To D3X or D3s?

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Mike Cinch Perry Junior Member • Posts: 25
To D3X or D3s?

OK, after looking around for D3s now for little over a week and not finding any, should I wait till more are produced or jump on a D3x. I shoot a little of everything but mainly concerts, landscapes, motorsports and more. I just need help justifying one over the other. Thanks for the help in advance!

Margouillat Regular Member • Posts: 448
Re: To D3X or D3s?

Well, the D3x is a great camera if you don't really mind the price difference with the D3s !

The main differences being ISO... And the lack of video (that's why I bought mine)!

The drawback in your photography as you state it, would be concerts and motor sports.

Concerts, because the D3x gets a bit of grain (not really noise, more a sort of digital grainy look) after 1600 ISO (that's my upper limit usually). You can still get some great shots at 6400 but you need to nail very precisely the exposure!

Motor-sports (or sports), because of long lenses, DoF, Speed... A D3s is much better there !

For the other sceneries, casual street, architecture, portraits, etc. the D3x works very well !

As for old timers, like me, used to film ISO limitations where 1600 ISO (clean) is already magical

Some very "real life" examples at various lens length (primes):

http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/35mmf2d,d3x/Interesting
http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/50mmf18d,d3x/Interesting
http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/85mmf18d,d3x/Interesting
http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/105mmf28gvrmicro,d3x/Interesting

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Les Kamens Regular Member • Posts: 329
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I found my D3s in a small camera store. perhaps look in that direction. The 3s is a newer technology than the 3x and loves indoor available light. 3x great in studio. If you are going to sell this equipment off when the D4 comes out, than my felling is that the d3s will retain more value than the d3x...the newer camera's should have higher megapixels less noise in the higher iso's and if important full on HD video with more bells and whistles to compete with the 5DII. With all this said...I don't think the value of the D3x will have much value. But just an opinion. They are both real great cameras.

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JacobJaapC Junior Member • Posts: 36
Re: To D3X or D3s?

Hello all.

Nice photos Margouillat. Thanks for showing.

Have a nice day all.

Margouillat Regular Member • Posts: 448
Re: To D3X or D3s?

Thank you for the kind comment...

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Milner Senior Member • Posts: 1,102
Re: To D3X or D3s?

D3s for sports, NOT d3x.

Mike Cinch Perry wrote:

OK, after looking around for D3s now for little over a week and not finding any, should I wait till more are produced or jump on a D3x. I shoot a little of everything but mainly concerts, landscapes, motorsports and more. I just need help justifying one over the other. Thanks for the help in advance!

001FJ Regular Member • Posts: 357
Re: To D3X or D3s?

From what you said, "I shoot a little of everything but mainly concerts, landscapes, motorsports and more", you definitely need the D3s. I think the D3x has the advantage for shooting landscapes, but the D3s can do it too! But when it comes to concerts and motorsports the D3s will definitely be by far the better camera.

Mike Cinch Perry wrote:

OK, after looking around for D3s now for little over a week and not finding any, should I wait till more are produced or jump on a D3x. I shoot a little of everything but mainly concerts, landscapes, motorsports and more. I just need help justifying one over the other. Thanks for the help in advance!

OP Mike Cinch Perry Junior Member • Posts: 25
Re: To D3X or D3s?

Thanks for the information, I'm currently in Iraq shooting with a D2x, I'll get R&R possibly next month, hopefully Showcase Camera or KEH in Atlanta will have some by then. But till then my D2x is my battle buddy out here in the sandbox.

Again thanks for the info!

Stevequad
Stevequad Senior Member • Posts: 1,665
Re: To D3X or D3s?

In stock at B&H.
I got the D3S over the X also...
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=nikon+d3s&N=0&InitialSearch=yes
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Moonwalker Senior Member • Posts: 2,101
Re: To D3X or D3s?

"OK, after looking around for D3s now for little over a week and not finding any, should I wait till more are produced or jump on a D3x. I shoot a little of everything but mainly concerts, landscapes, motorsports and more. I just need help justifying one over the other. Thanks for the help in advance!"

