InkTec kit and ink for HP?

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Sucked Dry New Member • Posts: 4
InkTec kit and ink for HP?

I know this forum is mostly for fine photo printing, but I've given up on this with my current printer. I don't want to print photographs. I'm just hoping to beat the outrageous price of ink, while still retaining reasonable quality.

I have an HP PhotoSmart Premium All-in-one Fax, C309a. It uses HP Vivera dye, with HP564 (CMYK +photo black) cartridges. It's supposed to be one of the more economical home inkjet printers, but my actual cost for the first set of cartridges was between 73 and 81 cents/page, for mostly text plus some light graphics! For that price, if coverage had been as advertised, I should have been able to get 100% ink coverage, not including margins. I bought a set of extra large HP cartridges for $105, and ink consumption appears to about the same.

The InkTec refill kit seems unusually easy to use. It has a cradle with a seal to inject ink into the sponge outlet, without piercing the cartridge. This seems like a very attractive option, considering that the other systems all involve taking off the label (seal) or drilling a hole, and then doing a repair.

Has anyone had any experience with this kit and Vivera-compatible dye inks, in terms of practical aspects of use or quality of the ink? For example, I can imagine that there could be a problem with injecting air into the sponge, or long-term degradation of the cartridge, or overly fast fading. (I realize I'll have to turn off the ink-monitoring system after refilling, so I guess we don't need to discuss that.)

Brad99 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,145
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No idea about InkTec and your HP, but I used their ink on an HP5550 (5 colours and photo black) for a couple of years with good colours and no problems beyond what one always gets with refilling HP cartridges type 56, 57 and 58.

Try http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/index.php for more info.

OP Sucked Dry New Member • Posts: 4
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Thanks for a speedy reply!

I take it you use the refill system with the clip or clip or cradle, then, so you're not drilling any holes? And by usual problems, I assume you mean resetting the darned clip--no problems actually filling the cartridge?

And for anyone else answering this thread, there's a picture of an HP564 cartridge opened up here: http://freedomtoprint.com/2010/06/25/review-hp-564-564xl-ink-cartridge-cracked-open-chips/ .

Brad99 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,145
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I think my cartridges were rather different to yours. I didn't have to drill holes as they were already there under the top label. Basically it was in this order:- reset ink level, pull off label, inject inks x3 per cart, refit label, wait several hours before trying it out.

OP Sucked Dry New Member • Posts: 4
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Thanks, good to know the ink is good.

Yes, that is a different filling system. InkTec now has a system that doesn't require taking off the label or drilling any holes. You just push the ink directly into the sponge without opening the cartridge. It's available for HP564 and others, I think also including HP 56/58.

ThrillaMozilla Veteran Member • Posts: 5,943
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I did a little searching and put together some info on fading. I don't have any recent into that's specific to HP, but the InkTec fading resistance has been mostly poor in the past (but there is one favorable review, so who knows?). I'm not sure if this forum will allow me to post the links, but here's what I came up with (also posted on another forum).

There's a little discussion on the nuts and bolts of refilling, starting with message 188, here: http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewto … 5&p=19 .

I did a little searching for fading of InkTec inks, and it doesn't seem to be a pretty picture. None of these has new information for HP, unfortunately, but most of them are unfavorable.

Here's a study from 2007, using cartridges from the InkTecShop. The InkTecShop is a refiller in the UK. Their Web site says they are refillers for InkTec products. This one was pretty bad.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/printers/ … -Part-3/p2

Also there's
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5253
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2662

http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewto … ?pid=34758 (message 7 re InkTec for Canon from pharmacist)

http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3119 (message 2 from pharmacist)
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=655541
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/canon- … 36956.html (Canon again, from 2006)

This one is favorable:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readf … amp;page=4

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Brad99 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,145
Re: InkTec kit and ink for HP?

I haven't had any fading in 10yrs of refilling, then it was Epson but nearly all HP since, nowadays Canon. I don't leave prints exposed to the elements though.

ThrillaMozilla Veteran Member • Posts: 5,943
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Thanks very much. Since I have conflicting information, I'll just have to try it. I have the inks, and I'll make a crude comparison with OEM. Aardenburg has some hints on light brightness and fading. I guess a few months in the sun is a pretty severe test.

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ThrillaMozilla Veteran Member • Posts: 5,943
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My own tests with Inktec ink show that it is fairly fade-resistant on many different media -- contrary to most other published tests. Colored ink is not quite as good as HP ink, but much better than one other popular brand. The results are not in on pigment black (for text), but so far it is doing very well.

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