1080p .mov playback skips in Quicktime

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Matt Long Forum Member • Posts: 88
1080p .mov playback skips in Quicktime

Hi all,

I'm sure this question has been asked, but I wanted to know what everyone is using to play back their 1080p .mov files they create with the 5dII? I'm currently using Quicktime, but it skips during playback. Is there anything out that can play this video back smoothly other than dropping it on DVD?

Thanks.

Matt

PawelWoj Senior Member • Posts: 1,040
Re: 1080p .mov playback skips in Quicktime

Its possible your pc is not powerful enough to playback the movies at 1080p. Need to know a little more about your specs, operating system etc.

Matt Long wrote:

Hi all,

I'm sure this question has been asked, but I wanted to know what everyone is using to play back their 1080p .mov files they create with the 5dII? I'm currently using Quicktime, but it skips during playback. Is there anything out that can play this video back smoothly other than dropping it on DVD?

Thanks.

Matt

Matt Long OP Forum Member • Posts: 88
Re: 1080p .mov playback skips in Quicktime

PawelWoj wrote:

Its possible your pc is not powerful enough to playback the movies at 1080p. Need to know a little more about your specs, operating system etc.

System Information
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Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs)
Memory: 4gig RAM
(2) TB Hard Drives

Matt

beeroclock Forum Member • Posts: 89
Re: 1080p .mov playback skips in Quicktime

Download VLC (its free) plays native H.264 files better than Quicktime usually.

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html

good luck

cheers philip

hotdog321
hotdog321 Forum Pro • Posts: 16,409
Power is not the issue

I've got a new Win 7, 64 bit machine, i7-860 processor, 16 gigs of ram (yes, 16) and an ATI 5850 video card with 1 gig of ram and those damn 5DII files are a jittery mess in Quicktime. I have to convert them or use another program.

I hate Quicktime and 5DII video files, but love the results.

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bronxbombers Forum Pro • Posts: 18,226
never use QT on a PC to play back DSLR videos!

it's dog slow!
worst of the worst slow!

if you have a card with h.264 support (most even semi-recent cards) you don't even need much CPU power at all to play it back if you use a HW support using player

if you have an old video card but fastish CPU there are still non-QT programs that might make it play smoothly

Matt Long wrote:

Hi all,

I'm sure this question has been asked, but I wanted to know what everyone is using to play back their 1080p .mov files they create with the 5dII? I'm currently using Quicktime, but it skips during playback. Is there anything out that can play this video back smoothly other than dropping it on DVD?

Thanks.

Matt

bronxbombers Forum Pro • Posts: 18,226
Re: Power is not the issue

hotdog321 wrote:

I've got a new Win 7, 64 bit machine, i7-860 processor, 16 gigs of ram (yes, 16) and an ATI 5850 video card with 1 gig of ram and those damn 5DII files are a jittery mess in Quicktime. I have to convert them or use another program.

I hate Quicktime and 5DII video files, but love the results.

exactly

use powerdvd to play them on that machine and they will be silky smooth and the cpu might hit 3%

or use one the quicktime alternatives and it CPU might only hit 20-30% on that monster machine and play 100% smoothly

if you simply strip the .mov wrapper and wrap as .mp4 even premiere pro cs4 can play they 100% smoothly on an average CPU

but use quicktime and....

bronxbombers Forum Pro • Posts: 18,226
Re: 1080p .mov playback skips in Quicktime

VLC should do it on that system and if not, if you have a decent graphics card, something like powerdvd or something else that uses hardware accleration will do it for sure, no problem at all

Matt Long wrote:

PawelWoj wrote:

Its possible your pc is not powerful enough to playback the movies at 1080p. Need to know a little more about your specs, operating system etc.

System Information
------------------
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs)
Memory: 4gig RAM
(2) TB Hard Drives

Matt

R Valentino Veteran Member • Posts: 3,269
Another vote for VLC- I have a Mac and QT s^cks for

anything over 720p.

Gene

Andy Blanchard Senior Member • Posts: 1,045
Re: Power is not the issue

bronxbombers wrote:

or use one the quicktime alternatives and it CPU might only hit 20-30% on that monster machine and play 100% smoothly

That's the trick, alright. I don't think Apple's QuickTime on the PC has any kind of support for using the hardware acceleration video available on most graphics cards, or if it does then Apple's implementation sucks.

Personally, I use QuickTime Alternative and don't bother with Apple's official version. That, and the latest versions of the K-Lite Codec Pack (Full and 64bit), are probably all the codecs you'll need to play any video file at all on Windows; no need for DivX, QuickTime, PowerDVD, RealPlayer, or any of the other bloatware...

See here for more info and downloads: http://www.codecguide.com/

Andy

hotdog321
hotdog321 Forum Pro • Posts: 16,409
Re: Power is not the issue

I QuickTime Alternative freeware? I think I'll download it and give it a try.

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Matt Long OP Forum Member • Posts: 88
Re: 1080p .mov playback skips in Quicktime

beeroclock wrote:

Download VLC (its free) plays native H.264 files better than Quicktime usually.

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html

I have VLC, and it didn't do any better. It was worse.

Matt

DonHorne Regular Member • Posts: 174
Re: 1080p .mov playback skips in Quicktime

Matt Long wrote:

beeroclock wrote:

Download VLC (its free) plays native H.264 files better than Quicktime usually.

