Zoo portraits with 60D

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dotweb Senior Member • Posts: 1,586
Zoo portraits with 60D

All Lynx images are taken with 70-200 2.8 and the Leopard images with 100-400 4.5 L
Camera 60D

Yet an other weekend with poor / bad light conditions. So a trip to the Zoo where the animals at least are standing still could be a nice way to spend a Sunday.

Thanks for looking - CC always welcome
Have a nice Sunday.

BR

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Matt Senior Member • Posts: 2,387
5157 is a great shot! Well done!

the others are so so

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Re: 5157 is a great shot! Well done!

nice shots
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OP dotweb Senior Member • Posts: 1,586
Re: 5157 is a great shot! Well done!

Thanks Matt - There was like 20 sec with sunshine just when I took this image
Thanks for taking the time to CC

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OP dotweb Senior Member • Posts: 1,586
Re: 5157 is a great shot! Well done!

Thanks for your CC tonyjr.

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qianp2k Forum Pro • Posts: 10,350
Re: Zoo portraits with 60D

Very nice photos and generally very sharp. Which version of 70-200 2.8 you are using, mark II? 100-400L is another excellent choice in zoo or safari or airshow.

Since some your photos showing some "patterns', I think they were shot thru fences or bars or weeds, right?

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1019&message=38702551

I brought 60D + 100-400L to a zoo several months ago and I really like the results came out from this combo. I am also getting a used 500L and will give serious tries in zoo, safari (Africa safari in two years) or even airshow

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qianp2k Forum Pro • Posts: 10,350
Re: 5157 is a great shot! Well done!

Agreed. It's classic even at ISO 1600. 60D handles well with 100-400L even at high ISOs.

ISO 3200, shot thru a thick dirty glass wall from 60D+100-400L. Original raw is crappy out of camera. I had to increase lots of contrast/black level and some other PP (need to shoot in RAW) and finally get a satisfied result.

And this one is taken at ISO 1250, also shot thru glass wall and from same combo.

Anyway 60D (relative light and small but fast enough in zoo) and both lenses used by OP are great combo in a zoo.

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OP dotweb Senior Member • Posts: 1,586
Re: Zoo portraits with 60D

First of all, nice high iso examples, Seems like you did a much better PP than me

Very nice photos and generally very sharp. Which version of 70-200 2.8 you are using, mark II? 100-400L is another excellent choice in zoo or safari or airshow.

It is the old version of the lens - with out IS

Since some your photos showing some "patterns', I think they were shot thru fences or bars or weeds, right?

Thick dirty glass, and bars, that were like 1,5 meters away from me, so it was difficult to "remove" them.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1019&message=38702551

I brought 60D + 100-400L to a zoo several months ago and I really like the results came out from this combo. I am also getting a used 500L and will give serious tries in zoo, safari (Africa safari in two years) or even airshow

Guess I can not justify the 500L - but I do have my eyes set on a 300 2.8 in near future. Lack of light is one big disadvantage living up north so I will go for 2.8 and crop if needed.

Thanks for your CC and good examples qianp2k.

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Wayndom Senior Member • Posts: 1,933
Re: Zoo portraits with 60D

I think you need to be more patient, wait for the right moment, even if it takes a while. Most of these lack any excitement or expressiveness on the animals' faces. The ones where the animal is sitting as if it knows it's posing for a portrait are the least interesting. And a couple were shot while the animal's eyes were closed -- that just doesn't work.

What you want are shots in which the animal is looking at something intently, or curiously, or otherwise expressing some reaction to something. Without that, the pictures have a very static feel to them, and lack interest.

I realize animals in a zoo don't have much to hold their attention, but if you want compelling photos...

On the technical side, some of the earlier shots lack any real contrast, and so look flat. You might want to play around with contrast, especially the "midrange contrast" control in Photoshop. Even better is the "Clarity" control in Adobe Camera RAW -- does the same thing, midrange contrast, but does a much better job.

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qianp2k Forum Pro • Posts: 10,350
Re: Zoo portraits with 60D

dotweb wrote:

It is the old version of the lens - with out IS

f/2.8 is still f2.8 and very needed in low light

Thick dirty glass, and bars, that were like 1,5 meters away from me, so it was difficult to "remove" them.

Shoot thru glass is always tough as you cannot use flash. However you can use flash (best with a "Better Beamer" booster) and use wide-open aperture to make bars look lighter and smaller.

with flash and 100-400L on 60D to shoot thru density bars into a pretty dark cage (completely in shadow around 4:30pm)

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1019&message=38702551

... but I do have my eyes set on a 300 2.8 in near future. Lack of light is one big disadvantage living up north so I will go for 2.8 and crop if needed.

300L/2.8 (with or without IS) is a extremely sharp and still tack sharp with 1.4x TC and not bad with 2.0x TC. It's one of top choices n sports, wildlife and safari (with TC if necessary). Years ago I missed it and really regretted when IS version was $3720 in Amazon and bought 400L/5.6 instead (that I barely used it and selling now).

Thanks for your CC and good examples qianp2k.

Thank you. Continue shooting and looking forward to seeing more from you in future.

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qianp2k Forum Pro • Posts: 10,350
Re: Zoo portraits with 60D

I realize animals in a zoo don't have much to hold their attention, but if you want compelling photos...

Bring a whistle and blow, it will work Or flash to the big cat's face to bring a much needed attention. But be careful not to provoke otherwise ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Zoo_tiger_attacks

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NovemberSun Regular Member • Posts: 393
Re: Zoo portraits with 60D

I agree IMG_5157 is the pic of the litter. double pun certainly intended! lol
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OP dotweb Senior Member • Posts: 1,586
Re: Zoo portraits with 60D

Thanks Wayndom for the CC, I really apriciate it.

I think you need to be more patient, wait for the right moment, even if it takes a while. Most of these lack any excitement or expressiveness on the animals' faces. The ones where the animal is sitting as if it knows it's posing for a portrait are the least interesting. And a couple were shot while the animal's eyes were closed -- that just doesn't work.

I have to admit that I might not have been patient enough - but on the other hand, I did put more attention to where the animal was placed in the inviroment, so that I could get a shot with out to many "Zoo elements" like cage, and nother things that do not belong in nature

What you want are shots in which the animal is looking at something intently, or curiously, or otherwise expressing some reaction to something. Without that, the pictures have a very static feel to them, and lack interest.

I realize animals in a zoo don't have much to hold their attention, but if you want compelling photos...

On the technical side, some of the earlier shots lack any real contrast, and so look flat. You might want to play around with contrast, especially the "midrange contrast" control in Photoshop. Even better is the "Clarity" control in Adobe Camera RAW -- does the same thing, midrange contrast, but does a much better job.

This was good feedback. I will go back to the files, and do a "makeover" to see what I can achive.

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OP dotweb Senior Member • Posts: 1,586
Re: Zoo portraits with 60D

Sorry - didnt get that one.

BR

Steen

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I agree IMG_5157 is the pic of the litter. double pun certainly intended! lol
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