Eye-Fi card in a 1D MK IV

Started Dec 22, 2010 | Discussions
Eric Gill Contributing Member • Posts: 570
Re: Eye-Fi card in a 1D MK IV

The app Fe-Fi looks to be a better alternative.

If you need to transmit the pics on, there are a number of ftp or sync programs that will watch a folder.

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Ziv Gillat Regular Member • Posts: 153
Re: Eye-Fi card in a 1D MK IV

It can be done easily. Look at Rob Galbraith's iPad write-up, which is VERY detailed, and also read F-Stoppers write-up. Going directly from the Eye-Fi Card to the iPad is easy

Ziv Gillat Regular Member • Posts: 153
Re: Eye-Fi card in a 1D MK IV

On Android -- all we can say is -- stay tuned. We can't pre-announce our projects/products, but just stay tuned via our mailing list, facebook, twitter, blog, etc...

Ziv Gillat Regular Member • Posts: 153
Re: Eye-Fi card in a 1D MK IV

I hav yet to try Fe-Fi, but it was built by one of our customers, which is totally awesome. I'll check it out, and report back. There is also an Eye-Fi server built by Leshak, for the Android, but when I tried to use it, a few months ago, it didn't work. I contacted the developer, but he didn't respond.

So just stay tuned, and more solutions will pop-up.

PhotoKhan Forum Pro • Posts: 10,551
Re: Eye-Fi card in a 1D MK IV

Ziv Gillat wrote:

PhotoKhan wrote:

It breaks one's heart one a great idea product fails on the Customer Support side.

What a sad waste...

Please see my response. We usually get raves about our support, so we'll make sure to fix this case.

Glad to see you're on top of things, support-wise, Ziv

Read all your replies in this thread, also.

Can't wait for those Android news. Just got a Samsung Galaxy Tab and really need that applet to consider buying an eye-fi Pro x2. For the moment I subscribed to the email list.

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24Peter
24Peter Veteran Member • Posts: 3,151
Re: Eye-Fi card in a 1D MK IV

I just ordered one from Amazon for my 60D to give it a try. I don't have a tablet or iPad yet, but just being able to view/check photos quickly on my desktop computer without shutting down the camera and without having to shoot tethered will be very helpful (plus the $50 Amazon gift card I got for Xmas makes it a really good deal )
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Phil
Phil Veteran Member • Posts: 3,141
Re: Eye-Fi card in a 1D MK IV

Ziv,

Any plans to create an 8meg Pro in a CF card format?

5D MKII owners don't have an SD slot and the CF to SD adpaters all apear to have SS skins making the Wi-Fi range non exsistant.
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OP txww Regular Member • Posts: 202
Re: Eye-Fi card in a 1D MK IV

Ziv Gillat wrote:

Hi,

My name is Ziv Gillat, and I'm one of the Eye-Fi co-founders. I'm not 100% familiar with the 1DmkIV, but it IS Eye-Fi Connected, which means that it will stay on, as long as the card has to upload, and once the card is done, the camera will turn off.

In terms of combos to the CF + SD slot, I'm going to assume that it's just like my D300s. You should be able to shoot RAW to the CF slot, and JPG to the SD slot. RAW + JPG to both. failover, backup, etc...

In terms of specs:

12MBps write speeds (mega bytes per second)
12mbps transfer speeds (mega bits per second)

So if you have, say, a 3MB file, it'll take about 2 seconds. A 30MB file, 15-20 seconds.

Thx --

Ziv.

Ziv, thanks for the tech details. I think it will work for me and what I'm tring to do. Going out and get one this week. Will report back on how it works out.

customminds Senior Member • Posts: 1,282
submitting your info for a working card?

tell us if you still have to submit your email to them before you can use it.

(i figure if i troll on these long enough, eye-fi will get the hint collecting user data isn't always as important as company image.)

txww wrote:

Ziv Gillat wrote:

Hi,

My name is Ziv Gillat, and I'm one of the Eye-Fi co-founders. I'm not 100% familiar with the 1DmkIV, but it IS Eye-Fi Connected, which means that it will stay on, as long as the card has to upload, and once the card is done, the camera will turn off.

In terms of combos to the CF + SD slot, I'm going to assume that it's just like my D300s. You should be able to shoot RAW to the CF slot, and JPG to the SD slot. RAW + JPG to both. failover, backup, etc...

