Any Finns/Suomalaiset around here?

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PhotoKhan Forum Pro • Posts: 11,408
Any Finns/Suomalaiset around here?

We'll probably spend our family summer vacations in Finland, come August next year.

Since it is never too early to start the first planning steps from where everything else will be anchored, I would love too hear from some Finnish fellow users about which places not too miss while up there.

So far I got Helsinki (entry/exit point), Lapland (based in Rovaniemi?), Lakelands (based in Kuopio?) and the Aland Isles as general purpose recommendations.

What other places should not be missed, from a photography stand point?

TIA

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JukkaV Regular Member • Posts: 125
Re: Any Finns/Suomalaiset around here?

Hi

I'm from finland.

It's quite a hard (at least for me) to suggest any photoworthy places.

While you are in Helsinki, I think you should visit Suomenlinna ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomenlinna ).

One of my favourite photo thing is to take one day roadtrip with some friend(s). Just drive with car on rural finland and stop to take photos when ever someone sees anything interesting. For example, if there is old (or even newer) bridge, stop and go see what's under it.

So called jokamiehen oikeudet ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jokamiehen_oikeudet ) is great thing. "Everyone may walk, ski or cycle freely in the countryside where this does not harm the natural environment or the landowner, except in gardens or in the immediate vicinity of people’s homes (yards)."

One more tip. Photographing people in their homes or yards (without permission) is illegal.

Anyway, drop a message if you happen to visit Jyväskylä, Central Finland.

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Hi Jukka!

Thank you for your input!

JukkaV wrote:

Hi

I'm from finland.

It's quite a hard (at least for me) to suggest any photoworthy places.

While you are in Helsinki, I think you should visit Suomenlinna ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomenlinna ).

Dully noted and listed down

One of my favourite photo thing is to take one day roadtrip with some friend(s). Just drive with car on rural finland and stop to take photos when ever someone sees anything interesting. For example, if there is old (or even newer) bridge, stop and go see what's under it.

Excellent pointer!

So called jokamiehen oikeudet ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jokamiehen_oikeudet ) is great thing. "Everyone may walk, ski or cycle freely in the countryside where this does not harm the natural environment or the landowner, except in gardens or in the immediate vicinity of people’s homes (yards)."

Yes, I read about it...a photographer's dream come true and a refreshing variation from the almost paranoid photography restrictions that seem to be the norm these days, in some countries.

One more tip. Photographing people in their homes or yards (without permission) is illegal.

Hyper-fair and what should the norm everywhere.

Anyway, drop a message if you happen to visit Jyväskylä, Central Finland.

I certainly will.... ... Let's see how the initial planning I would be doing come next January/February comes along. Is that near the Kuopio (Lakelands) region?

Two questions:

1. When we visited Norway a few years back, we didn't go North of Stavanger on account of the sheer size of the country and the long driving hours that would be needed to visit the northernmost regions.

As such, we didn't visit the Nordkapp, something I always wanted to do. I now see that it is a short hop from the northern Finnish border to that cape, so I am considering a trip there this time around

However, If we take base in Rovaniemi to visit Lapland, it will, again, be a long drive back and forth to the Nordkapp.

Is there another interesting spot north of Rovaniemi that we could use as a mid stopping point on a drive to and back from Norway?

2. On another planing scenario I am considering visiting St. Petersburg in Russia, on a 2/3 day hop from Helsinki.

To this intent, I've come across this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2001/apr/17/userstraveladvice1

Any pitfalls here? Is it complicated to cross the border between Finland and Russia for EC citizens (assuming, of course, we present ourselves with the required visa)?

TIA and wishing you all the best!

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MPAR New Member • Posts: 18
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Hi,

whatever you do, don't miss the archipelago(s). Between the mainland Finland (Turku) and Åland, it's stunningly beautiful, but there are places well worth seeing along the coastline all the way to Helsinki and beyond, too.

Yet another kind of archipelago is in the lake area - especially Saimaa - where lakes, islands and land intertwine into an endless labyrinth. Rent a boat or a canoe and explore.

