Canon EF 28-105mm f4-5.6 USM

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Simon_In_Reading Forum Member • Posts: 51
Canon EF 28-105mm f4-5.6 USM

Hi, I'm a part-time mature student (29) shooting with a Canon 40D and am looking to invest in a lens that would enable me to do portraits and hopefully some decent shots at weddings. More so socially but potentially friends have asked if I would take their wedding photo's for them?

I've not got a huge budget but wondered what people's opinions would be on the following lenses both in terms of value for money and also to be used as above or maybe as a walk around lens?

Canon EF 28-105mm f4-5.6 USM - £70
Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM - £170
Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM - £290

Or similarly you might be able to advise on an alternative lens?

Thank you for any help and advice

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RD24 Junior Member • Posts: 39
Re: Canon EF 28-105mm f4-5.6 USM

Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM - £170

I own this lens & it is a fantastic walk around lens. Delivers very good IQ. Very little CA & vignetting, not noticeable most of the times(especially on crop sensor DSLR). However in low light condition the need to bump up the ISO arises or using of tripod since it does not have IS. The AF is very good & quiet & it also has FTM overide. It is a fairly quick lens. Adding a good CPL filter improves the IQ even further.

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM - £290

Don't own it, but have used a friends' on many occasiong & a very good lens too, especially since it has IS & a slight more FL but a tad slower (by 2/3 of a stop) on the longer side of FL.

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Bought the Canon EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM

I generally shoot with primes but I needed a zoom to cover events but did not want to spend $1000 (24-105IS) on a lens that I would rarely use. I ended up getting 28-135IS white box special from B&H for $400us. I'm quite happy with this zoom, quite sharp on my 1Dsmk2 at 135mm wide open even compared to my 135f2L! Build quality is pretty good and AF is accurate and the lens is close focusing and has IS.
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Simon_In_Reading OP Forum Member • Posts: 51
28-105-135 comparison

Thanks mate... I'm guessing the Canon EF 28-105mm f4-5.6 USM is no good hence the price?

When you say one lens is slower... does this mean that I would need to shoot at a slower shutter speer or open the aperture up a little more to achieve a balanced exposure?

Sorry just getting to grips with a few terms...

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Simon_In_Reading OP Forum Member • Posts: 51
Re: Bought the Canon EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM

Thanks Boris some great images - was i a film premiere or something?

I wondered, what does USM stand for?

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Hi Simon

No film premier, High School Prom pictures under terrible high noon light in a back yard.
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RD24 Junior Member • Posts: 39
Re: 28-105-135 comparison

When you say one lens is slower... does this mean that I would need to shoot at a slower shutter speer or open the aperture up a little more to achieve a balanced exposure?

Slow as in; the max appeture for 28-105 II at 105mm is f/4.5 however in the case of 28-135, at 135 the apperture is f/5.6.

Thus in the case of the latter, the shutter time will be 2/3 stop slower, but since it has IS the slight decrease in shutter speed will not cause a problem.
I would recommend the 28-135mm due to IS & 20mm add. FL.

GregoryA
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Re: 28-105-135 comparison

Simon_In_Reading wrote:

Thanks mate... I'm guessing the Canon EF 28-105mm f4-5.6 USM is no good hence the price?

When you say one lens is slower... does this mean that I would need to shoot at a slower shutter speer or open the aperture up a little more to achieve a balanced exposure?

Sorry just getting to grips with a few terms...

The 28-105mm f4-5.6 is not a very good lens. Not even close to the two others you are considering.

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jitteringjr Veteran Member • Posts: 3,446
Re: Canon EF 28-105mm f4-5.6 USM

Simon_In_Reading wrote:

Canon EF 28-105mm f4-5.6 USM - £70
Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM - £170

I wouldn't consider either of those

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM - £290

I had one that came with my 7D kit and it could not keep up with either of my el-cheapo kit lenses (18-55IS and 55-250IS). It was much softer than those so I would not recommend it. Buy the 18-55IS and a speedlight instead.

I would look around for a good used copy of the Tamron 28-75/2.8 or Tamron 17-50/2.8 non VC so you at least have the 2.8 to help blur the background out for portraits.

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jitteringjr Veteran Member • Posts: 3,446
Re: Bought the Canon EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM

Boris wrote:

I'm quite happy with this zoom, quite sharp on my 1Dsmk2 at 135mm wide open even compared to my 135f2L!

