E-P2 -- initial impressions from infrequent poster

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greencastle1 Junior Member • Posts: 34
E-P2 -- initial impressions from infrequent poster

Hi,

I've been an e510 user for a while (and 330 and E-1 user before that) and just decided to buy in to the E-P2 sight unseen.

Initial impressions, mostly quite subjective -- your millage may vary.

  • EVF -- doesn't look nearly so large on the camera in person as it does in the pictures. Think I've heard others comment on this but I was surprised nevertheless. Looks nice on the camera, not too obtrusive.

  • EVF & LCD in use -- I'm probably initially disappointed in the EVF and impressed by the LCD in roughly similar measures. Thought for sure I'd love the EVF but... well, so far, I'm not sure. I use old manual focus lenses quite a bit and thought the EVF was going to be a must but my first day's use suggests the LCD would have been more doable than I thought (e.g., on the much less expensive E-P1) while the EVF isn't the wonder I hoped it was going to be. It'll take some practice to get good at getting focus correct with the EVF without magnification (when using large apertures on legacy lenses). Don't get me wrong the EVF is good but I guess I'd say don't expect miracles, be ready to have to look close, to work at manual focus if that's your thing and for it to be readily apparent that you're looking at pixels.

  • Pana 20 1.7 -- bought it and as with everyone else -- love it so far. Going to be a favorite. With this lens the camera is a hands-down winner over my LX3 for compact & high quality. Would really love an autofocus 40 1.4!

  • Menus and ease of use -- odder than I was expecting given my relatively long experience with Olympus DSLRs. Lots of new bells and whistles and, well, they're clogging up my experience and getting in the way. I want face detection sometimes but not generally, but it seems buried and keeping it on brings annoying squares up into the frame constantly. Haven't yet learned a quick way to consistently get in to change the manual focal length for IBIS so that's much more of a hassle so far than on the 510.

  • Ergonomics -- will take some getting used to. I like the relatively small size. But the camera isn't tiny, it's still got some heft to it so extended play today left my hand feeling surprisingly cramped. Will love the compact size for lots of occasions but will probably miss (and go back to) the DSLR format for really heavy use days.

  • Battery life -- with about 10 very short movies and a bunch of reviewing on the LCD I hit a low battery warning at around 250 shots today. Don't know if that will be typical but have a spare ready regardless.

  • Image quality -- excellent. A real step up from my LX3 and certainly at least some high ISO improvement over the e510. Don't have anything systematic or technical to say here except that it's certainly everything I expected it to be, no disappointment where it counts.

Best,

r

Amin Sabet
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Re: E-P2 -- initial impressions from infrequent poster

I enjoyed reading your comments. Very interesting! The LCD on the E-P1 is certainly much better than one would think based on reviews and forum posts. At least, that was my reaction when first I handled one.

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laszlokovacs New Member • Posts: 16
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Be sure to check out Eamon Hickey's review of the E-P1 at the onlinephotographer.com. He describes a control set up for the E-P1 that really extends the usability of the camera. Within limits I really like the E-P1 and find it's shortcomings easy to live with.

Brian Mosley Forum Pro • Posts: 20,714
Congratulations, and thanks...

I have the custom reset slot 1 programmed with my favourite 'starting set' and can return to this with about 4 button presses... It's a good idea to use this as you're getting familiar with the camera to save lots of time.

Please post some images as you progress, and give yourself plenty of time to learn this classic camera.

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harold1968
harold1968 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,687
Re: E-P2 -- initial impressions from infrequent poster

Agree. Also the autofocus is better then the reviews would have u believe.

laszlokovacs wrote:

Be sure to check out Eamon Hickey's review of the E-P1 at the onlinephotographer.com. He describes a control set up for the E-P1 that really extends the usability of the camera. Within limits I really like the E-P1 and find it's shortcomings easy to live with.

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Brian Mosley Forum Pro • Posts: 20,714
Some more tips on E-P1 setup here :

From early adopters worldwide... please add your own if you have them!

http://www.ukphotosafari.org/e-p1-diary-index/

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Bob Tullis
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Re: E-P2 -- initial impressions from infrequent poster

One thing I found interesting was the Super Menu. I forget who mentioned it recently, but last night I went back to the beginning of the manual that speaks of the 3 ways to access menu options.

I raise this in relation to the mention of toggling Face Detection.

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Brian Mosley Forum Pro • Posts: 20,714
Yes Bob, good point...

As a pretty serious Oly DSLR user, I neglected to RTFM in the early days... and missed the extra menus and how to access them.

