HS-10 - Have You Ever ...

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Lloydy
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HS-10 - Have You Ever ...

... Ever tried using AF 'Tracking' ?

You push the AF button, select Tracking, use the four way controller to initiate tracking, take the shot, use the four way controller to cancel the tracking, repeat procedure ......

Way back, the first time I played with AF Tracking, the above procedure really annoyed me. I had the impression that it was a function I just wouldn't bother with.

Yesterday, I took the Beast to get washed and thought I would play around with AF Tracking while I was waiting.

Surprise ! You don't need do any of the above procedure. Simply, turn on AF Tracking, and compose and shoot. After the shot it is ready to go again.

It may be my imagination, but I also think the camera focuses more quickly with AF Tracking on.

I took about 100 images of traffic and the camera didn't miss focus on any. Basically, I would select a subject, let it track through the frame for about 50 metres and shoot.

For the rest of the day I just left it on and happily snapped away. Works fine for non moving subjects also.

Anyway, give it a try for yourself.

Cheers.

Some pix here, more at the blog :

http://eyemindsoul.blogspot.com/2010/11/out-again.html

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2raj Senior Member • Posts: 2,172
Lloydy ...

Great series.

I was not quite sure how the AF Tracking worked when I got the camera and never bothered to try it again.

Are you saying, there is no need to use the 4-way tracker to set the focus-point when using Tracking?
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Lloydy
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2Raj ...

... Thanks.

Just turn it on and use as per any other mode. When you half press the shutter it will focus and track. No need to use the four way controller.

Just to give you an idea, I tracked the motorcycle in the shot below from before the corner behind him.

Cheers.

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WIZZARD0003 Senior Member • Posts: 1,686
Re: HS-10 - Have You Ever ...

This is quite interesting... I've never even tried tracking, something to keep in mind for sure...

Great series both here and at the blog...!
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Lloydy
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Wizzard ...

... Thanks.

Up until now, I have mostly been using AF Centre. I think this is better.

Cheers.
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WIZZARD0003 Senior Member • Posts: 1,686
Re: Lloydy ...

2raj wrote:

Great series.

I was not quite sure how the AF Tracking worked when I got the camera and never bothered to try it again.

Are you saying, there is no need to use the 4-way tracker to set the focus-point when using Tracking?

I'm wondering if maybe the 4-way is more useful for setting tracking when you are shooting video and using the LCD...? Example, you set the subject to track and then start the video...
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Lloydy
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Wizzard ...

... I never shoot video, but just tried it. Seems like it doesn't use AF Tracking in video mode.

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WIZZARD0003 Senior Member • Posts: 1,686
Re: Wizzard ...

Lloydy wrote:

... I never shoot video, but just tried it. Seems like it doesn't use AF Tracking in video mode.

Was that with AF-C...?

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Lloydy
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Wizzard ...

... If you select AF-C, then AF Tracking turns off.

Cheers.
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WIZZARD0003 Senior Member • Posts: 1,686
Re: Wizzard ...

Lloydy wrote:

... If you select AF-C, then AF Tracking turns off.

Interesting...

I wonder why they bothered with the 4-way then seeing as it doesn't work with video and the half shutter press is more intuitive and makes more sense...? It's like adding a 2 step procedure to replace a 1 step procedure...
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Lloydy
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Correction ...

... I just read the manual about AF Tracking. It's usually the last thing I do

You need to use the four way controller if you want the focus area to follow the subject through the frame. In other words, the 'box' will move around the frame as the subject moves.

If you just half-press, then the focus box stays in the centre, but it still 'tracks'.

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WIZZARD0003 Senior Member • Posts: 1,686
Re: Correction ...

Lloydy wrote:

... I just read the manual about AF Tracking. It's usually the last thing I do

You need to use the four way controller if you want the focus area to follow the subject through the frame. In other words, the 'box' will move around the frame as the subject moves.

If you just half-press, then the focus box stays in the centre, but it still 'tracks'.

Ah, there's the reason for the 4-way... Could be useful for traking something like BIF as it can be difficult keeping the subject in the center of the frame...

May also be useful when shooting something like sports when you want to track a particular subject but don't necessarily want the subject to be center frame...
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Lloydy
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Another Use ...

... After figuring out that the focus 'box' moves around the frame, if you select it with the four way controller, I thought about using it to focus/recompose.

The image below is a very 'quick and dirty' example.

What I did was to centre the camera on the word Principle (Dilbert Principle book), select the focus with the four way controller, and then recompose. The focus box stayed on the word Principle. Cool stuff !!

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Lloydy
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Wizzard ...

... The more I play with this, the more useful I think it is. Have a look at my 'Another Use' post also.

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Stephen 06 Senior Member • Posts: 1,569
Re: Correction ...

Lloydy wrote:

... I just read the manual about AF Tracking. It's usually the last thing I do

You need to use the four way controller if you want the focus area to follow the subject through the frame. In other words, the 'box' will move around the frame as the subject moves.

If you just half-press, then the focus box stays in the centre, but it still 'tracks'.

Cheers.

Dave.......How does the tracking works on the HS10?

I think on most cameras it tracks by color. Example: What ever area you begin with as your focus point, the AF will note the color in the area you locked onto, and it will track that color across the frame.

An example would be if you happen to lock onto a blue shirt on a person, it will track that blue color across the frame. Work a treat in a lot of cases but it still can be easily fooled. It's worth noting why it gets fooled so that people know what's going on. Because when it does get fooled, it gives the impression that the camera's AF has gone bonkers!!

Example: If your subject moves into a area with a similar blue background....the AF can "jump" from your subject and lock onto the background instead. Another scenario is if someone else have a similar color shirt (like a football players on the same team)....it's possible for the AF to "jump" from your subject onto a different player if they cross paths and he could head off to a different direction into the frame.

That has been my own experiences with AF tracking that uses color to track a subject. It might be different for the HS10 hence why i'm asking.

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Stephen

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Re: Wizzard ...

This may be better than the "half press and recompose" method, in some shots, as sometimes in recomposing, using the half press method, the focus can change because the subject can move out of the DOF when moving the camera... This would help keep it always in focus it seems...

Be interesting to see how well both methods may work at the long end of the lens with things like tiny birds and other creatures...?
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Lloydy
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Stephen ...

... Good point, but I really have no idea how it works.

Yesterday, I took a couple of hundred images with it on. The couple of times I got an unusable image were from camera shake.

With the moving subjects, there was no image where it 'lost' the subject.

Cheers.

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Stephen 06 Senior Member • Posts: 1,569
Re: Stephen ...

Lloydy wrote:

... Good point, but I really have no idea how it works.

Yesterday, I took a couple of hundred images with it on. The couple of times I got an unusable image were from camera shake.

With the moving subjects, there was no image where it 'lost' the subject.

Sounds good and it seems to work pretty well for you. It could prove to be a very useful feature and make life easier for sports or tracking kids running about.

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Stephen

loekids Regular Member • Posts: 393
Re: HS-10 - Have You Ever ...

Thanks Dave,

I was thinking about AF-Tracking when I tried to capture birds, plane, etc. But, only thinking, not trying yet. Glad you noticed it. Do you think it is more effective than the AF-Center in capturing moving object?

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