Using the VCL-ECU1 Ultra Wide Converter with filters

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1aTa New Member • Posts: 12
Using the VCL-ECU1 Ultra Wide Converter with filters

I was looking to order the VCL-ECU1 to take travelling for mainly landscape shots but it just dawned on me that I can't see of any way to attach ND filters on the front for long exposures.

Is the hood removable or could I install a filter in between the adapter and the 16mm lens? If not is there some other way to attach filters as I'm quite new to this?

Cheers in advance.

headofdestiny Veteran Member • Posts: 9,226
Re: Using the VCL-ECU1 Ultra Wide Converter with filters
PhillipA Veteran Member • Posts: 5,505
I don't think ...

.. that the Lee filter (or the similar Cokin) system will work on the Wide angle converter either as they require an adapter to be fitted to the lens first, and once again there is no filter thread to mount it to.

Unless you mean holding the 100mm square Lee filters in front of the lens by hand?

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OP 1aTa New Member • Posts: 12
Re: I don't think ...

Yeah I still haven't bought any filters yet as I was waiting until I had all my lenses sorted so that I could decide exactly what I needed. I've looked at both the Lee and Cokin systems.

If the lens hood on the wide angle adapter is not removable (and it doesn't look like it is) I doubt you could even hold or "blue-tac" a filter to the front due to the light leakage in the gaps of the hood. You would have to fill those too and I would assume that would cause vignetting.

headofdestiny Veteran Member • Posts: 9,226
Re: I don't think ...

PhillipA wrote:

.. that the Lee filter (or the similar Cokin) system will work on the Wide angle converter either as they require an adapter to be fitted to the lens first, and once again there is no filter thread to mount it to.

Unless you mean holding the 100mm square Lee filters in front of the lens by hand?

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Lee offers a push on filter holder that attaches to the outside of the lens barrel. That is what many use for the Nikon 14-24mm. Granted, I'm not sure how in the way the built-in hood of the wide angle converter would be.

http://www.leefiltersusa.com/camera/products/show/ref:C4761061684662/

Cokin has this bizarre, tripod lug option:

http://www.cokin.fr/ico15-B.html

PhillipA Veteran Member • Posts: 5,505
Solution Found !!

.. well kind of

While looking at the wide adapter and a selection of Cokin filter bits, it occured to me that the right sized filter adapter might be able to be made fit on the built in hood of the Sony wide adapter.

I had a 67mm filter adapter ring, which turned out to be a good push fit on the adapter lens ( from the back). The filter holder could then be fitted and the foremost filter position allows the filter to clear the top and bottom of the lens hood (just). BTW Cokin 100mm filter and holder copies are available here:

http://www.linkdelight.com/Photography/Lens-Accessories/Filters-Accessories/View-all-products.html

I haven't tried the actual filters, but the holders and adapters look exactly the same as the Cokin ones. They should also hold Lee filters and are much cheaper than either of the name bramds.
Here's a few shots of my "brain-storm" :

... 67mm filter adapter pushed on from the rear (it can come loose, but can't fall off):

.... filter holder mounted ( actually you have to fit this to the adapter before fitting the adapter to the lens):

... filter inserted in holder:

.... clearance between filter and "lens hood" :

... quick image without filter ...

... and with the ND Grad filter:

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OP 1aTa New Member • Posts: 12
Re: Solution Found !!

Wow thanks for all the suggestions chaps.

The Lee filter looks good but it's rather expensive. The Cokin hack could work but it only leaves space for one filter in the holder. I normally need at least two - one solid and one one grad. I've been trying to find a four filter holder which would at least give two usable slots but I can't find any. How secure is it by the way?

novak977 Senior Member • Posts: 1,400
Re: Solution Found !!

Thanks for the fantastic contribution!
let's recap - I will get 67mm holder and adapter + 10 filters plus box.
But where do I indicate which ones I want?

PhillipA wrote:

.. well kind of

While looking at the wide adapter and a selection of Cokin filter bits, it occured to me that the right sized filter adapter might be able to be made fit on the built in hood of the Sony wide adapter.

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PhillipA Veteran Member • Posts: 5,505
Re: Solution Found !!
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1aTa wrote:

Wow thanks for all the suggestions chaps.

The Lee filter looks good but it's rather expensive. The Cokin hack could work but it only leaves space for one filter in the holder. I normally need at least two - one solid and one one grad. I've been trying to find a four filter holder which would at least give two usable slots but I can't find any. How secure is it by the way?

If you try a 72mm adapter instead of 67mm, it should allow the filter holder to move further forward and will probably enable you to mount 2 filters in the holder.

I don't have a 72mm adapter to try, but they are cheap enough from "linkdelight" to experiment at very little cost.

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npires Senior Member • Posts: 1,731
Re: Solution Found !!

I've got the same setup as PhillipA now (thanks btw) 67mm fits perfectly. I'm not entirely sure 72mm would work to be honest I think it'd be too loose. The better option is trying to find a holder that takes 4 slots (from what I understand it's one of the X-PRO Cokins) but they cost quite a bit. Very secure and easily removed. Thanks for the advice with this one! Very happy that it's all fitted together.

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Hurl New Member • Posts: 10
Re: Solution Found !!

Can you use a circular filter between the 16mm lenses and the ultrawide adapter?

anaksatawo Contributing Member • Posts: 657
filter holder + 67mm ring adapter..

nope, because the vcl-ecu1 is bayonet mount. you might want to check on the p-holder + 67mm ring adapter, its quite a snug fit. i was able to use just one square filter though.

i'll try to upload a picture of the setup.

anaksatawo Contributing Member • Posts: 657
the solution of PhilipA
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i think this is already solved:

Rooru S Contributing Member • Posts: 923
Re: Solution Found !!

Amazing..! Great Idea..!! Thanks for sharing..!

PhillipA wrote:

Here's a few shots of my "brain-storm" :
... filter inserted in holder:

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firepotter New Member • Posts: 1
Re: Solution Found !!

Hello,

I am new here, found your post via google search and it is very helpful!

Couple questions. 1. Is filter holder Cokin P Series using 85mm filter?

2. Do you have any issue with vignetting? with the VCL-ECU1 Ultrawide. Have you tried with VCL-ECF1 Fish eye?

thanks much,

Gary

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