I have the D3S and the D3X and love them both. Get the D3S for concerts, motorsports. The lowlight performance is stunning. I've used the D3 for years, but the D3S takes it a step further if you really work in lowlight. Get the D3X for landscapes. It delivers excellent detail. They are very different cameras, I never use the D3X for concerts or sports and I hardly ever use the D3S for landscape work.

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mosman Contributing Member • Posts: 877
FWIW

I use the D3 (not the s) for sports and as the default camera for events and PJ work. The D3x gets used for portrait and far more controlled situations - light and time.

D3 if far more forgiving (or should that more flexible) in terms of technique and file size.

YMMV

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nikonwiz338 Senior Member • Posts: 1,092
Re: FWIW

these are 2 completely different cameras used for different purposes. considering your about to possibly drop $8000 don't you think you should be able to answer this question for yourself?

figure out what you like to shoot, spec the cameras, see which one fits your needs the best, then go try them out. and when thats all over, wait a month to see if you still want it. if it were me spending that kind of money, i would make sure i was buying what i wanted...
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Mel Veteran Member • Posts: 3,716
Re: FWIW

Only someone not willing to shop would be paying the MSRP the D3X is still listed for at a few places.
The D3X has been available for quite some time now below 7K.

But very good advice on deciding just what ones actual needs are first.
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mosman Contributing Member • Posts: 877
Sorry

I thought I did

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IainD Senior Member • Posts: 1,771
Re: Sorry

Get both.

rondhamalam
rondhamalam Senior Member • Posts: 2,582
Stay with D3s !!!!

Sports....? don't jump to D3X.

The D3s is irreplaceable

Samples from a serious user:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=38440098
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=38546240
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=38172160

After struggling with his 1D4 and bought D3s, he was contemplating to jump totally from Canon to Nikon.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=38669492

Well, he may not jump totally.
But you get the idea how serious D3s is.

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mosman Contributing Member • Posts: 877
Have both

How's life down there?

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OP Mike Cinch Perry Junior Member • Posts: 25
Re: FWIW

nikonwiz338 wrote:

these are 2 completely different cameras used for different purposes. considering your about to possibly drop $8000 don't you think you should be able to answer this question for yourself?

I have been shooting Combat Camera for the Army now for little over 5 years, the cameras the Army supplied were crap so I purchased my own (D2Hs and a D2X) I also used these cameras to shoot just about ever country music start around at concerts (made a bit of money at that) plus was shooting at Road Atlanta and Atlanta motor speedway. I know what I like to shoot or should I say what makes money, but the lack of samples of low light D3X had me wondering, that's why I asked (This is a D3 fourm right?) I was simply wanting to get the opinions of others that own both cameras.

Thanks for everyone's advice, I'll end up ordering both since I just found out I was promoted today, and I also extended my service for another 6 years with a nice tax free bonus while I'm here in Iraq. Thanks again, time for me to go play in the 130 degree sandstorms, and dodge 240mm rockets (at 3am).

Mel Veteran Member • Posts: 3,716
Re: FWIW

Mike Cinch Perry wrote:

I have been shooting Combat Camera for the Army now for little over 5 years, the cameras the Army supplied were crap so I purchased my own (D2Hs and a D2X) I also used these cameras to shoot just about ever country music start around at concerts (made a bit of money at that) plus was shooting at Road Atlanta and Atlanta motor speedway. I know what I like to shoot or should I say what makes money, but the lack of samples of low light D3X had me wondering, that's why I asked (This is a D3 fourm right?) I was simply wanting to get the opinions of others that own both cameras.

Thanks for everyone's advice, I'll end up ordering both since I just found out I was promoted today, and I also extended my service for another 6 years with a nice tax free bonus while I'm here in Iraq. Thanks again, time for me to go play in the 130 degree sandstorms, and dodge 240mm rockets (at 3am).

If you can afford both? It's a non issue. But unless you are making larger than 11 X 14 prints on a regular basis, the D3X will not gain you anything.

The D3X however is far superior to the D2X and D2H in low light shooting. Don't be misled by those 24 MP not having a good lowlight ability. It is just no where near what the D3S will give you.

The D3S will be the best of the two for the shooting situations you have described.

Have fun!
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Donald Chin
Donald Chin Veteran Member • Posts: 5,757
D3x for Sports ???

Certainly...

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