HX9V @ Robert Plant Concert

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markemery Regular Member • Posts: 116
HX9V @ Robert Plant Concert

Because I was in the front row, I was trying to be inconspicuous and limit my recording, so as to not get booted by security. I rushed it and didn't have a chance to fiddle with settings, focus, etc. Hopefully better next time.

http://www.vimeo.com/22642588

harry Veteran Member • Posts: 3,305
Re: HX9V @ Robert Plant Concert

Simply magical! Thanks for the posting of video.
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MarioV Veteran Member • Posts: 6,610
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The video quality is undeniable.
Thanks for posting.

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Gil_W Regular Member • Posts: 219
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Thanks for that. I've been looking for concert video taken with the HX9V. The only vid I've seen on YouTube is the Kylie Minogue one, but that wasn't a very loud concert.

Do the drums in your vid sound a bit distorted (clipped) to you? It kind of does to me. Usually it's the drums and bass that distort the sound. The HX5 is really bad for concert audio. Robert's vocals are a bit echoey - maybe you were too close to the monitors.

From my experience and through my research on YouTube, I've learned that if a Sony camera has a mono mic, the sound is very good (not distorted), but if it has a stereo mic, the audio is very distorted. Since the HX9V has a stereo mic, I've been very interested in how the camera handles loud concert sound (especially bass and drums). I also wonder how the "wind filter" would affect the sound (perhaps you could try that next time).

Still looking for footage taken at a really loud concert (by loud, I mean Motörhead loud, or close to it, lol).

OP markemery Regular Member • Posts: 116
Re: HX9V @ Robert Plant Concert

At the start of the show the sound was pretty muddy from where I was at, but it improved as the show went on. I'm sure the sound was better a little further back, as I was literally arm's length to their monitors with Buddy Miller's amps 15' away pointed directly at me. My ear is not well-trained, so I don't hear the drum clipping, although I do agree about the echoey vocals. Overall I was pretty pleased with the audio quality. I will definitely try the "wind filter" mode next time. Being that close, I'm pretty self-conscious about screwing around with my camera and didn't want to push it. You can thank The Who's security for that! I've got some additional footage from my iPhone 4 that I'll try to get uploaded tonight. Not sure if you can come to any conclusions comparing the two, but I'll post the link regardless. Unfortunately in one of the clips I inadvertently had my fingers over the mic, so the sound is muffled.

Gil_W Regular Member • Posts: 219
Re: HX9V @ Robert Plant Concert

markemery wrote:

At the start of the show the sound was pretty muddy from where I was at, but it improved as the show went on. I'm sure the sound was better a little further back, as I was literally arm's length to their monitors with Buddy Miller's amps 15' away pointed directly at me. My ear is not well-trained, so I don't hear the drum clipping, although I do agree about the echoey vocals. Overall I was pretty pleased with the audio quality. I will definitely try the "wind filter" mode next time. Being that close, I'm pretty self-conscious about screwing around with my camera and didn't want to push it. You can thank The Who's security for that! I've got some additional footage from my iPhone 4 that I'll try to get uploaded tonight. Not sure if you can come to any conclusions comparing the two, but I'll post the link regardless. Unfortunately in one of the clips I inadvertently had my fingers over the mic, so the sound is muffled.

Yes, the audio quality is pretty good overall, probably better than that of the HX5. The Who's security are that bad, eh? Looking forward to your iPhone vids. If you'd like, I could post links to a few concert vids I've done with Sony digicams for comparison with the HX9V.

Did you take any photos sans flash at the show? If so, did you use HHT or AMB?

OP markemery Regular Member • Posts: 116
UPDATED: Added additional footage from iPhone for comparison

Here's a medley of some additional footage shot with my iPhone 4.

YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmSk7FhkyYw&fmt=22

Vimeo:

http://vimeo.com/22686229

OP markemery Regular Member • Posts: 116
Re: HX9V @ Robert Plant Concert

I was up front at The Who at The Gorge in 2002 with a Sony 707 (can't remember exactly) and they were allowing cameras, but their head of security didn't like the looks of mine (I guess he thought it was a "pro" camera) and started to remove it from my neck. I protested and swore I wouldn't take another another shot, so he let me keep it around my neck tucked inside my shirt.

Send me your links, please!

Regrettably, I did not take any stills. Not sure what HHT or AMB means.

Gil_W wrote:

Yes, the audio quality is pretty good overall, probably better than that of the HX5. The Who's security are that bad, eh? Looking forward to your iPhone vids. If you'd like, I could post links to a few concert vids I've done with Sony digicams for comparison with the HX9V.

