Help me get started - Printer - Ink - Calibrator - IPS panel

Started Jul 18, 2011 | Discussions
limited_bokeh Junior Member • Posts: 33
Help me get started - Printer - Ink - Calibrator - IPS panel

Well I have decided to finally start doing some of my own printing at home, rather than send off to the lab. I am pretty much set on getting the Canon Pixma Pro9000 MK II .. the price on these are just too good to pass up. Seems like a good price to get into this again..

Few questions.

1. If I plan to run compatible inks ( and I have read through threads about this ).. is there any reliable retailer that makes good compatible inks already in the cartridge? I would like to down the road purchase bulk bottles/squeeze bottles/empty carts/ etc, but just to get started figured I would see if I could find some decent compatible carts

2. What kind of calibrator is best for my needs? I am just a hobbyist, don't make any money from my work, but want the ability to match my prints close to what I see on screen. Is the cheapest solution going to be a colormunki?

3. Right now I am running a non-calibrated ( DELL ) TN panel. It's actually one of the newer models and the color looks good to me ( comparing to my mac IPS from work ) but I know I need to upgrade this soon. Will calibrating a TN panel be worth the time.. or am I just wasting time until I get an IPS panel?

Here are the three things I am going to purchase so I can start getting into printing from home..
IPS PANEL, Canon Pixma PRO9000 MK II, Calibration device.. and inks.

In what order should I purchase this stuff? I can't get it all at once, and obviously the color calibrator is going to be needed if I want to do my own prints. Should I get the display first, and then get the printer/calibrator... or can I get started with the printer/calibrator and use it in conjunction with my DELL TN panel.. and get an IPS panel in a couple of months?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Andrew Curatola Senior Member • Posts: 1,661
Re: Help me get started - Printer - Ink - Calibrator - IPS panel

The printer is your call, I'm partial to Epson printers, right now I have both the Epson 2880 and Epson 3000 which I think are both excellent printers.

Ink I can't help you with because I've always used Epson inks since the beginning of time.

The only thing I could recommend to you if your going to make your own icc Printer Profiles is to use ColorMunki Photo. Making printer profiles using ColorMunki is as easy as pie and the profiles are real great plus the fact that you know you made them.

Have a nice day

ronzie Senior Member • Posts: 1,288
Re: Help me get started - Printer - Ink - Calibrator - IPS panel

I have a NEC monitor IPS type that has its own customized I1D2 display and the LUTs are in the monitor. The calibrator is monitor only.

I have a ColorMunki Photo I use for the printer, an ancient Canon S820 six cartridge that came with a lousy driver and profile. To get around the lousy CM in the driver I use QImage since my editor will soft proof but not drive the printer using CM.

In order of priority I would get the CMP to create your printer profile when going non-OEM inks and paper and see how the quality of your present monitor is with a registered profile you create. Also you've seen me and others recommend adjusting your monitor backlight to 50 to 75 percent to keep the best brightness dynamics to result in a 100 to 125 max ft candle illumination for the white chip without extreme brightness adjustments. This can result in a better brightness soft-proof.

The CMP will adjust the LUT in your graphics card and for some monitors if OEM supplied software allows like the NEC Spectraview series adjust the monitor LUTs. When the time comes with LUTs on the monitor you set your card to reference default curves via its drivers and then have the CMP adjust the monitor LUTs.

NEC purchases come either by component or full bundles so you can use your CMP as its sensor according to the instructions.

If you get the CMP first it should be compatible either driving your monitor LUTs or if it won't then it will align your graphics card. I also suggest you keep your present monitor for general computer work and put your IPS monitor on the second port turning it on for editing to reduce backlight aging and extend life. I turn mine on about twenty minutes before an editing session to allow it to stabilize using my old CRT for other uses.

Viewsonic also has some IPS monitors.

On any monitor when calibrating and using it for editing sessions turn of any automatic dynamic contrast and other consumer settings so it is in a linear fixed state.

So . . .

Get the printer of choice and the CMP and see for now how well you do with the present monitor.

Regarding the CMP if you are a Mac user, the current CMP software should be compatible if you upgrade to the Lion OSX version 10.7 according to a recent e-mail from X-Rite.

Go to the support tab on the CMP product page of X-Rite and expand and browse the troubleshooting and FAQ sections for a neat supplementation of the manual. Also be sure you update the CMP application to version 1.1.1 Mac or Win.

BTW I am a Win XP user.

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Ron Ginsberg
Minneapolis, MN
Land of 10,000 Puddles

irvweiner Contributing Member • Posts: 705
Re: Help me get started - Printer - Ink - Calibrator - IPS panel

Canon P9000 YES
Colormunki YES
Ink OCP

There is much info on this site for you. I suggest you search the following posters:

B.Petruska Zone8 Ronzie and myself irvweiner.

I have listed a set of reliable vendors that will supply all your needs, give your original carts TLC and they will last longer than your printer. Refilling the CLI8 cart will cost you ~$0.25 and your prints will superb. Been doing this with my Canon 9xxx's for the last decade.

good luck irv weiner

Robert Schoner Senior Member • Posts: 1,039
Re: Help me get started - Printer - Ink - Calibrator - IPS panel

Hi,

If you are just starting to do your own printing I would suggest staying with OEM ink and paper for awhile. Color management, profiling etc is somewhat esoteric and usually takes a bit of learning and a lot of mistakes (not to mention money.) It's a lot easier to simply follow the printer's basic instructions, get prints you like and then proceed down the color management path. FWIW, I have found that as long as you stay with the OEM ink and paper profiling the printer does not gain much (others will dispute this.) After you learn the basic steps profiling the monitor comes next. Then, if the economics justify (or you just want to learn), switch inks and paper and profile the printer/ink/paper.

HTH,

Bob Schoner

Petruska Veteran Member • Posts: 8,277
That is correct.....

Need to crawl, walk, then run.....

Bob P.

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