canon 50 1.4 or something else for that price for portraits?

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lukx
lukx Regular Member • Posts: 226
canon 50 1.4 or something else for that price for portraits?

Does cannon has something better than 50 1.4 in similar price for portraits?

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John A Clark Senior Member • Posts: 1,511
You might want longer for portraits?

Portrait are usually done with 80 - 135 mm to make them appear 'flatter' - with a 50, you get closer (especially head-shots) resulting in 'larger' noses ...
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Mark van Oostveen Regular Member • Posts: 365
Re: You might want longer for portraits?

85mm 1.8

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Andreas Helke Senior Member • Posts: 1,204
Re: canon 50 1.4 or something else for that price for portraits?

On a crop camera 50mm is just about long enough to be a good portrait length. On a full frame camera its a bit wide but still somewhat usable. The 85 f1.8 has better image quality wide open much better build quality and probably a better autofocus. So its a much better choice as a portrait lens for about the same price.

verybiglebowski
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Re: canon 50 1.4 or something else for that price for portraits?

Maybe also EF-S 6O 2,8 Macro can be taken into consideration if 85 is too long for you. But if not, I agree that EF 85 1,8 is just outstanding piece of glass for portraiture for its price.

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lukx
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Re: canon 50 1.4 or something else for that price for portraits?

Thank you all. So 85 for Christmas
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Re: canon 50 1.4 or something else for that price for portraits?

Just one more question, is this 85 focusing fast enough for sports (squash)?
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Mark van Oostveen Regular Member • Posts: 365
Re: canon 50 1.4 or something else for that price for portraits?
Andreas Helke Senior Member • Posts: 1,204
Re: canon 50 1.4 or something else for that price for portraits?

lukx wrote:

Just one more question, is this 85 focusing fast enough for sports (squash)?

The 85 f1.8 has the reputation to be one of the fastest focusing Canon lenses.

Trevor Sowers
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Re: canon 50 1.4 or something else for that price for portraits?

You bet.

It doesn't get any faster. I use it for volleyball.

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Joe Photo Lover Veteran Member • Posts: 3,040
Re: canon 50 1.4 or something else for that price for portraits?

Andreas Helke wrote:

On a crop camera 50mm is just about long enough to be a good portrait length. On a full frame camera its a bit wide but still somewhat usable. The 85 f1.8 has better image quality wide open much better build quality and probably a better autofocus. So its a much better choice as a portrait lens for about the same price.

A little more information:

While 50mm on a Canon crop camera will produce a field of view the same as an 80mm lens of a full frame camera there is another factor to consider. The 50mm lens that you mount on your crop camera is still only a 50mm lens so the image that hits the sensor produces a subject size that equals an 80mm lens but the distance perspective is still that of a 50mm lens. Therefore, some may feel that 50mm is too short a lens for a traditional portrait. It could produce large noses, hands, etc.

With a little care, this shouldn't be a problem but the photographer should be aware of the issue. For a portrait 80mm to 100mm is the classic portrait length but these lenses can at times be too long for indoors in a typical apartment setting.

Actually the problem is much greater when using a 17 to 28mm setting on a crop camera than it is at 50mm setting.

Sal Baker Veteran Member • Posts: 9,995
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Are you on a crop camera or FF? I have the 50/1.4 and the 85/1.8. On a crop I rarely used the 85/1.8 because it was too long for indoor use. On FF the 85/1.8 is marvelous, but for contextual portraits (not extreme head/shoulder shots) the 50/1.4 looks good at f/1.8 while the 85/1.8 needs to be above f/2 to look sharp.

They're both good affordable lenses for either format.

Sal

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richj20 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,052
Re: canon 50 1.4 or something else for that price for portraits?

Sal Baker wrote:

the 85/1.8 needs to be above f/2 to look sharp.

I've heard that before, but I find that @f/1.8 looks pretty good:

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Trevor Sowers
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Re: canon 50 1.4 or something else for that price for portraits?

Mine looks sharp at 1.8 as well!

Of course this is relative and some people are just pickier.

I shoot mine wide open with not hesitation (something I won't do with my 50 1.8).

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lukx
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Re: canon 50 1.4 or something else for that price for portraits?

yes I'm on crop (7D) hmm, so now you got me thinking maybe 50 ?

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lukx
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Re: canon 50 1.4 or something else for that price for portraits?

Basically I'm usually standing 5m, (16 feet) from center of the court (squash). So for this case 85 or 50 ?
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Gene L. Veteran Member • Posts: 3,788
Re: canon 50 1.4 or something else for that price for portraits?

lukx wrote:

Basically I'm usually standing 5m, (16 feet) from center of the court (squash). So for this case 85 or 50 ?

At 16-ft., 85mm will make a fine portrait lens. It won't give enough field of view for team shots, but should be about right for isolated shots of individual players.

My 85 f/1.8 does not get much use because it is too long for indoors. The last time it got used was for some baby portraits. I was around 8-ft. away for full-length portraits of a 6-month old. Outdoors where there is more room, the 85mm focal length works well.

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