The Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.4D on M4/3

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Tesselator Senior Member • Posts: 1,031
The Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.4D on M4/3

Here's some images I took about 12 hours ago here in Japan with the Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.4D on my GH1. The lens sells for $990 ~ $1,200 used and has the best color rendering of any of the lenses I've tried so far. None of the following images have had the exposure values, color, or contrast changed in post. This is slightly amazing as they were taken on an overcast dull and darkish day. Maybe my camera just takes better images when it's 7 degrees celsius outside? Very little sharpening was added (0.3 pixel radius at usually less than 50%) and the 100% images looked very much like these scales.

Hey, I'm impressed!

F/1.4, 1/125s, ISO100, Camera: GH1, Image Digitized: 2011:01:02, 13:38:27

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F/1.4, 1/400s, ISO100, Camera: GH1, Image Digitized: 2011:01:02, 15:48:20

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F/1.4, 1/125s, ISO100, Camera: GH1, Image Digitized: 2011:01:02, 16:05:25

I missed the focus a little bit on this one - you can see that the buds don't look as perfectly pin-sharp as I saw in the finder. I still like it tho!

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f/1.4, 1/640s, ISO100, Camera: GH1, Image Digitized: 2011:01:02, 15:54:31

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f/1.4,1/200s, ISO100, Camera: GH1, Image Digitized: 2011:01:02, 16:08:20

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f/1.4, 1/400s, ISO100, Camera: GH1, Image Digitized: 2011:01:02, 13:32:56

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!-Enjoy.

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csayer New Member • Posts: 10
Re: The Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.4D on M4/3

what make of adapter do you have.

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Reto Regular Member • Posts: 461
Stunning images, congratulations!
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downtownfish Forum Member • Posts: 69
Re: Stunning images, congratulations!

I know you said no PP, but what setting was the color set to? Vivid?

OP Tesselator Senior Member • Posts: 1,031
Re: The Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.4D on M4/3

csayer wrote:

what make of adapter do you have.

I knew I was going to be testing all kinds of lenses so I bought one of everything that Rainbow imaging (on e-pay) offers. The seller and I became friends to some extent and he told me that there's only a few (like, 2 or 3) factories in Hong Kong (where he's from) that make and "rebrand" all of the adaptors that are available (not including those directly from Panasonic, Sony, and Olympus). This includes sellers such as Novoflex and etc. So far they all seem perfect! None too tight, none too loose, flange dimensions are perfectly to specification, etc.

This jives with what I know about HK manufacturing too. Product designs are "shared" (stolen or given) between manufacturers. So as soon as you or I design something for a HK maker to make, everyone has it and unofficial knock-offs from the same and different manufacturer (often the same owner under a different co. name) are everywhere within days. This often goes for bigger stuff too like CD players, MP3 devices, stereos, etc. etc. If you wish to give away your design just have a HK manufacturer manufacture it.

Anyway, that answers your question and then some probably.

OP Tesselator Senior Member • Posts: 1,031
Re: Stunning images, congratulations!

I totally agree!

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Thanks!

downtownfish wrote:

I know you said no PP, but what setting was the color set to? Vivid?

Well, there was some sharpening done - that's PP. But for camera settings I shoot RAW so no menu settings have any affect at all. I never use JPEG or other formats so I dunno what the tags (which are included with the RAW files!) are set to. AdobeRGB is set to ON but that again has no actual affect on RAW files. I bring them into ACR and instruct ACR to assemble a ProPhoto ICC for the images. From there I do whatever I need to in PS, then scale for web and convert to sRGB just before saving the scale of it. There's also an interim save where it's saved full sized in ProPhoto in the PSD file format.

I usually process images via a medium sized script in PS CS5 and then turn on or off various script steps depending what the source images are like and what the desired output is. For these I had to (wanted to), turn off everything except the after-scale sharpening and the scaling itself. They were already so sharp that pre-scale sharpening just added halos and already so vivid and rich in color that the Auto-curves and Shadows/Highlights steps just made them into gaudy messes. So all those things got turned off for the babysitted batching I do. It made the process fly too! Usually it takes about 4 to 7 min. per file but these were less than 1min. each. I see why people spend extra money for nice lenses!

