No High-Speed Sync when triggering 430EX II from 60D remotely?

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167 Junior Member • Posts: 26
No High-Speed Sync when triggering 430EX II from 60D remotely?

Hi guys, I'm new to flash photography. I got 430EX II connected to my 60D remotely (via pop-up flash). With High-Speed Sync turned on on my 430EX, I can't get my 60D go faster than 1/250 shutter speed. I was on manual mode btw. Did I miss something or that's a limitation? I know it is the case for those cheap ebay trigger out there but not sure if this apply to 430EX as well. Please let me know, thanks!

ScratchDisk Veteran Member • Posts: 3,253
Re: No High-Speed Sync when triggering 430EX II from 60D remotely?

Hi, That is a limitation - it lies with the pop-up controller. If you were using a 5xxEx or the ST-E2 as the master device, HSS would then be available across a Canon Wireless network.

I think Canon thought that wth the 60D/7D/600D controllers, power from the built-in flash was going to be limited anyway and therefore increasing the demand by implementing HSS would lead to lack of reliability.

167 OP Junior Member • Posts: 26
Re: No High-Speed Sync when triggering 430EX II from 60D remotely?

ScratchDisk wrote:

Hi, That is a limitation - it lies with the pop-up controller. If you were using a 5xxEx or the ST-E2 as the master device, HSS would then be available across a Canon Wireless network.

I think Canon thought that wth the 60D/7D/600D controllers, power from the built-in flash was going to be limited anyway and therefore increasing the demand by implementing HSS would lead to lack of reliability.

That is sad... I was thinking about getting another 430EX... is there a cheaper solution to this? Can we connect 2 flashes with flash cables? Thanks anyway!

ScratchDisk Veteran Member • Posts: 3,253
Re: No High-Speed Sync when triggering 430EX II from 60D remotely?

Hi, Cables - yes, partly. The OC-E3, or preferably a long non-coiled clone of same, preserves - to a single speedlite - both HSS and Second Curtain sync (they also preserve 'master' functionality, if a 5xxEx is on the end). In the US, see Flashzebra's site - Lon is a very helpful guy.

But, you ask " .. Can we connect 2 flashes with flash cables? .. usually no, not 2. There are possible exceptions, eg Yongnuo's FC-681, but unlike simple OC-E3 clones these are not 'plug & play', there are all sorts of restrictions on their use. Cheers, Donald

7DJoe Regular Member • Posts: 156
Re: No High-Speed Sync when triggering 430EX II from 60D remotely?

I have a 7D with 2 430EX II flashes. I use Pocketwizards to obtain off camera high speed sync with the flashes. I have a TT1 mounted to the 7D Hot Shoe and the TT5's mounted to the flashes. In addition, I have the AC3 zone controller mounted on the TT1. The AC3 was a very nice surprise, as you can very easily adjust the Flash Output without having to stop and look at the camera.

There have been reported problems with Pocketwizards and Canon flashes, but with this setup I have not had any problems.

I realize this solution is quite expensive......but it works!

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167 OP Junior Member • Posts: 26
Re: No High-Speed Sync when triggering 430EX II from 60D remotely?

7DJoe wrote:

I have a 7D with 2 430EX II flashes. I use Pocketwizards to obtain off camera high speed sync with the flashes. I have a TT1 mounted to the 7D Hot Shoe and the TT5's mounted to the flashes. In addition, I have the AC3 zone controller mounted on the TT1. The AC3 was a very nice surprise, as you can very easily adjust the Flash Output without having to stop and look at the camera.

There have been reported problems with Pocketwizards and Canon flashes, but with this setup I have not had any problems.

I realize this solution is quite expensive......but it works!

That's very nice to have larger budget. After reading all the responds, I know I will have to give up high speed sync remotely at the moment. I hope I can afford all 580 and PW

kb2zuz Veteran Member • Posts: 3,201
What do you need HSS for?

Unfortunately high speed sync doesn't come cheap. However I would re-evaluate how much you really need HSS. A lot of people feel they need HSS for more situations than they do. Yes if you're out in bright sunlight and shooting at f/5.6 or wider you will need faster shutter speeds, but in these cases you can use an ND filter to cut your exposure. But outside of very bright sunlight and relatively wide aperture, HSS is usually not needed.
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167 OP Junior Member • Posts: 26
Re: What do you need HSS for?

kb2zuz wrote:

Unfortunately high speed sync doesn't come cheap. However I would re-evaluate how much you really need HSS. A lot of people feel they need HSS for more situations than they do. Yes if you're out in bright sunlight and shooting at f/5.6 or wider you will need faster shutter speeds, but in these cases you can use an ND filter to cut your exposure. But outside of very bright sunlight and relatively wide aperture, HSS is usually not needed.
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Good point. Thanks, kb2zuz.

MontrealMike New Member • Posts: 1
Re: What do you need HSS for?

Can you use YN-662C and YN-662C-TX for trigerring HSS with the 430EX II flash ?

Mike

SeedyBee Regular Member • Posts: 153
Re: What do you need HSS for?

MontrealMike wrote:

Can you use YN-662C and YN-662C-TX for trigerring HSS with the 430EX II flash ?

Mike

Yes, no problem if the camera supports Canon's HSS.

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