There are nice towns and cities, too. Helsinki is a welcoming and friendly place in the summer, but I wouldn't miss Porvoo, Rauma, Turku, Tampere and Kuopio, either.

Welcome - and have a nice trip!

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A collection of Finns/Suomalaiset

Here is a list of photographers from Finland who use PBase: http://www.pbase.com/world/finland . On that page you can also connect to a large collection of photos from the country.

If side trips are an option, it might be helpful to know that Estonia is a nearby vacation destination for the people of Suomi. Lots of old growth forests there, for example.

Bon voyage!

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Thanks MPAR!

MPAR wrote:

whatever you do, don't miss the archipelago(s). Between the mainland Finland (Turku) and Åland, it's stunningly beautiful, but there are places well worth seeing along the coastline all the way to Helsinki and beyond, too.

I quickly became aware of that...Exactly one of my options: Boarding the Tallink-Silja ferry between Turku and Mariehamm for a 2/3 day round trip to Åland.

In this case we would bring the car along, of course but is there another way to make the crossing, one that let's us enjoy the scenery in a more intimate way than the ferry?

Yet another kind of archipelago is in the lake area - especially Saimaa - where lakes, islands and land intertwine into an endless labyrinth. Rent a boat or a canoe and explore.

Will definitely check that out.

There are nice towns and cities, too. Helsinki is a welcoming and friendly place in the summer, but I wouldn't miss Porvoo, Rauma, Turku, Tampere and Kuopio, either.

Excellent pointers. Dully noted.

Welcome - and have a nice trip!

Thank you!

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Thanks Soenda!

Soenda wrote:

Here is a list of photographers from Finland who use PBase: http://www.pbase.com/world/finland . On that page you can also connect to a large collection of photos from the country.

First place I went to (I love PBase).

Later, when starting the final draft for the trip, I intend to make a "standard message" and contact some of them also asking for some pointers.

Actually, they will be welcomed until the very end, right before departing.

I will never forget that one of the best tips I got before visiting NYC was posted here, just some days before the departure: Exchange the rather expectable option of using the tourist crowded Circle Line boats for a far more different and rewarding experience of a sunset cruise aboard a schooner.

If side trips are an option, it might be helpful to know that Estonia is a nearby vacation destination for the people of Suomi. Lots of old growth forests there, for example.

Yes, already under consideration too...The ferry crossover to Tallinn seems like a logical option, although the jury is still out about extending the trip to the rest of Estonia or other Baltic states. (Finland seems to be big enough on its own...)

Bon voyage!

Thanks!

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TapioH Regular Member • Posts: 206
Re: Any Finns/Suomalaiset around here?

PhotoKhan wrote:

Is there another interesting spot north of Rovaniemi that we could use as a mid stopping point on a drive to and back from Norway?

If you like nature, just try the skiing resorts like Pyhä-Luosto or Saariselkä.
http://www.laplandluosto.fi/winter/summeractivities/

Another nice town in the lake district is Savonlinna. And you might want to explore the rivers of Kuusamo on your way up north.

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Tage Bjorklund Contributing Member • Posts: 887
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you already got some good responses,

one thing that you could consider is to fly in to Stockholm, spend a day or two there and take the Silja Line ferry from Stockholm to Helsinki. if money is not a problem I recommend that you get one of the luxury cabins where you have your own balcony. the archipelago outside Stockholm is really worth the trip. I have some pictures on Pbase
http://www.pbase.com/poppy/europe

here is an interior from the ship

and the cabin

otherwise, there is no lack of natural beauty in Finland if you are into landscape photography. there is also a fair amount of wildlife. you should see moose almost anywhere in the country, and also reindeer if you go to the Lapland area

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Topi Senior Member • Posts: 1,488
Re: Thanks MPAR!

PhotoKhan wrote:

In this case we would bring the car along, of course but is there another way to make the crossing, one that let's us enjoy the scenery in a more intimate way than the ferry?