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html

I have VLC, and it didn't do any better. It was worse.

Matt

That was the case for me with a dual core 2.2 Ghz machine with XP Pro and VLC until I came across a DPR post reproduced below:

PCUNITE said:

-- hide signature --

Download the latest from videolan.org and do the following:

H.264 codecs are pretty CPU intensive and VLC can't use multi-cores to decode it yet.
1. Open Tools/ Preferences
2. Click Show settings = All
3. Go to "Input/Codecs
4. Go to "Other codecs/ FFmpeg" subcategory
5. Set "Skip the loop filter for H.264 decoding" to ALL
6. Restart VLC
---
His exact instructions were slightly wrong in terms of menus. But it is simple:
1) Download the latest VLC. VERY important.
2) Set "Skip the loop filter for H.264 decoding" to ALL

Once I did this I never dropped a frame again.

OR, try Kplayer or Zoomplayer

I'm not sure if the newer VLC version would require this 'fix' but you could keep it in mind if the video skips.
--
aka, Grandpaparazzi

Matt Long OP Forum Member • Posts: 88
Re: 1080p .mov playback skips in Quicktime

thanks DonHorne,

Your fix did the trick! I was using the pre-release version of VLC. I downloaded the latest version, and made the changes you suggested and it worked!

Thanks.

Matt

Ludvig Senior Member • Posts: 1,344
Re: 1080p .mov playback skips in Quicktime

Why don't you just use the Windows Media Player that comes with Windows 7? Even on my 1.33Ghz laptop I can run 720 mov files fine. It struggles a bit with the 1080 mov files, but a 2+ Ghz desktop runs all mov files like a dream.

Ludvig

David Hull
David Hull Veteran Member • Posts: 6,010
Re: 1080p .mov playback skips in Quicktime

Matt Long wrote:

Hi all,

I'm sure this question has been asked, but I wanted to know what everyone is using to play back their 1080p .mov files they create with the 5dII? I'm currently using Quicktime, but it skips during playback. Is there anything out that can play this video back smoothly other than dropping it on DVD?

Make sure your video card is up to snuff. I had the same issue and solved it by getting an nVidia 1GB video card to replace the on-board video that I had with my INTC MB.

Thanks.

Matt

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Jen Yates Senior Member • Posts: 1,413
Re: 1080p .mov playback skips in Quicktime

Ludvig wrote:

Why don't you just use the Windows Media Player that comes with Windows 7?

Maybe because Windows Media Player has always been a bit of a dog? Yes it will play a lot of stuff if you have the codecs but it's not just a nice clean simple player.

If you want a lightweight, efficient player then give either Media Player Classic (Probably the best) or VLC a try.

Jim Campbell Senior Member • Posts: 1,881
Don't see the post you referenced with regard to VLC

DonHorne wrote:

Matt Long wrote:

beeroclock wrote:

Download VLC (its free) plays native H.264 files better than Quicktime usually.

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html

I have VLC, and it didn't do any better. It was worse.

Matt

That was the case for me with a dual core 2.2 Ghz machine with XP Pro and VLC until I came across a DPR post reproduced below:

PCUNITE said:

-- hide signature --

Download the latest from videolan.org and do the following:

H.264 codecs are pretty CPU intensive and VLC can't use multi-cores to decode it yet.
1. Open Tools/ Preferences
2. Click Show settings = All
3. Go to "Input/Codecs
4. Go to "Other codecs/ FFmpeg" subcategory
5. Set "Skip the loop filter for H.264 decoding" to ALL
6. Restart VLC
---
His exact instructions were slightly wrong in terms of menus. But it is simple:
1) Download the latest VLC. VERY important.
2) Set "Skip the loop filter for H.264 decoding" to ALL

Once I did this I never dropped a frame again.

OR, try Kplayer or Zoomplayer

I'm not sure if the newer VLC version would require this 'fix' but you could keep it in mind if the video skips.
--
aka, Grandpaparazzi

Ludvig Senior Member • Posts: 1,344
Re: 1080p .mov playback skips in Quicktime

You don't need any codecs in Windows 7 to run the Canon mov files. After disabeling all download features and disable any Internet connections for the program, I think it runs fine and smooth. It comes with Windows, so at least for me, it's a effortless way to run mov files.

Ludvig

Jen Yates wrote:

Ludvig wrote:

Why don't you just use the Windows Media Player that comes with Windows 7?

Maybe because Windows Media Player has always been a bit of a dog? Yes it will play a lot of stuff if you have the codecs but it's not just a nice clean simple player.

If you want a lightweight, efficient player then give either Media Player Classic (Probably the best) or VLC a try.

Andy Blanchard Senior Member • Posts: 1,045
Re: Power is not the issue

hotdog321 wrote:

I QuickTime Alternative freeware? I think I'll download it and give it a try.

Yep. QT Alternative and all of the K-Lite Codec packs are freeware and are updated frequently to include the latest revisions of each included codec (and there are a LOT of those!). I just update QT Alternative and K-Lite every now and again to get the latest features and bug fixes, don't both with DivX, QuickTime, RealPlayer etc. at all and have yet to find a media file I can't play.

Andy

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