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e-pl2 red spot problem

Started Jan 15, 2011 | Discussions
hoforum Forum Member • Posts: 75
e-pl2 red spot problem

many users of e-pl2 are experiencing the "red spot(?)" issue when facing direct light sources, would OM pls face it seriously and upload new firmware soon?

the links below are in chinese, u can understand by just seeing the pictures

http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=249&t=1960556&last=25235312

http://www.omuser.com/viewthread.php?tid=144801&extra=page%3D2

http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=249&t=1963275&p=1

http://www.dchome.net/viewthread.php?tid=975244&extra=page%3D1

TEBnewyork
TEBnewyork Forum Pro • Posts: 11,337
Re: e-pl2 red spot problem

Where is the camera being sold right now?
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JosephScha Veteran Member • Posts: 7,227
Re: e-pl2 red spot problem

Wow, that's pretty startling! Since your EPL1 doesn't do that at all, and I haven't heard anyone else complain about this on this forum, I have to think that perhaps there is something that needs to be corrected in your EPL2.

I'm a G10 owner, I hope some EPL2 owners will reply to you.

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OP hoforum Forum Member • Posts: 75
Re: e-pl2 red spot problem

i haven't got one yet,

i just wanted to buy one ...

e-pl2 is better than epl1 in most aspect
better high iso pics
slighter faster focus
much better look
panorama mode
....

but the red spot issues is really awful... looks like the same cmos problem of sigma DP series...which may appear quite frequently in your sunset pics and night scenes...

btw, sorry for my poor english
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OP hoforum Forum Member • Posts: 75
Re: e-pl2 red spot problem

it has been selling in hong kong and taiwan

i dont know if it is available in other areas

twmangrove Regular Member • Posts: 464
Re: e-pl2 red spot problem

Yes, that looks very much like what was happening with the early iteration of the Sigma DP series. I believe it was fixed with later models. That's disappointing, and won't play out well for the roll out of this supposed PL1 step up.

twmangrove Regular Member • Posts: 464
Re: e-pl2 red spot problem

Woah, and what the heck is happening in that last picture on the dchome site? Is that flair, or otherwordly spirits haunting the street (or the machine)?

OP hoforum Forum Member • Posts: 75
Re: e-pl2 red spot problem

oh...that pic?? haha~ a mystery! LOL
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Stanbeck Forum Member • Posts: 82
Re: e-pl2 red spot problem

Maybe error in the Jpeg engine.

The pictures look very sharp. Good dynamic range.

Marla
Marla Veteran Member • Posts: 8,994
Question

Will Olympus actually continue to ship the E-PL2 with this problem? Yikes! I am seriously considering the upgrade.

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OP hoforum Forum Member • Posts: 75
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me too... i hope it can be fixed soon
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Jonas B Forum Pro • Posts: 14,596
Nothing new really

I recall my old Olympus E-510 doing this. Olympus never replied to me when I asked them about the reason (I did not ask for a fix). Later there was some agreement in the Olympus SLR Forum that the problem was related to the hardware, that I had offended Olympus by pointing it out and then we all forgot about it.

I nearly forgot about it as well - to manifest itself you had to stop down to at least f/8 and who does that? Maybe the problem is worse now than it was with the E-510, I don't know.

In real life I never stopped down to a smaller aperture than f/4 or so. Maybe you do, but to f/8 or f/11?

Here is an old flare test from 2007 showing the problem with an Olympus E-510 (to see the right side of the compilation you'll have to click the image, good for anyone contemplating the ZD50/2 and a filter...:

regards,

Jonas

twmangrove Regular Member • Posts: 464
Re: e-pl2 red spot problem

Just wanted to add that, apart from the red spot issue, the pics look pretty fine. Nice colour, decent sharpness. Like the dramatic tone effect. High ISO pretty decent.

I guess you just have to make sure the sun isn't overhead, or you're not shooting at night with streetlights in the frame. There's another shot in the Flickr EPL2 set with vehicles and streetlights in the background with a rather bad red halo of light around the bulbs. By the way, if that set is yours, it looks like you got the camera for largely the same reason I am - baby/family photos. Watch the kid with remote controls - my little boy got a hold of our remote for the television and to this day we still can't find it (mind you, we're usually too tired to search).

MichaelKJ Veteran Member • Posts: 3,466
Re: Nothing new really

From what I can understand using Google translate, it says there are photos with the problem at F5.6.

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Tim in upstate NY
Tim in upstate NY Veteran Member • Posts: 7,120
Not a problem in the DPR samples gallery

hoforum wrote:

many users of e-pl2 are experiencing the "red spot(?)" issue when facing direct light sources, would OM pls face it seriously and upload new firmware soon?

the links below are in chinese, u can understand by just seeing the pictures

http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=249&t=1960556&last=25235312

http://www.omuser.com/viewthread.php?tid=144801&extra=page%3D2

http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=249&t=1963275&p=1

http://www.dchome.net/viewthread.php?tid=975244&extra=page%3D1

. . . I did Google translations of all five of those links and looked closely at the photos. I then went to the DPReview samples gallery for the E-PL2. If you look closely at the first two photos in DPR's samples gallery, you'll see that's there's no problem at all with those shots in similar settings as the ones from China posted in your links.

. . . So I don't have anything to say about those multiple spectral highlights (ghosting?) effects that have been posted in those links from China except to say that I trust DPR's Barney-Britton as a capable photographer and have no idea what those Chinese photos mean or how those results were produced.

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Jonas B Forum Pro • Posts: 14,596
Re: Nothing new really

MichaelKJ wrote:

From what I can understand using Google translate, it says there are photos with the problem at F5.6.

I see. Then it is worse now, or "they" are more critical than I was in 2007. In my opinion it should be safe stopping down to f/5.6. In which link did you find the f/5.6 problem?

Jonas

TsfM Forum Member • Posts: 69
Re: e-pl2 red spot problem

If taken with the new kit lens, could this be due to the missing ED glass?

I'm not 100% sure the new 14-42 kit lens has no ED glass, but it's no longer mentioned in the lens name nor graphic. I actually asked about this in another thread:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1041&thread=37458453

Bobo Hodls
Bobo Hodls Forum Pro • Posts: 40,425
Is it the EPL2, or the lens?

That looks more like a characteristic of glass than it does the processing from the sensor.

No?

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MichaelKJ Veteran Member • Posts: 3,466
Re: Nothing new really

In the first link, just above the third photo, the Google translation says

The first floor is the F22 shot, but there is F5.6, and the same goes as the following

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Jonas B Forum Pro • Posts: 14,596
Re: Is it the EPL2, or the lens?

Bob Tullis wrote:

That looks more like a characteristic of glass than it does the processing from the sensor.

No?

No. I got that with several different lenses. What makes you think the lens makes that?

Jonas

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