You might want to send your 135L in for calibration if you feel that way.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=116&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=6&API=1&LensComp=108&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=4

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Re: Bought the Canon EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM

Canon EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM wide open

Canon EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM wide open

100% crop

135f2L at f4...nothing wrong w/my 135L

100%crop

Pretty good sharpness for a reasonable priced zoom...of course the 135L is better in sharpness,contrast, color and background blur...for 2x the price plus sometimes you need a zoom.
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Canon EF 28-105mm 3.5

I was using my dads old copy when I picked up a 550d a few months ago and personally I found it rather soft compaired to the 18-55 IS kit lens. That is a lens that had been gathering dust for the best part of a decade though so perhaps not a very representive sample.

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Here is a review of the lenses you are interested in.
http://www.wlcastleman.com/equip/reviews/28_135zoom/index.htm
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MoreorLess wrote:

I was using my dads old copy when I picked up a 550d a few months ago and personally I found it rather soft compaired to the 18-55 IS kit lens. That is a lens that had been gathering dust for the best part of a decade though so perhaps not a very representive sample.

I would concur, mostly old film day lenses.
and for groups indoor you may need wide-angle. 28mm is just normal on crop.
18-55 IS is a start, but you may need faster lens for DOF or available light.

also, wedding is not easy - be warned.

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RS_RS Senior Member • Posts: 1,773
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Don't confuse the EF 28~105/3.5~4.5USM (original or II) with any version of the EF 28~105/4~5.6.

The latter is a very low-end lens sold as part of a kit with late-model low-end film bodies, and has poor performance and build. Certainly not worth £70 (or, indeed, anything).

The 28~105/3.5~4.5USM was a respectable ring-USM lens first introduced as the kit lens with the EOS-5, if I remember correctly. It was silently improved by replacement of the original 5-blade diaphragm with a 7-blade diaphragm, and then cosmetically upgraded to the II version. It probably falls short of expectations for digital use, and does not offer a particularly useful focal length range on a crop-factor body. I doubt if it is still available new, and you should not pay much for it s/h.

The 28~135 is, I believe, still in production, has IS, and is optically better than the 28~105 although a little slower at the same focal lengths. Canon have sold it as a kit lens with some digital 1.6-factor bodies, although it is not particularly suitable as a general-purpose 1.6-factor lens because it has no WA end. You could use it for portraiture to complement, say, an 18~55, nut there are probably much better ways of spenfing that much money.

KevinRA Regular Member • Posts: 229
Much better to get a modern zoom

These lenses are all old- and start at 28mm!

Much better quality and useability from a 18-55 IS, 17-85mm IS, 18-135mm IS. I owned a 24-85mm 3.5-4.5 (similar era to the others and reviews generally bit better) OK but - the modern even cheapo zooms are much better. (Replaced with 24-105 L and 18-55 IS).

Buy used - for example somewhere like mpbphotographic. Good stuff from them an warranty - from my 5D and 500mm f/4.- right down to the 18-55IS I picked up last week for casual shooting where I dont want to carry £££££££ around with me.

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Hi,

Simon_In_Reading wrote:

I've not got a huge budget but wondered what people's opinions would be on the following lenses both in terms of value for money and also to be used as above or maybe as a walk around lens?

Canon EF 28-105mm f4-5.6 USM - £70
Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM - £170
Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM - £290

Forget the 28-105 f4-5.6 , not worth any money. The f3.5-4.5 version is a step up with it's better optics and ring type USM. But it lacks contrast wide open and also for good sharpness it needs to be stopped down. It is light and compact.

The 28-135 is the best of those three. A decent copy is usable wide open and stopped down it can be quite good. It has the plus of having an image stabilizer and a ring type USM. Never really liked the build quality of this lens, but it's not that bad either.

Or similarly you might be able to advise on an alternative lens?

Some budget alternatives.

Canon EF-s 17-85 f4.0-5.6 , slow max aperture, not the best optics but not bad either, has IS and a ring type USM. Tamron 17-50 f2.8 (non-VC) , fast max aperture, slow focus, very good optics. Tamron 28-75 f2.8, fast max aperture, slow focus, very good optics, beware of bad copies.

Regards,
Sandor.

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