In terms of specs:

12MBps write speeds (mega bytes per second)
12mbps transfer speeds (mega bits per second)

So if you have, say, a 3MB file, it'll take about 2 seconds. A 30MB file, 15-20 seconds.

Thx --

Ziv.

Ziv, thanks for the tech details. I think it will work for me and what I'm tring to do. Going out and get one this week. Will report back on how it works out.

RCstudio Regular Member • Posts: 144
Re: Eye-Fi card in a 1D MK IV

Had tried a Eye-Fi card last year. Horribly slow so I sent it back to where I bought it.

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marcus2137 Regular Member • Posts: 113
Use it on 1ds3

I have a 4gb card on my 1ds3 that works great. I have a large CF card in for raw pictures, but the eyefi is great for jpegs (mine is the non-pro, so it doesn't transfer raw). I use the eyefi unless I have to shoot raw or need tons of card space, and it has been great.

The interesting thing is that the wireless network I was on when I first got the card was ok, but seemed a little slow. It took about 10second to transfer a Large jpeg. But I'm using a different network now and it's MUCH faster, so there must be some settings that really matter. Actually, my new network is a 802.11N network and I don't think the last one was, so that might be the difference I'm seeing. Now, on my network, it takes about 2-3 seconds to transfer a full-res Large 1ds3 jpeg, and any lower resolution jpeg (M1, M2, S) is almost instantaneous. A M2 jpeg seems to upload in less than a second, which is about as fast as I can take it unless using burst.

24Peter
24Peter Veteran Member • Posts: 3,151
Re: Use it on 1ds3

I installed my 8GB X2 Pro Eye-Fi yesterday. Seems to be working OK. I'm on a 802.11g network and it takes 6-7 seconds to transfer large .jpegs from my 60D. Right now that's acceptable, though I may consider a "N" router in the future.

Overall I think it's a good product (I'm sure a lot went into creating, marketing and distributing this.) The only gotcha for me is I have a desktop & laptop on the same network. I basically wanted the files to automatically transfer to whichever computer I am running at a given time (I don't usually have both going). No go. You have to manually select which computer files are transferred to by inserting the Eye-Fi card in the computer and then going into the settings. I'd like to see this remedied in the future to either automatically detect which computer is running, or at least a way to set a priority as to which computer gets the files.

I'm also interested in setting up an ad hoc network between the card and my laptop for when I'm off site. But 1) there is no easy/obvious way to do this from the Eye-Fi Center software, and 2) I read elsewhere there may be a conflict because neither the card nor the camera let you prioritize which networks are connected to, but rather default to the first network connection you establish. Might not be a big deal for me, since when I'm off-site my regular network won't appear and hopefully the ad hoc network settings will kick in. We'll have to see.

I have no interest in automatically uploading photos to photo sharing/social networking sites, nor am I interested in on-line storage. So for me, the Eye-Fi is kind of a one-trick pony. But preliminary tests for this purpose seem OK.
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Ziv Gillat Regular Member • Posts: 153
Re: Eye-Fi card in a 1D MK IV

Phil wrote:

Ziv,

Any plans to create an 8meg Pro in a CF card format?

5D MKII owners don't have an SD slot and the CF to SD adpaters all apear to have SS skins making the Wi-Fi range non exsistant.
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Phil,

Sorry, but we don't pre-announce our plans. That said, there is tons of info, and even a solution for the 5DmkII which is UNSUPPORTED here:

http://forums.eye.fi/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1352&start=15#p12692

Thx --

Ziv.

Ziv Gillat Regular Member • Posts: 153
Re: Eye-Fi card in a 1D MK IV

txww wrote:

Ziv, thanks for the tech details. I think it will work for me and what I'm tring to do. Going out and get one this week. Will report back on how it works out.

Great. Keep us posted

Ziv Gillat Regular Member • Posts: 153
Re: submitting your info for a working card?

customminds wrote:

tell us if you still have to submit your email to them before you can use it.

(i figure if i troll on these long enough, eye-fi will get the hint collecting user data isn't always as important as company image.)

Yes, we require you to create an account, that's tied to an email address, as part of the Eye-Fi card Registration step. If you feel that you don't like this step, feel free to use a fake email address. We don't require a valid address.

Thx --

Ziv.

Ziv Gillat Regular Member • Posts: 153
Re: Eye-Fi card in a 1D MK IV

RCstudio wrote:

Had tried a Eye-Fi card last year. Horribly slow so I sent it back to where I bought it.

