I just don't get these 2001 prices??

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echelon2004 Veteran Member • Posts: 8,128
Re: I just don't get these 2001 prices??

Manufacturing cost is not interesting when deciding on price. Most of the time, but not always, the price of the finished product exceeds the actual costs. There are many other costs as well, but none is interesting.

Costumer base. Competition. Prior investments. Those things matter. D4 will sell faster than Nikon can manufacture them at six grand, so if anything Nikon should sell them for more money, not less.

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irish-george Senior Member • Posts: 1,464
Re: a car with a more...

NeilJones wrote:

RedFox88 wrote:

A car with a more powerful engine, which keeps all road noise suppressed sells for much more than a low end Kia, right? Same goes for cameras.

Stupid analogy.

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Shoot like it's your last day..

Irrelevent analogy. Cameras are electronics, whose pricing model has always come down with rapid advancements. YOU may expect to pay more for you next car or next house. Everyone ELSE expects to pay less for their next television, computer, camera, or other consumer electronics.

tarnish Senior Member • Posts: 1,470
And the best answer so far is... (cue the drum roll please)

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=40256162

And we can't bring up "2001 prices" without considering 2001 dollars. Take $2850 in 2001 and invest it reasonably well. Cash it in today and there's enough to buy a brand new D4.

bgD300 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,552
By the market and taxes

Most european prices for the same gear are higher.
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michaeladawson Veteran Member • Posts: 9,385
Re: a car with a more...

If you don't like the automotive analogy then go look at audiophile equipment vs. the mass consumer crap. You pay huge premiums for what many would call insignificant improvements. But to those who hear and appreciate the difference it is worth paying.
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krikman Regular Member • Posts: 404
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irish-george wrote:

Irrelevent analogy. Cameras are electronics, whose pricing model has always come down with rapid advancements. YOU may expect to pay more for you next car or next house. Everyone ELSE expects to pay less for their next television, computer, camera, or other consumer electronics.

Then go buy cheap Coolpix L32 fo $20.
Pro DSLR aren't consumer electronic and surprisingly aren't electronic at all.
It is pro tool with many components inside.

When you deep in business you feel difference.
Pro carpenter uses hammer for $100 while at household I use $1 hammer.

bgD300 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,552
I like that analogy

My dog owes me a LOT of money that I have spent accomodating his hearing range.
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dwight3 Senior Member • Posts: 2,378
Re: I just don't get these 2001 prices??

I see a lot of wailing about a new $6000 body.

Keep the body for the product cycle (4 years). Sell it and get a D5 then. Assuming you kept it in good shape you will probably get at least half what you paid for it. If you burned out the shutter, get a new one. Shutter replacement is only a few hundred bucks. Normal maintenance. Like changing the brake pads on your car.

So the D4 will cost you $3K for 4 years. $750/year.

You guys who drink Starbucks. How much do you spend on coffee in a year?

Another thought (from another forum). When you get your D5, the D4 becomes your backup for the next 4 years. At that point you convert it to IR to replace the D3/D3S you converted to IR when you got your D5. That gives you 12 years use out of the camera. $500/year.

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max crem New Member • Posts: 4
Re: I just don't get these 2001 prices??

I agree,

Nikon and Canon has unusually high profit from high-end camera, I've heard from a reliable source that manufacturing cost from say (Eos1 series and Nikon D3s, x) are far less than 500 bucks including R&D, software, chip customization and everything else.

Considering the prices they charge for those bodies, their profit are really on the very high side.

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Max

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