9-18 vs 7-14,11-22 and 12-60 lens test

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DMATH Regular Member • Posts: 214
9-18 vs 7-14,11-22 and 12-60 lens test

After looking at four different sets of comparisons @100% the quality of the 9-18 is incredible.

Set 1
7-14@9mm@f4 vs 9-18@9mm@f4

Set 2
7-14@9mm@f8 vs 9-18@9mm@f8

Set 3
7-14@11mm@f8 vs 9-18@11mm@f8 vs 11-22@11mm@f8

Set 4
7-14@12mm@f4 vs 9-18@12mm@f4.4 vs 11-22@12mm@f2.9 vs 12-60@12mm@2.8

http://fourthirds-user.com/2008/11/zuiko_digital_918_sample_image_comparisons.php/a

maranatha Senior Member • Posts: 1,123
Re: 9-18 vs 7-14,11-22 and 12-60 lens test

hi seems to be a break in the link ..
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OP DMATH Regular Member • Posts: 214
Re: 9-18 vs 7-14,11-22 and 12-60 lens test

Hmmm. I just clicked on the hyperlink and went right to the page.

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Analysis Paralysis

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OP DMATH Regular Member • Posts: 214
Re: Analysis Paralysis

Paralysis or not, the 9-18 outperforms the other 3 lenses in the 9-12mm focal lenght at all apertures.

pgordash Junior Member • Posts: 43
Re: 9-18 vs 7-14,11-22 and 12-60 lens test

They are broken as any link with an @ in it gets processed as an email. I know Firefox does this for sure.

OP DMATH Regular Member • Posts: 214
Re: 9-18 vs 7-14,11-22 and 12-60 lens test

I justed looked at my original post and see that all of the 'ats' are linked. I did not mean for any of the Sets to have any links. I only wanted to link the the comparison page and let anyone interested to download their own comparisons.

I didn't know that having all of the @ would try to create a link.
My bad.

msusic Senior Member • Posts: 2,576
Re: 9-18 vs 7-14,11-22 and 12-60 lens test

I had no doubt 9-18mm is a really good lens, but if you want 7mm, there's only one choice

OP DMATH Regular Member • Posts: 214
Re: 9-18 vs 7-14,11-22 and 12-60 lens test

Very true.

When I was in filmland, I did try the OM 16mm lens but liked the OM 18 better so I settled on the 18 f3.5 with the 21 f2.0 as a backup.

I have just gone over to digitaland by buying the E-620 and the 9-18 plus both 40-150s.

I now have renewed enthusiasm for photography.

Timskis6 Veteran Member • Posts: 9,565
I do have to wonder

Considering something as simple WB is not even rendered the same between these crops, I wonder how credible the entire test is. WB doesn't affect many attributes being shown in these crops, but it does affect other characteristics such as CA/PF's. Furthermore, if WB isn't processed identically, are the other settings processed the same? Sharpness, contrast?

Additionally, it's also very concerning that either the DR is very different, the exposures are very different, or the post processing of the shadows is very different. In any case, it adds to the case that the user isn't capable of delivering an accurate crop comparison.

What this test does show is that we're looking at 4 incredible pieces of glass.

FWIW, I believe these images are quite old. I remember seeing this exact test some time ago.

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OP DMATH Regular Member • Posts: 214
Re: I do have to wonder

Timskis6 wrote:

What this test does show is that we're looking at 4 incredible pieces of glass.

And they are all made by Olympus. Gotta love it.

pgordash Junior Member • Posts: 43
No biggie

With all the @ links I missed the one at the bottom! Ooops. Nice comparison.

Thanks,
Paul

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Re: Analysis Paralysis

DMATH wrote:

Paralysis or not, the 9-18 outperforms the other 3 lenses in the 9-12mm focal lenght at all apertures.

I'd have to agree as the 11-22 does not go to 9mm nor does the 12-60 so I'd completely expect the 9-18 to outperform those lenses in the 9-11mm focal lengths.
As to outperforming the 7-14, not likely.

I've owned the 9-18 and still have my 11-22. Had I never used the 11-22 I'd have kept the 9-18 as it is an excellent lens and I've recommended it to many. It is not, however, of the same class as the 11-22. My side by side comparisons proved that to me and I don't mind sacrificing the 11° AOV difference.
For extreme WA, I use my 8mm FE and I know how to use it.