At 12mbps transfer speed, it's actually faster than grip solutions that cost much much more

Ziv Gillat Regular Member • Posts: 153
Re: Use it on 1ds3

marcus2137 wrote:

I have a 4gb card on my 1ds3 that works great. I have a large CF card in for raw pictures, but the eyefi is great for jpegs (mine is the non-pro, so it doesn't transfer raw). I use the eyefi unless I have to shoot raw or need tons of card space, and it has been great.

The interesting thing is that the wireless network I was on when I first got the card was ok, but seemed a little slow. It took about 10second to transfer a Large jpeg. But I'm using a different network now and it's MUCH faster, so there must be some settings that really matter. Actually, my new network is a 802.11N network and I don't think the last one was, so that might be the difference I'm seeing. Now, on my network, it takes about 2-3 seconds to transfer a full-res Large 1ds3 jpeg, and any lower resolution jpeg (M1, M2, S) is almost instantaneous. A M2 jpeg seems to upload in less than a second, which is about as fast as I can take it unless using burst.

Ziv Gillat Regular Member • Posts: 153
Re: Use it on 1ds3

24Peter wrote:

I installed my 8GB X2 Pro Eye-Fi yesterday. Seems to be working OK. I'm on a 802.11g network and it takes 6-7 seconds to transfer large .jpegs from my 60D. Right now that's acceptable, though I may consider a "N" router in the future.

Having an N router should help speed things up a bit.

Overall I think it's a good product (I'm sure a lot went into creating, marketing and distributing this.) The only gotcha for me is I have a desktop & laptop on the same network. I basically wanted the files to automatically transfer to whichever computer I am running at a given time (I don't usually have both going). No go. You have to manually select which computer files are transferred to by inserting the Eye-Fi card in the computer and then going into the settings. I'd like to see this remedied in the future to either automatically detect which computer is running, or at least a way to set a priority as to which computer gets the files.

It's done for security reasons. You can get around it by using 3rd party file and/or folder sync tools. Some are free, and some cost a tiny bit.

You don't need to insert the card, to switch computers. Just run the Eye-Fi Center on the new computer, and set that computer as the local destination. Your card can stay in your 60D.

I'm also interested in setting up an ad hoc network between the card and my laptop for when I'm off site. But 1) there is no easy/obvious way to do this from the

Please browse our forums and support sites for help on ad-hoc. Depending on what OS you're on, it could be super easy, or super hard. On OS X -- it's as easy as 1 click. On Win XP for example, it's nearly impossible. On Win7 it's great. There is tons of info on our site. My favorite method of adding ad-hoc is adding a known SSID to my card, like "Ziv1", as an "out-of-range" network. That way, I know that I have a network that's named "Ziv1" that my card knows about. If I start ad-hoc on my MacBook Pro, and name my network Ziv1, that's all it takes

Eye-Fi Center software, and 2) I read elsewhere there may be a conflict because neither the card nor the camera let you prioritize which networks are connected to, but rather default to the first network connection you establish. Might not be a big deal for me, since when I'm off-site my regular network won't appear and hopefully the ad hoc network settings will kick in. We'll have to see.

The card uses heuristics and will do the "right thing". For example - if you have an ad-hoc network stored on the card, and you're around both an ad-hoc and infrastructure network, the card will opt to get onto the ad-hoc network. If you're around an open network, AND a secured known SSID -- the card will opt to connect to the secured network. Etc... I think that you'll find that in most/all cases -- it does the right thing.

I have no interest in automatically uploading photos to photo sharing/social networking sites, nor am I interested in on-line storage. So for me, the Eye-Fi is kind of a one-trick pony. But preliminary tests for this purpose seem OK.

Great. Feel free to browse our forums for more tips/tricks.

Buffalo Wolff New Member • Posts: 2
Re: Use it on 1ds3

A little press release from eye-fi regarding mobile phone apps actually doing what at least I'm looking for!

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/04/eye-fis-direct-mode-unites-phone-and-camera-in-holy-matrimony/

Peter Galbavy Senior Member • Posts: 1,018
Re: Eye-Fi card in a 1D MK IV

Worth knowing, if the IV is the same as the 1DsIII:

You MUST select the SD card for "Playback" in the camera menus for the Lock button to mark the files on the Eye-Fi card as read-only and hence selectively shared. I normally "Playback" from the CF card and this bit me and has driven me a little mad in the last day or so.

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