times frustrated me. If I was thinking ahead I would keep the barrel locked in extended position, but I didn't always have that opportunity and in a rush that extension seemed painfully slow.

-The ability to manually control focal length, as well as know with some accuracy what your focal length was, is more important to me than I thought. About half to 3/4 of my photos I prefer to set my focal length first BEFORE framing, I realize that not everyone needs or wants to do this but it was very difficult on the 10-100 because there was no precise way to set FL and there was no real indicator to what FL was being used other than the little bar graph on the screen, so the best I could do was estimate. I should point out that for videos, the power zoom produced better videos than manual zooming, if I was primarily doing video work then my opinions would be different.

-The size of the lens was not something that tended to bother me, although in its extended form it became quite large, I am used to using similar sized lenses on other camera systems (NEX, etc.) I did find that the lens was really heavier then I cared for, it didn't balance well on the camera, it didn't hang well from any strap, and it was too heavy for me to be comfortable with using only a wrist strap. With the lens locked in the extended position it was worse in all of those aspects. I tended to find I didn't mind the lens or its balance until about 30mins of carrying it around in anything other than a bag. In almost all circumstances I preferred carrying with either the 10-30 or 30-110.

-Probably my last issue was the image quality. I did not find any issues with sharpness, and honestly at focal lengths under 80mm I felt it had better contrast than either of the 2 Kits, although I wasn't impressed with edge sharpness on my 10-100. My 'issue' was with the lens speed. With a maximum speed of f/4.5 at the wide end and f/5.6 at telephoto I felt like I was always shooting f/5 or f/5.6. When I compare my images as a 'group' compared to when I've used the two-lens setup I have alot more f/3.5, f/3.8, and f/4 images, especially indoors. That's a 1/3 to 2/3 stop advantage at times, or the difference between the image at ISO 3200 vs ISO 2000, I'll take that advantage.

I think if my focus was more heavily on the V1 being a video system that I also take photos with, the 10-100 would be my goto choice. But when I want to grab a camera for taking photos, in the end I liked both using - and the image output of the 2 lens setup, which are really the most important aspects for me.

The fact that 10-100 carries a premium of $500 over buying the 30-110 (to augment a baisc kit) is also something that should be considered. I'd rather use that $500 on the SB-N5 and/or FT1...

There just didn't seem to be alot of information out there about comparing these, other than plenty of people who were very satisfied with their 10-100 (frankly, I am/was too, its just not 'as-good' for me as the two lens setup) so I wanted to share my experience...

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Identity Senior Member • Posts: 1,065
Re: 10-30/30-110 vs 10-100 - My experience

Thank you, that's a nice summary.

I have the 10-30 and 30-110 kit and heartily agree with all of your points. Unless you are doing a lot of video work and need the smooth power zoom, or if you REALLY don't want to deal with switching lenses and are willing to pay the penalty in size, weight, and speed, then the dual-kit lens is a better option.

And the 30-110 lens is just so good for $250!

Bangers and Mash
Bangers and Mash Veteran Member • Posts: 3,009
Re: 10-30/30-110 vs 10-100 - My experience

I appreciate your thoughts. Very informative. Not having my camera as yet I wouldn't personally be able to choose, but like you, I don't see the need for the 10-100, unless there was an improvement in IQ over the other lenses.

As far as the 10-100 being used for video due to its quiet zoom, that doesn't interest me in the least. Most videographers don't use a zoom while shooting. I love shooting video, and prefer not to use the zoom other than for composing my clips beforehand.

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AlbieSky Veteran Member • Posts: 3,338
Re: 10-30/30-110 vs 10-100 - My experience

Nikon should have spent the time/research on fast primes than that 10-100 vr video lens.

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normsmith Veteran Member • Posts: 3,372
Re: 10-30/30-110 vs 10-100 - My experience

Thanks for the post, I wonder if the lens is more tempting to someone who bought the 10mm kit and is looking for just a single 'do all' lens for the rest of the focal range - not that that sounds like a good option from your observations.

In the UK, that lens is around £600. which at the current exchange rate makes that look much more expensive than in the U.S.

OP AdamJRed Contributing Member • Posts: 545
Re: 10-30/30-110 vs 10-100 - My experience

My, how things change!

After elaborating my position to my significant other, she proclaimed how much she likes 'my camera' and suggested we acquire her a J1 and keep the 10-100 for use between us... I will not turn down an opportunity to keep more glass!

While my opinions still stand, I'm happy to not have to let it go after all!

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Fujifilm X-T1 Fujifilm XF 18-55mm F2.8-4 R LM OIS Lytro Light Field 8GB Fujifilm 16-55mm F2.8R LM WR
OP AdamJRed Contributing Member • Posts: 545
Re: 10-30/30-110 vs 10-100 - My experience

I think if Nikon sold body-only or body+10mm/2.8 kits, the 10-100 would actually sell more too. I've seen other post on here who picked up the 10-100 just to have the 'do-it-all' capabilities and really enjoy it, I'm sure it would entice others on the edge if they could purchase without having so much lens overlap...

You are right, it is $749 here, but £600 converts to around $950! Ouch

normsmith wrote:

Thanks for the post, I wonder if the lens is more tempting to someone who bought the 10mm kit and is looking for just a single 'do all' lens for the rest of the focal range - not that that sounds like a good option from your observations.

In the UK, that lens is around £600. which at the current exchange rate makes that look much more expensive than in the U.S.

 AdamJRed's gear list:AdamJRed's gear list
Fujifilm X-T1 Fujifilm XF 18-55mm F2.8-4 R LM OIS Lytro Light Field 8GB Fujifilm 16-55mm F2.8R LM WR
Octane Senior Member • Posts: 2,993
Thanks a lot

Thanks for your impressions! Always good to hear user experience rather than looking at specs.

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