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Jan3x5 Senior Member • Posts: 2,525
Re: 9-18 vs 7-14,11-22 and 12-60 lens test

I know all of them as I own or did own each of those lenses. I agree that 9-18 is excellent lens for the money, very well corrected overal. But honestly I am quite surprised with these results, because they do not match my experience. I expected to see (because of partially strong sunlight) what I've found on my shots - basically the more expensive lens the more contrasty, sharper, overal more punchy and "3D" feeling, more impressive results if there is lot of light. It is kind of special effect (I assume it is caused by contrast transfer / microcontrast rendition) and while I didn't found it interesting on 9-18 outputs at all, I did in case of 12-60, even more with 11-22 and the most with 7-14 (also significant in case of 8FE).

Anyway, interesting results, altough I am with Bill that 8FE is the best fisheye, 7-14 the best extreme WA, 9-18 the best slow UWA (and best for square filters), 11-22 the best weatherproofed fast UWA, 12-60 the best wide standard zoom. I found that these lenses doesn't compete one to another in real life.

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Melvinphoto Regular Member • Posts: 413
Re: 9-18 vs 7-14,11-22 and 12-60 lens test

All are excellent lenses, the 11-22 is the better lens compared to the 12-60 & 9-18. Try to include the sun in the frame and you know why. I have sold the 11-22 in favor of the 9-18 and 12-60 which really have a nice zoom range. But the 11-22 was optically outstanding and outperforms 12-60 and 9-18.

Didn't use the 7-14. Since it is a top-pro lens it is probably a piece of art optically... (and expensive)
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martinus2u Contributing Member • Posts: 607
Re: 9-18 vs 7-14,11-22 and 12-60 lens test

DMATH wrote:

After looking at four different sets of comparisons @100% the quality of the 9-18 is incredible.

It always depends which image details you compare. For instance, you seem to miss the border weakness of the 9-18 between 11mm and 14mm. It is there in every set, but it becomes particularly apparent in the open aperture 14mm set. Check out the brickwork on the left hand side at 100% magnification. It is still visible in the f/8 sets.

Thanks for the analysis, btw. To me it clearly proves how superior the 11-22 really is in every aspect but focal length. I whish we'd have had this type of analysis when the 9-18 first came out instead of the hype.

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Martin,

Don't regret the purchase of the 9-18. As I stated above, it's an excellent lens and a lot can be accomplished with it. If I did not already have the 11-22, I'd have kept the 9-18.

Bill Turner

OP DMATH Regular Member • Posts: 214
Re: 9-18 vs 7-14,11-22 and 12-60 lens test

Lots of great input here from experienced UWA/WA users of all 4 lenses.

It appears that all 4 lenses are excellent and, like Jan3x5 says, each lens has its own superiority.

Thanks to all for an informed discussion.

dingenus Senior Member • Posts: 1,977
Re: 9-18 vs 7-14,11-22 and 12-60 lens test

The most interesting question for me is the following: Why have the 9-18 and the 12-60 more edge sharpening. The same points in the 11-22 photo are (much?) cleaner. Is the degree of sharpening set in the lens chip ? And can we conclude that the sharper the optics the lower the edge sharpening? Or do I think wrong?

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Gregm61 Forum Pro • Posts: 15,708
Re: 9-18 vs 7-14,11-22 and 12-60 lens test

dingenus wrote:

The most interesting question for me is the following: Why have the 9-18 and the 12-60 more edge sharpening. The same points in the 11-22 photo are (much?) cleaner. Is the degree of sharpening set in the lens chip ? And can we conclude that the sharper the optics the lower the edge sharpening? Or do I think wrong?

It's probably more a matter of the less ambitous the zoom range, the better the performance can be made. That's why the 11-22 is better over its' entire range than the 12-60. If it were an 11-60 zoom, the story would be different. Also, the better corrected and better made lens will always outperform a lens not as well corrected and/or made, and that's why the 11-22 outperforms the 9-18.

The 11-22 in terms of consistent results throughout its' zoom and aperture range to me is the better lens of these three, and based on the zoom ranges and build quality, that's exactly how I would expect these three to compare.

Whether the 11-22 is the best option for what you want to shoot and based on the other lenses in your outfit is another matter.

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