Prime Lens Question

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Azfar Regular Member • Posts: 125
Prime Lens Question

I just bought a t3i and looking to buy a prime lens. I know The nift fifty is the crowd favorite because of the low price and the value for money it offers. But what if i'm willing to spend a little more. What about the next alternatives in line from Canon i.e.

28mm f2.8 $250
24mm f2.8 $369
35mm f2 $400

Are they any good. recommended? anyone using them? I'm inclined towards the 28mm since its cheaper of these three and wider than the 50mm. Should i go for it?

Bear in mind that i'm a beginner when it comes to dSLRs. and i know that it is trickier to shoot with the primes as there is no zoom and one has to move a little bit more to get the required composition. So will it be easier / difficult to shoot with a 50mm or a 28mm.
Would really appreciate some guidance here. Thanks : ).
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barmaley111 Regular Member • Posts: 469
Re: Prime Lens Question

Azfar wrote:

I just bought a t3i and looking to buy a prime lens. I know The nift fifty is the crowd favorite because of the low price and the value for money it offers. But what if i'm willing to spend a little more. What about the next alternatives in line from Canon i.e.

28mm f2.8 $250
24mm f2.8 $369
35mm f2 $400

Do you have a kit lens or just camera body?

If you have kit lens, you should shoot with it for some time to find out what focal length suits you better. Optically 35/2 is probably the best between the mentioned lenses, but I personally don't find this focal length useful on a crop body.
And what are you going to shoot with it?

Are they any good. recommended? anyone using them? I'm inclined towards the 28mm since its cheaper of these three and wider than the 50mm. Should i go for it?

Bear in mind that i'm a beginner when it comes to dSLRs. and i know that it is trickier to shoot with the primes as there is no zoom and one has to move a little bit more to get the required composition. So will it be easier / difficult to shoot with a 50mm or a 28mm.
Would really appreciate some guidance here. Thanks : ).
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MMACory Senior Member • Posts: 1,752
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The 85 1.8 is great for indoor sports and the 200 2.8 great as well for indoor sports from the stands or opposite end of the court and outdoor sports (if you'll be doing any of that).

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OP Azfar Regular Member • Posts: 125
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I do have the kit lens. I will mostly be shooting at family events (weddings etc), indoor shots of my nieces and nephews. i do a bit of mountaineering so will be doing a bit of landscape shots as well.
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kjbkix Regular Member • Posts: 230
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If you're getting a prime, at least get something faster than 2.8. I'd recommend the 28 1.8 or Sigma 30 1.4 if you want a normal view on crop. Both are fast enough to shoot indoors without flash.

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focal Regular Member • Posts: 218
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The 35/2 is ok, but have you tried the Tokina
35mm f/2.8 AT-X M35 Pro DX Macro Autofocus?

arty H Senior Member • Posts: 1,407
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The 35f2 is a fine lens. I would avoid an f2.8 prime, unless it is a macro lens, but this is OK for a zoom.

I'd look at the 35f2, a great lens for indoor natural light photos. Also consider the 28f1.8.

barmaley111 Regular Member • Posts: 469
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35 mm is very good lens, but on a crop body I prefer 28 1.8 USM, it focuses very fast and has good focal length for the use, you've described. I was very happy with this lens, here are few examples in low light and a landscape:

here are small review with more samples:
http://alexsukonkin.com/reviews/Canon-EF28-f18-USM_en.shtml

Sigma 30 1.4 is also worth considering.
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OP Azfar Regular Member • Posts: 125
Re: Prime Lens Question

barmaley111 wrote:

35 mm is very good lens, but on a crop body I prefer 28 1.8 USM, it focuses very fast and has good focal length for the use, you've described. I was very happy with this lens, here are few examples in low light and a landscape:

Sigma 30 1.4 is also worth considering.
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Thanks Alex. some nice sharp shots there. but at roughly around $500 28 1.8 is out of my reach. Yes i'm willing to go up, but $250-$300 tops. So i have to look for the best available option in that price range.
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OP Azfar Regular Member • Posts: 125
Re: Prime Lens Question

kjbkix wrote:

If you're getting a prime, at least get something faster than 2.8. I'd recommend the 28 1.8 or Sigma 30 1.4 if you want a normal view on crop. Both are fast enough to shoot indoors without flash.