Hi,

Yes, there is a more intimate way. You can, in fact, drive to Åland with your car, hopping from island to island on smaller ferries. See, e.g. http://www.alandstrafiken.ax/fin/index.htm

Another, somewhat shorter, trip would be the Saariston rengastie (The Archipelago ring road) in the Turku archipelago: http://www.saaristonrengastie.fi/index.php?sivu=1 (for some reason this site does not seem to be in English, only Finnish and German). The site http://www.saaristo.org/ also seems to have English among the languages.

Other than that my general advice would be to avoid the main roads, if you are driving yourself and have the time. The main roads run straightish and you'll just mostly see thick, bushy forest by the roadside. Taking roads with three digits in the numbers you have much better chance of catching some scenery than on single-digit roads.

Cheers,

-Topi Kuusinen, Finland

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Thanks Tapio...

...much appreciated and dully noted.

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Tuhatta kiitos Topi!

Topi wrote:

Yes, there is a more intimate way. You can, in fact, drive to Åland with your car, hopping from island to island on smaller ferries. See, e.g. http://www.alandstrafiken.ax/fin/index.htm

Another, somewhat shorter, trip would be the Saariston rengastie (The Archipelago ring road) in the Turku archipelago: http://www.saaristonrengastie.fi/index.php?sivu=1 (for some reason this site does not seem to be in English, only Finnish and German). The site http://www.saaristo.org/ also seems to have English among the languages.

Other than that my general advice would be to avoid the main roads, if you are driving yourself and have the time. The main roads run straightish and you'll just mostly see thick, bushy forest by the roadside. Taking roads with three digits in the numbers you have much better chance of catching some scenery than on single-digit roads.

Can't thank you enough. This is exactly the kind of pointers I was looking for!

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Thanks Tage!

Tage Bjorklund wrote:

you already got some good responses,

one thing that you could consider is to fly in to Stockholm, spend a day or two there and take the Silja Line ferry from Stockholm to Helsinki. if money is not a problem I recommend that you get one of the luxury cabins where you have your own balcony. the archipelago outside Stockholm is really worth the trip. I have some pictures on Pbase

otherwise, there is no lack of natural beauty in Finland if you are into landscape photography. there is also a fair amount of wildlife. you should see moose almost anywhere in the country, and also reindeer if you go to the Lapland area

I will fly directly to Helsinki as it is a Tap-Air Portugal route and I will take advantage from the staff travel benefits. It also flies to Stockholm but I rather stick to Finland in as much as possible and already am considering three time consuming diversions:

1. Estonia, from Helsinki, by ferry taking the car along.
2. St. Petersburg.
3. A stretch from Lapland up to the Nordkapp in Norway.

From the suggestions here, I am starting to have a pretty clear idea as to what to cover in a 2 week trip.

The DPR community is amazing...

Thanks once again for your suggestions

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Tage Bjorklund Contributing Member • Posts: 887
Re: Thanks Tage!

if you are going to drive all the way to Nordkap perhaps you should consider taking the train from Helsinki to Rovaniemi. the trains are excellent, and you can get a sleeping cabin. some trains even allow you to bring the car, at least I heard someone telling about that.

Tage

PhotoKhan wrote:

Tage Bjorklund wrote:

you already got some good responses,

one thing that you could consider is to fly in to Stockholm, spend a day or two there and take the Silja Line ferry from Stockholm to Helsinki. if money is not a problem I recommend that you get one of the luxury cabins where you have your own balcony. the archipelago outside Stockholm is really worth the trip. I have some pictures on Pbase

otherwise, there is no lack of natural beauty in Finland if you are into landscape photography. there is also a fair amount of wildlife. you should see moose almost anywhere in the country, and also reindeer if you go to the Lapland area

I will fly directly to Helsinki as it is a Tap-Air Portugal route and I will take advantage from the staff travel benefits. It also flies to Stockholm but I rather stick to Finland in as much as possible and already am considering three time consuming diversions:

1. Estonia, from Helsinki, by ferry taking the car along.
2. St. Petersburg.
3. A stretch from Lapland up to the Nordkapp in Norway.

