D300S + 85 1.4 = Portraits

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olyflyer
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Re: D300S + 85 1.4 = Portraits

I agree, she is a beautiful model and you have nice gear. I am sorry, but these are not that great portraits. The flash images are too harsh because of the strong, direct flash. You should bounce the flash, preferably from behind you in an angle. It would soften the light a lot and would not create those strong shadows. 3 and 4 seems to have been taken without flash and you seemed to have missed focus. Perhaps you don't have focus priority and did not wait for the focus to lock, perhaps you did the classical "focus recompose" mistake. At that wide aperture the "focus recompose" is not always working. Those two also appear to be overexposed, which may not present a big problem is you shot raw.

Anyway, I would call here and ask here to come once again for a re-shoot session. Just tell here that the images aren't as you expected them to be and that you will take a new series. I am pretty sure she won't mind and I am also pretty sure the second run would be considerably better. You can fix a whole lot through PP but I think re-shooting is the answer.

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Roberto Peradotto
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Thank you Chris,

next time I will find a place with a better background so
I will be able to shoot around f/2.8 - f/4. I will put the
flash out of cam too.
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Thank you olyflyer,

I really appreciate your details comments. I'm here to learn.
I had focus priority, but, yes, you are right, I did the
"focus recompose" mistake. The re-shoot route is the way
that I will go, now that I receive all this feedback here.
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DezM
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Re: D300S + 85 1.4 = Portraits

I agree with the others, the lighting from the flash is harsh. I'd recommend using a diffuser such as the Demb Pro Diffuser (which I own), to soften the light: http://www.dembflashproducts.com/diffuser

Also, when outdoors if you're using a SB-800 or SB-900 Speedlight, use the iTT-BL option @ 1/250sec w/adjusted aperture, to expose the background properly and add fill-flash to the subject.

The model is beautiful, BTW
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beckmn1 Regular Member • Posts: 404
Re: beckmn1,

OldPic wrote:

I really liked the processing that you did in this picture.

I used CNX2 to apply global sharpening and local sharpening in the eyes.

If it is not ask too much, could you tell me what did you do in Photoshop?
(I am giving my first steps in Photoshop)

No problem.

Here's what I did .... took me about 5 minutes.

1. I thought the shot was too bright, so I lowered the brightness in curves by simply pulling the line downwards. (Image=> Adjustments=> Curves) . I dropped it slightly more than I would otherwise, but I had an idea of other adjustments I was wanting to try on the picture. You could also do the same thing with going to Brightness/Contrast.

2. Increased the sharpness using Unsharp Mask. I used setting of 150%, Radius 1.0 pixel, and Threshold of 0. (Filter=> Sharpness=> Unsharp Mask).

The next adjustments I did using Color Efex Pro 3. You can do a free download from the Nik Software site and use it, fully functional, for 15 days. I use their PS plug-in version ... the previews within the Photoshop program seem to work better than in their NX2 version. Plus all their online lessons and classes use the Photoshop version.

3. Going to Color Efex Pro 3 in Photoshop (Filter=> Nik Software=> Color Efex Pro 3). I first used their Dynamic Skin Softening filter. For the color sample I wanted to smooth, I used the eyedropper tool someplace on her face. I don't think I made any adjustments to the other settings for that filter. Click OK and it takes me back to Photoshop.

4. Go back to Color Efex Pro 3. Next, I used the Glamour Glow filter in Color Efex Pro 3. Using the default settings was a little too intense, so I played around with the sliders to get the effect that seemed to look good. Clicked OK.

5. Last time, went back to Color Efex Pro 3. I used Darken/Lighten Center. I placed the center on her nose, and then made adjustments to the sliders until I was happy with it. Clicked OK.

And that was it. I played around with your other outside shots, using pretty much the same filters. I didn't save them. I thought they looked pretty good. Glamour Glow seemed to be an option that you might leave out, depending on your tastes.

Hope that helps.

tundracamper Senior Member • Posts: 1,818
Re: D300S + 85 1.4 = Portraits

I'd get a softbox, like the Morris, for lighting just the face or an umbrella. Besides softening the shadows, they add a very nice catch light to the eyes. Try it and you'll see what we mean.

Roberto Peradotto
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Thank you Dez,

The diffuser looks very nice, I will take a look at it.
Next time I will try your tips for fill flash.
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Thank you for the tip tundracamper! (NT)
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Thank you very much beckmn1! (NT).
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DezM
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Re: Thank you Dez,

Your welcome.

One other thing, adjust the white balance on these if you can. Her white blouse has a blue-ish tint
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thomas2279 Forum Pro • Posts: 10,876
Re: D300S + 85 1.4 = Portraits

Love no 2 especially, ones after that not 2 keen on bit out of Oof.
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azguy
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Re: D300S + 85 1.4 = Portraits

Yes, same comments as the others:
1. Cut flash output

2. Reduce exposure. See the blown out white areas of her clothing on the outside shots?
3. Do some retouch on the skin
4. Shoot at f2 to f2.8 for decent bokeh and acceptable DOF
5. Nice model.
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DominicNguyen Contributing Member • Posts: 684
Re: D300S + 85 1.4 = Portraits

I find this lens best taken at f/1.6 or stopped down a tad more. For outdoors, try taking without flash, spot meter +0.3 on the face for pale complexion and see if you like the result. It's ok to bump up the ISO a little if you need more light.

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