28 1.8 is out of my range :(. Sigma 1.4 looks amazing fro its price but still too high for me.

focal wrote:

The 35/2 is ok, but have you tried the Tokina
35mm f/2.8 AT-X M35 Pro DX Macro Autofocus?

Tokina looks interesting. But i cant find any reviews about it.

arty H wrote:

The 35f2 is a fine lens. I would avoid an f2.8 prime, unless it is a macro lens, but this is OK for a zoom.

I'd look at the 35f2, a great lens for indoor natural light photos. Also consider the 28f1.8.

Read the 28 2.8 review on the-digital-picture. Didn't look promising. will check out the 35 f2.
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gulati Contributing Member • Posts: 556
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I really like the 35/2 on 5D. I had crop and Sigma 30 but wanted more reliable AF and more width. If I were starting over with crop, I'd suggest an used Canon 28/1.8, which should price similarly to a new 35/2. I had the 24/2.8 on crop, liked the focal length but too slow for me.
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tonyjr Veteran Member • Posts: 5,280
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I have the 28 and 35 [ also the 50 ] I really don't like any of them . The 18-55 IS was faster focusing and is better to me [ but it is bigger and heavier . ]
If you have it , shoot with it then check your most used mm .
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Ben_Egbert Forum Pro • Posts: 20,228
My advice

The nifty fifty is a great bargain, and my only issue is build quality and poor af. But AF can probably be solved with micro adjust.

The problem with moving up one notch is that you may not be satisfied and will need to move up another notch. The incremental moves at substantial prices can kill your wallet.

I did this myself. Staring with mid range lenses, selling them and moving to best of class lenses.

Sure, its not hard to sell a lens, but when you pay $600 and sell for $400, or in some cases $1200 and sell for $1000, and do this with several lenses, it adds up.

I suggest starting simple and spend a year or more to decide what focal length and style you really need and then go for the best lens you can afford that meets your needs.

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OP Azfar Regular Member • Posts: 125
Re: Prime Lens Question

tonyjr wrote:

I have the 28 and 35 [ also the 50 ] I really don't like any of them . The 18-55 IS was faster focusing and is better to me [ but it is bigger and heavier . ]
If you have it , shoot with it then check your most used mm .

I was thinking on these lines too. Was going through this thread

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1029&message=40009255

and the OP has actually collected the data on most used focal length from his photos. wow. Talk about being analytical : ). and now i'm getting the same advice from you. So i guess i should stick with the kit lens for now to figure out what focal length really suit me.

Thanks for the replies guys. Really appreciated.
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OP Azfar Regular Member • Posts: 125
Re: My advice

Ben_Egbert wrote:

The nifty fifty is a great bargain, and my only issue is build quality and poor af. But AF can probably be solved with micro adjust.

The problem with moving up one notch is that you may not be satisfied and will need to move up another notch. The incremental moves at substantial prices can kill your wallet.

I did this myself. Staring with mid range lenses, selling them and moving to best of class lenses.

Sure, its not hard to sell a lens, but when you pay $600 and sell for $400, or in some cases $1200 and sell for $1000, and do this with several lenses, it adds up.

I suggest starting simple and spend a year or more to decide what focal length and style you really need and then go for the best lens you can afford that meets your needs.

Thanks Ben, am doing exactly that. going to stick with my 18-55. I guess in time i will have a fair idea of what i need.
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NetMage Senior Member • Posts: 2,910
Re: My advice

I'll second the advice of don't get a prime f2.8.

If you can't afford a faster prime, get a used Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 or the similar Tamron instead.

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