Anfy
Anfy Veteran Member • Posts: 3,465
Chapeau!

To the photographer, to the lens too.

Ciao!!!

Tesselator wrote:

Here's some images I took about 12 hours ago here in Japan with the Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.4D on my GH1. The lens sells for $990 ~ $1,200 used and has the best color rendering of any of the lenses I've tried so far. None of the following images have had the exposure values, color, or contrast changed in post. This is slightly amazing as they were taken on an overcast dull and darkish day. Maybe my camera just takes better images when it's 7 degrees celsius outside? Very little sharpening was added (0.3 pixel radius at usually less than 50%) and the 100% images looked very much like these scales.

Hey, I'm impressed!

F/1.4, 1/125s, ISO100, Camera: GH1, Image Digitized: 2011:01:02, 13:38:27

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F/1.4, 1/400s, ISO100, Camera: GH1, Image Digitized: 2011:01:02, 15:48:20

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F/1.4, 1/125s, ISO100, Camera: GH1, Image Digitized: 2011:01:02, 16:05:25

I missed the focus a little bit on this one - you can see that the buds don't look as perfectly pin-sharp as I saw in the finder. I still like it tho!

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f/1.4, 1/640s, ISO100, Camera: GH1, Image Digitized: 2011:01:02, 15:54:31

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f/1.4,1/200s, ISO100, Camera: GH1, Image Digitized: 2011:01:02, 16:08:20

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f/1.4, 1/400s, ISO100, Camera: GH1, Image Digitized: 2011:01:02, 13:32:56

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!-Enjoy.

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gulffish
gulffish Senior Member • Posts: 2,179
Re: The Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.4D on M4/3

Terrific shots, well done. Another lens you may enjoy is the MF Nikkor 50mm f1.2 AiS, great detail, color rendering and DOF. Used in EX condition around $450.
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capt3450 Regular Member • Posts: 190
Re: The Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.4D on M4/3

Tesselator wrote:

So as soon as you or I design something for a HK maker to make, everyone has it and unofficial knock-offs from the same and different manufacturer (often the same owner under a different co. name) are everywhere within days. This often goes for bigger stuff too like CD players, MP3 devices, stereos, etc. etc. If you wish to give away your design just have a HK manufacturer manufacture it.

Ask your HK's friend speedup their production of knock-off GH2's battery will you?

pablolie Contributing Member • Posts: 671
Re: The Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.4D on M4/3

Love the first one.

My very personal reaction to some of the other ones is that in some (especially the last, I recall) the DOF effect is overdone for no reason I can see. I find such razor sharp DOF that blends everything in that back into a semi-gray blur a tad disorienting.

Again, brilliant first shot - great composition and good use of blur.

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kennett Contributing Member • Posts: 835
Re: The Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.4D on M4/3

Great images, I love shallow DOF, and I have that lens as well for my D700 not even considered using it on the G1

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MNE Senior Member • Posts: 1,299
Re: The Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.4D on M4/3

They are really beautiful images .. thanks for sharing.

Through my experience with the 85 1.4 and 1.8 Nikon lenses I found they produce much better bokeh than what you have here. The 85 1.4 was a standard Nikon portrait lens for many years.

OP Tesselator Senior Member • Posts: 1,031
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capt3450 wrote:

Tesselator wrote:

So as soon as you or I design something for a HK maker to make, everyone has it and unofficial knock-offs from the same and different manufacturer (often the same owner under a different co. name) are everywhere within days. This often goes for bigger stuff too like CD players, MP3 devices, stereos, etc. etc. If you wish to give away your design just have a HK manufacturer manufacture it.

Ask your HK's friend speedup their production of knock-off GH2's battery will you?

Hehehe...

OP Tesselator Senior Member • Posts: 1,031
Re: Chapeau!

Thanks!

Anfy wrote:
To the photographer, to the lens too.

Ciao!!!