From the suggestions here, I am starting to have a pretty clear idea as to what to cover in a 2 week trip.

The DPR community is amazing...

Thanks once again for your suggestions

PK

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PhotoKhan wrote:

We'll probably spend our family summer vacations in Finland, come August next year.

I looked at you profile, and you are from Portugal. August is a nice time for summer vacations, but July is often better. This depends a whole lot on the year. It may be sunny or it may be raining. Typically Finns have vacation in July, early August.

While summer is nice for vacations, I personally think it's a bit boring for photography as you miss seasonal weather, which is very nice in photographs. My favorite times would be mid-winter (February) and somewhere north or north-east, or spring around May, or falling of the leaves off trees that would start early September in Lapland.

Since it is never too early to start the first planning steps from where everything else will be anchored, I would love too hear from some Finnish fellow users about which places not too miss while up there.

So far I got Helsinki (entry/exit point), Lapland (based in Rovaniemi?), Lakelands (based in Kuopio?) and the Aland Isles as general purpose recommendations.

What other places should not be missed, from a photography stand point?

I would skip Rovaniemi, it's a tourist place, mostly just Santa Claus lives there. And Kuopio I would miss too. Take a look at this map, in case you are interested in national parks.

http://www.luontoon.fi/page.asp?Section=4984

Instead of Kuopio I would suggest Koli. If so, book a hotel there, not Joensuu. It's a forest and hills. If you want lakes, I suggest Savonlinna, and there's a good opera too.

I would really recommend Lapland in early September, for one, in summer there's quite a lot of mosquitoes in the north. And you will miss the colorful leaves on the trees if you don't.

Here's also something you might be interested in, UNESCO world heritage sites:
http://www.nba.fi/en/whf

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Thank you so much Heechee...!

...Much appreciated, your input

Heechee wrote:

PhotoKhan wrote:

We'll probably spend our family summer vacations in Finland, come August next year.

I looked at you profile, and you are from Portugal. August is a nice time for summer vacations, but July is often better. This depends a whole lot on the year. It may be sunny or it may be raining. Typically Finns have vacation in July, early August.

While summer is nice for vacations, I personally think it's a bit boring for photography as you miss seasonal weather, which is very nice in photographs. My favorite times would be mid-winter (February) and somewhere north or north-east, or spring around May, or falling of the leaves off trees that would start early September in Lapland.

Unfortunately, I don't have full liberty to plan my vacations. It will have to be August, this year.

Since it is never too early to start the first planning steps from where everything else will be anchored, I would love too hear from some Finnish fellow users about which places not too miss while up there.

So far I got Helsinki (entry/exit point), Lapland (based in Rovaniemi?), Lakelands (based in Kuopio?) and the Aland Isles as general purpose recommendations.

What other places should not be missed, from a photography stand point?

I would skip Rovaniemi, it's a tourist place, mostly just Santa Claus lives there. And Kuopio I would miss too. Take a look at this map, in case you are interested in national parks.

http://www.luontoon.fi/page.asp?Section=4984

Yes, we love parks and was thinking about selecting some from the vast number in your country.

Instead of Kuopio I would suggest Koli. If so, book a hotel there, not Joensuu. It's a forest and hills. If you want lakes, I suggest Savonlinna, and there's a good opera too.

Dully noted!

I would really recommend Lapland in early September, for one, in summer there's quite a lot of mosquitoes in the north. And you will miss the colorful leaves on the trees if you don't.

Well, sorry to hear this on 2 counts: 1st. I would love to see those late summer/early fall colors and, 2nd, I hate mosquitoes (...or should I say, they hate me...)

Here's also something you might be interested in, UNESCO world heritage sites:
http://www.nba.fi/en/whf

Thanks, once more.

All the best!

PK

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Jouko Senior Member • Posts: 1,759
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Hello!