After months of daily use, I can get to everything I need now - but I'm sure there are one or two gems left undiscovered

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harold1968
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Re: E-P2 -- initial impressions from infrequent poster

i appreciate this view, and it justifies further my purchase of the E-P1

one big question for me, is the focus speed on the E-P2 improved over the E-P1 (you might not know this if you haven't had the E-P1). just bearing in mind the E-P1 is much better then the reviewers let you believe

rgds

greencastle1 wrote:

Hi,

I've been an e510 user for a while (and 330 and E-1 user before that) and just decided to buy in to the E-P2 sight unseen.

Initial impressions, mostly quite subjective -- your millage may vary.

  • EVF -- doesn't look nearly so large on the camera in person as it does in the pictures. Think I've heard others comment on this but I was surprised nevertheless. Looks nice on the camera, not too obtrusive.

  • EVF & LCD in use -- I'm probably initially disappointed in the EVF and impressed by the LCD in roughly similar measures. Thought for sure I'd love the EVF but... well, so far, I'm not sure. I use old manual focus lenses quite a bit and thought the EVF was going to be a must but my first day's use suggests the LCD would have been more doable than I thought (e.g., on the much less expensive E-P1) while the EVF isn't the wonder I hoped it was going to be. It'll take some practice to get good at getting focus correct with the EVF without magnification (when using large apertures on legacy lenses). Don't get me wrong the EVF is good but I guess I'd say don't expect miracles, be ready to have to look close, to work at manual focus if that's your thing and for it to be readily apparent that you're looking at pixels.

  • Pana 20 1.7 -- bought it and as with everyone else -- love it so far. Going to be a favorite. With this lens the camera is a hands-down winner over my LX3 for compact & high quality. Would really love an autofocus 40 1.4!

  • Menus and ease of use -- odder than I was expecting given my relatively long experience with Olympus DSLRs. Lots of new bells and whistles and, well, they're clogging up my experience and getting in the way. I want face detection sometimes but not generally, but it seems buried and keeping it on brings annoying squares up into the frame constantly. Haven't yet learned a quick way to consistently get in to change the manual focal length for IBIS so that's much more of a hassle so far than on the 510.

  • Ergonomics -- will take some getting used to. I like the relatively small size. But the camera isn't tiny, it's still got some heft to it so extended play today left my hand feeling surprisingly cramped. Will love the compact size for lots of occasions but will probably miss (and go back to) the DSLR format for really heavy use days.

  • Battery life -- with about 10 very short movies and a bunch of reviewing on the LCD I hit a low battery warning at around 250 shots today. Don't know if that will be typical but have a spare ready regardless.

  • Image quality -- excellent. A real step up from my LX3 and certainly at least some high ISO improvement over the e510. Don't have anything systematic or technical to say here except that it's certainly everything I expected it to be, no disappointment where it counts.

Best,

r

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OP greencastle1 Junior Member • Posts: 34
Re: Congratulations, and thanks...

Thanks for the advice adn the link -- I certainly have a lot to learn with the camera. Am enjoying it but it will take some setting up (as you're helping me to do1).

r

OP greencastle1 Junior Member • Posts: 34
Re: E-P2 -- initial impressions from infrequent poster

Thanks, I will check that out! Enjoying the camera, but much to learn!

r

OP greencastle1 Junior Member • Posts: 34
Re: E-P2 -- initial impressions from infrequent poster

Hi,

Yes, can't really say about how the AF compares with the E-p1, don't have it. The E-p2's is neither remarkably fast nor remarkably slow in my own (brief) experience. I have a little one year old daughter who crawls quickly and rocks wildly and it's already missed her more than a couple times. But then again, it gets her more often than not (by far) so I'm perfectly happy. We'll see how it does as she grows and gets more and more mobile (and quick!).

r

OP greencastle1 Junior Member • Posts: 34
Re: E-P2 -- initial impressions from infrequent poster

Thanks for the tip -- I've got the manual right by the chair, I'll look at the section you mention.

I realize my impressions were "initial" ones, more experience will surely smooth much of this out. The surprise was just how many bells and whistles the new camera has -- enough to make even an old Oly hand find things a bit un-intuitive.

But again, that was just my first day experience, I'm sure it'll get smoother.

r

Bob Tullis
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Re: E-P2 -- initial impressions from infrequent poster

greencastle1 wrote:

Thanks for the tip -- I've got the manual right by the chair, I'll look at the section you mention.

I realize my impressions were "initial" ones, more experience will surely smooth much of this out. The surprise was just how many bells and whistles the new camera has -- enough to make even an old Oly hand find things a bit un-intuitive.

Indeed. Overwhelming, but that's because it's so customizable. It'll all fall into place in due time (am I telling you, or myself?).

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