Did you take any photos sans flash at the show? If so, did you use HHT or AMB?

T. L. Rutter Senior Member • Posts: 2,442
So "Un-Sony Like Video"

Incredible video. The video is well balanced and the black is perfectly dark black, no noise visible.

Why did I say "Un-Sony" like? Because back in the 80's, 90's and throughout the 2000's a lot of news crews out at night shooting with a Sony offered really good quality, except the noise was so high it was pathetic. Those stations that shot with JVC produced a somewhat poorer quality, but there was no noise, a deep dark solid black.

Now, many of the Sony p&s cameras are producing some incredible video. I am amazed at the quality. Your video looked tens times more professional than a majority of consumer high-end or semi-pro video cameras offer.

Congrats!

markemery wrote:

Because I was in the front row, I was trying to be inconspicuous and limit my recording, so as to not get booted by security. I rushed it and didn't have a chance to fiddle with settings, focus, etc. Hopefully better next time.

http://www.vimeo.com/22642588

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T. L. Rutter Senior Member • Posts: 2,442
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Wow, your iphone kicks butt! I mean, there is less definition and the sound is "tiny", yet for the purpose, it serves it very well. I still prefer the higher definition, more detail, better sound from the HX9, but the iphone4 video still brings a smile to my face.

markemery wrote:

Here's a medley of some additional footage shot with my iPhone 4.

YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmSk7FhkyYw&fmt=22

Vimeo:

http://vimeo.com/22686229

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OP markemery Regular Member • Posts: 116
Re: UPDATED: Added additional footage from iPhone for comparison

I know what you mean! We're talking about a damn phone that's thinner than a pencil!

Check out my Santana video which was shot entirely on the iPhone 4. Unfortunately I made the same mistake and covered the mic for a portion of it, but I thought the video quality turned out more than acceptable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHC7_hxwF6s&hd=1

Can't wait to take the HX9V to more show!

T. L. Rutter wrote:

Wow, your iphone kicks butt! I mean, there is less definition and the sound is "tiny", yet for the purpose, it serves it very well. I still prefer the higher definition, more detail, better sound from the HX9, but the iphone4 video still brings a smile to my face.

Gil_W Regular Member • Posts: 219
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markemery wrote:

I was up front at The Who at The Gorge in 2002 with a Sony 707 (can't remember exactly) and they were allowing cameras, but their head of security didn't like the looks of mine (I guess he thought it was a "pro" camera) and started to remove it from my neck. I protested and swore I wouldn't take another another shot, so he let me keep it around my neck tucked inside my shirt.

Send me your links, please!

Regrettably, I did not take any stills. Not sure what HHT or AMB means.

Wow, a Sony 707...I'm not surprised by his reaction! The guy wouldn't have given you a second look if you had the HX9V then.

OK, here are the links:

Both songs shot w/ Sony H20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhXUgz0Z7Lg

1st song shot w/ Sony TX5, 2nd song w/ H20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYil_svBUr4

My cameras could've captured Joan's vocals better if I was near either side where the main speakers were located, but at least there's no distortion caused by the usual suspects, bass and drums.

The vocals were better captured here...shot w/ TX5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPAOe7-Dbfc

Now compare the sound from the H20 and TX5 to that of the HX5V:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmRHYfhtZmE

This distorted mess was a major reason why I returned the HX5V.

HHT = Hand Held Twilight
AMB = Anti Motion Blur

Gil_W Regular Member • Posts: 219
Re: UPDATED: Added additional footage from iPhone for comparison

markemery wrote:

Here's a medley of some additional footage shot with my iPhone 4.

YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmSk7FhkyYw&fmt=22

Vimeo:

http://vimeo.com/22686229

That's impressive for an iPhone...pretty good sound and HD to boot.

Gil_W Regular Member • Posts: 219
Re: UPDATED: Added additional footage from iPhone for comparison

Also, considering the impressiveness of the picture and sound quality of the iPhone 4, one wonders its role in the demise of the Flip.

OP markemery Regular Member • Posts: 116
Re: UPDATED: Added additional footage from iPhone for comparison

http://gizmodo.com/# !5791203/the-flip-camera-is-finally-deadyour-smartphones-got-blood-on-its-hands

Gil_W wrote:

Also, considering the impressiveness of the picture and sound quality of the iPhone 4, one wonders its role in the demise of the Flip.

OP markemery Regular Member • Posts: 116
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