Welcome to Finland! I looked at your photos, and you seem to be interested both in nature and architecture, and if I guess right you are working for some airline company? So you can by cheap fly tickets?

But if you want to drive, and have enough time... From Helsinki to Turku, take enough time in both ends and on the way: two major cities, capital and the old capital - lots to see. Take the archipelago tour & Åland, then follow the west coast up to north, use enough time, stop in various villages and towns... Don't miss Oulu or Tornio/Haaparanta (Haparanda in Swedish)... Follow the road to north by the Swedish border and Tornionjoki, and visit Nordkap. Then back south ... Inari / Ivalo / Saariselkä ... Sodankylä... Rovaniemi. Then to east... Kemijärvi - Kuusamo (Kiutaköngas) - Kajaani... Then to the lake district: Savonlinna - Kuopio - Lappeenranta... Lots to drive, takes a lot of time. If you are in a hurry (week - two) take just a smaller part.

Also, if you have kids... some good amusement parks: Linnanmäki (Helsinki), Särkänniemi (Tampere) and Powerpark (Alahärmä). For the nature lovers the national parks are a must and free, usually there are information centers in every park, and easy paths around those for walks. My favorities from those are Seitseminen National park and Koli, both offering beautiful landscapes and old forests.

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Thanks Jouko...!

...This is quickly becoming "The" reference for an amazing Finnish photo trip, thanks to inputs from you guys...Much, much appreciated.

Jouko wrote:

Hello!

Welcome to Finland! I looked at your photos, and you seem to be interested both in nature and architecture, and if I guess right you are working for some airline company? So you can by cheap fly tickets?

But if you want to drive, and have enough time... From Helsinki to Turku, take enough time in both ends and on the way: two major cities, capital and the old capital - lots to see. Take the archipelago tour & Åland, then follow the west coast up to north, use enough time, stop in various villages and towns... Don't miss Oulu or Tornio/Haaparanta (Haparanda in Swedish)... Follow the road to north by the Swedish border and Tornionjoki, and visit Nordkap. Then back south ... Inari / Ivalo / Saariselkä ... Sodankylä... Rovaniemi. Then to east... Kemijärvi - Kuusamo (Kiutaköngas) - Kajaani... Then to the lake district: Savonlinna - Kuopio - Lappeenranta... Lots to drive, takes a lot of time. If you are in a hurry (week - two) take just a smaller part.

Also, if you have kids... some good amusement parks: Linnanmäki (Helsinki), Särkänniemi (Tampere) and Powerpark (Alahärmä). For the nature lovers the national parks are a must and free, usually there are information centers in every park, and easy paths around those for walks. My favorities from those are Seitseminen National park and Koli, both offering beautiful landscapes and old forests.

If we do go to Finland it will be a 2-week trip, in and out by plane with a rented car to roam around.

As, such, your input is extremely useful.

Again, many thanks!

PK
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Kaj E Veteran Member • Posts: 9,694
Re: Any Finns/Suomalaiset around here?

I would second Heechee's suggestion of Koli. The Koli National Park has been a favorite place for Finnish landscape painters throughout time. A high ridge runs through it with beautiful views.

Outside Finland but reasonably close St. Petersburg is great as you had found out. The old town of Tallinn, Estonia is also a good target and can be visited on a day trip by boat from Helsinki. Some of my Tallinn shots: http://www.pbase.com/kaj_e/tallinn_estonia

Some Helsinki shots of mine in this and its sub-galleries:
http://www.pbase.com/kaj_e/helsinki_finland

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JukkaV wrote:

While you are in Helsinki, I think you should visit Suomenlinna ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomenlinna ).

And while in Helsinki, don't miss Seurasaari Open-Air Museum.

http://www.hel.fi/wps/portal/Liikuntavirasto_en/Artikkeli?WCM_GLOBAL_CONTEXT=/liv/en/Recreation/In+Helsinki/Seurasaari
http://www.nba.fi/en/seurasaari_openairmuseum

More about Helsinki http://www.visithelsinki.fi

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