Tesselator wrote:

Here's some images I took about 12 hours ago here in Japan with the Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.4D on my GH1. The lens sells for $990 ~ $1,200 used and has the best color rendering of any of the lenses I've tried so far. None of the following images have had the exposure values, color, or contrast changed in post. This is slightly amazing as they were taken on an overcast dull and darkish day. Maybe my camera just takes better images when it's 7 degrees celsius outside? Very little sharpening was added (0.3 pixel radius at usually less than 50%) and the 100% images looked very much like these scales.

Hey, I'm impressed!

http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/_Image_By_Lens/Nikkor_AF_85mm_F1.4D/_1040464.jpg
F/1.4, 1/125s, ISO100, Camera: GH1, Image Digitized: 2011:01:02, 13:38:27

http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/_Image_By_Lens/Nikkor_AF_85mm_F1.4D/_1040690.jpg
F/1.4, 1/400s, ISO100, Camera: GH1, Image Digitized: 2011:01:02, 15:48:20

http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/_Image_By_Lens/Nikkor_AF_85mm_F1.4D/_1040726.jpg
F/1.4, 1/125s, ISO100, Camera: GH1, Image Digitized: 2011:01:02, 16:05:25

I missed the focus a little bit on this one - you can see that the buds don't look as perfectly pin-sharp as I saw in the finder. I still like it tho!

http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/_Image_By_Lens/Nikkor_AF_85mm_F1.4D/_1040701.jpg
f/1.4, 1/640s, ISO100, Camera: GH1, Image Digitized: 2011:01:02, 15:54:31

http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/_Image_By_Lens/Nikkor_AF_85mm_F1.4D/_1040731.jpg
f/1.4,1/200s, ISO100, Camera: GH1, Image Digitized: 2011:01:02, 16:08:20

http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/_Image_By_Lens/Nikkor_AF_85mm_F1.4D/_1040452.jpg
f/1.4, 1/400s, ISO100, Camera: GH1, Image Digitized: 2011:01:02, 13:32:56

!-Enjoy.

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OP Tesselator Senior Member • Posts: 1,031
Re: The Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.4D on M4/3

gulffish wrote:

Terrific shots, well done. Another lens you may enjoy is the MF Nikkor 50mm f1.2 AiS, great detail, color rendering and DOF. Used in EX condition around $450.

Thanks Kirk,

Yeah, I've been looking for a deal on that one. Still looking and waiting tho.

OP Tesselator Senior Member • Posts: 1,031
Re: The Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.4D on M4/3

pablolie wrote:

Love the first one.

My very personal reaction to some of the other ones is that in some (especially the last, I recall) the DOF effect is overdone for no reason I can see. I find such razor sharp DOF that blends everything in that back into a semi-gray blur a tad disorienting.

Again, brilliant first shot - great composition and good use of blur.

Thanks. Yeah, I've heard other people saying the same thing. They do seem to by the minority... Usually it's abut one in ten who think or say so. I know what you mean and can see both sides of it. For me tho it's a sample or indicator of the lens's ability - it wasn't incorporated to make the shot's aesthetics really. But those who like are welcome to just as well.

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Re: The Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.4D on M4/3

kennett wrote:

Great images, I love shallow DOF, and I have that lens as well for my D700 not even considered using it on the G1

Thanks!

Wow,, you have lenses that you haven't considered using in every possible way? ??? hehehe... j/k.

OP Tesselator Senior Member • Posts: 1,031
Re: The Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.4D on M4/3

MNE wrote:

They are really beautiful images .. thanks for sharing.

Through my experience with the 85 1.4 and 1.8 Nikon lenses I found they produce much better bokeh than what you have here. The 85 1.4 was a standard Nikon portrait lens for many years.

Thanks!

True. The BGs in my shots are quite busy. Most other lenses would look just terrible with such backgrounds. This lens made it almost pleasant. I can imagine what it would be like if the BGs were better suited for heavy bokeh.

David Gore Veteran Member • Posts: 4,512
Re: The Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.4D on M4/3

After reading your post I tried my 85mm on my ep-2.having a stabilized body enabled me to shoot at 1/20th of a sec and produced stunning pictures..Looks really cool on the ep-2 as well
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