Need small bounce flash for 4/3

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George Lechter Senior Member • Posts: 1,564
Need small bounce flash for 4/3

Have small bounce for Nikon and and Canon. But Oly bounce (the 36) is twice the size as the Nikon or Canon flash.

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papillon_65
papillon_65 Forum Pro • Posts: 27,030
Re: Need small bounce flash for 4/3

The old OM TM32 flash will work in manual mode and the FL20 should work on auto mode. These are both a lot smaller than the FL36.
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OP George Lechter Senior Member • Posts: 1,564
Re: Need small bounce flash for 4/3

FL20 will not bounce

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adech Regular Member • Posts: 413
Re: Need small bounce flash for 4/3

I was looking for a small flash that is better than the flash for the DP1s and my friend suggested that A mode works wonders for him with the Metz.

i bought the metz 20 BC 6 second hand and it was annoying as it always flashed at max and was annoying to the eye. It is not bounce though.

i still did not give up and ended up ordering a brand new metz 20 c2 with bounce flash for my DP1s and Olympus EP2. If I remember correctly it was either 2.8 or 5.6 A mode. I used exposure compensation or used ISO for compensation most of the time. Direct flash seems to be a hit and miss with 70% accuracy. However, the bounce did not work out too well for me as it is usually underexposed. but my point is...look for something that is not this one as it didnt work out for me.

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Bobby Handal Veteran Member • Posts: 5,575
something exactly like this....

The sunpak rd2000 would be fantastic if they made them for micro four thirds:

it uses only 2 AA batteries !

The hotshoe stores into itself, so the flash uses very little space in camera bag!!

although this particular flash is for nikon cameras, it works ok, sometimes is a little unpredictable but it works.

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Godfrey Forum Pro • Posts: 29,403
Re: Need small bounce flash for 4/3

George Lechter wrote:

Have small bounce for Nikon and and Canon. But Oly bounce (the 36) is twice the size as the Nikon or Canon flash.

I use the Olympus FL36 when I want a fully compatible dedicated flash. It's small enough and works well.

When I don't need the compatibility and I want really small, I carry a Nikon SB30 and an Olympus CB-FL05 coiled flash cable or an RF trigger set. I can point the flash any way I want that way.
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Re: something exactly like this....

Thank you for sharing and photos that worth millions...
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tyroiii Regular Member • Posts: 115
Re: something exactly like this....

Has anyone tried the Vivitar 183?

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Regis Ter Regular Member • Posts: 223
Re: Need small bounce flash for 4/3

I use a Metz 20C2. It's a good flash, not that powerful though but good enough for general use. It tilts (but doesn't swivel) so that you can get a decent bounce from the ceiling (if it's not too high) or from a simple reflector (I use a light grey cardboard…).

It is not TTL, but it's very cheap, it's simple (set the EP-1 in manual mode at 5.6 and you're done), it works well… what else can I say ? I would think this is the kind of unit you're looking for.

Guy Parsons
Guy Parsons Forum Pro • Posts: 30,330
Use the Nikon or Canon?

George Lechter wrote:

Have small bounce for Nikon and and Canon. But Oly bounce (the 36) is twice the size as the Nikon or Canon flash.

If the Nikon or Canon flashes have a self-auto setting then use them. Match the camera settings in manual mode with set ISO to the flash settings and fine tune and from then on the self-auto is as good as TTL in my experience.

For vanilla 4/3 and for Panasonic LX3 I use the big Olympus FL-50 but never in the hot-shoe. It is always used on a side bar with the flash extender cable (Panasonic, Olympus or Canon flash extender cables all work). For a tiny flash (no bounce) I use the old Nikon SB-30 in self-auto mode.

For reliable bounce the bigger 4xAA battery flashes are preferred, better output and faster recycle.

There's my list of flashes and how they work with the LX3 (tested by forum members), the flash logic is the same on Panasonic and Olympus cameras, be it 4/3, M4/3 or compacts. http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~parsog/panasonic/11-flash.html#flashlist

Regards........... Guy

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charles1976 Junior Member • Posts: 40
flash

i had the sunpak rd2000 and used it with my LX3.
it had to be manually adjusted.

my Pen 1 came with FL14, but i sold it off and bought Nissin Di466 for the same price.

Full TTL with Olympus Micro 4/3rds.

it bounces

only problem is, (as with Sunpak's RD2000) u can't swivel to the side but i can live with that hehe.

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patricmoreira New Member • Posts: 23
Re: flash

I heard the nissin di466 has an AF assist lamp, is it true? Would be good news...

Gregm61 Forum Pro • Posts: 15,333
Re: Need small bounce flash for 4/3

George Lechter wrote:

FL20 will not bounce

If you get an off-camera cord and point the flash up, it will!

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Gregm61 Forum Pro • Posts: 15,333
Re: something exactly like this....

tyroiii wrote:

Has anyone tried the Vivitar 183?

Three people have written short reviews at B&H..

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/639816-REG/Vivitar_DF183O_DF183_OLY_DF_183_AF_For.html#reviews

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Tim in upstate NY Veteran Member • Posts: 7,120
Nissin Di466 FT

charles1976 wrote:

i had the sunpak rd2000 and used it with my LX3.
it had to be manually adjusted.

my Pen 1 came with FL14, but i sold it off and bought Nissin Di466 for the same price.

Full TTL with Olympus Micro 4/3rds.

it bounces

only problem is, (as with Sunpak's RD2000) u can't swivel to the side but i can live with that hehe.

. . . I have been looking for this unit but not having much luck here in the US except for the $159 white one at Adorama. Finally checked Ebay and a Hong Kong seller named fujisunrise has the black ones for $122 USD with free shipping to the states and mine is on the way now.

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jw68 Forum Member • Posts: 75
Re: Need small bounce flash for 4/3

I think Olympus and Panasonic is missing out on a big opportunity by not having a small bounce flash similar to the Nikon SB400 or the Canon 270EX. Many are looking for this compact flash but they don't seem to be listening.

peppermonkey Veteran Member • Posts: 4,768
Re: Need small bounce flash for 4/3

I totally agree. They don't even need to create a very powerful flash, as long as it can bounce in a normal sized room, keep it relatively cheap priced and small, people would buy it.

jw68 wrote:

I think Olympus and Panasonic is missing out on a big opportunity by not having a small bounce flash similar to the Nikon SB400 or the Canon 270EX. Many are looking for this compact flash but they don't seem to be listening.

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Re: Need small bounce flash for 4/3

Your post prompted me to get out my OM T32 flash and try it on my EPL-1. It's a bigger flash than I recalled but there are some plus points. It works very well in manual mode and I had it synching up to 1/350th second (after that you lose the bottom of the frame). The recycle time was pretty fast as well. So although it's not the smallest it's a great cheap option and you can bounce with it as well. It looks kind of cool on a Pen as well.
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Re: flash

http://www.four-thirds.cn/forum/thread-157203-1-1.html

patricmoreira wrote:

I heard the nissin di466 has an AF assist lamp, is it true? Would be good news...

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