Milk bath ?

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LeNormand Forum Member • Posts: 67
Milk bath ?

My friend asked me to shoot her in a milk bath.
We'll use a hotel room with a great, white bathroom.

Problem is, I don't picture myself carrying 50 boxes of milk through the hotel lobby
Is there any easier way to obtain the whitness of milk in a bathtub ?

Thanks for any ideas !

Shawry Regular Member • Posts: 181
Re: Milk bath ?

Yes - it doesnt need to be all milk - you may get away with 1 litre milk to 3 maybe 4 litres of water.
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OP LeNormand Forum Member • Posts: 67
Re: Milk bath ?

Yes, I need to test to find the lowest concentration still giving a deep white color.

Powder milk will also be much easier to carry !

Thanks

dad_of_four Veteran Member • Posts: 8,515
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LeNormand wrote:

Problem is, I don't picture myself carrying 50 boxes of milk through the hotel lobby

Besides the other advice... Ask the bell-hop to bring the stuff up to the room.
I'm sure he/she is used to seeing some freaky-things.
He might even want to be in a couple of the shots.
(Or you could hire a midget - lol)

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UKphotographers Veteran Member • Posts: 4,337
Re: Milk bath ?

dad_of_four wrote:

(Or you could hire a midget - lol)

Milk in the bath is a good idea. I'm a bit unsure when it comes to putting a midget in there as well...

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D W Senior Member • Posts: 1,969
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You just answered you own question. Powder milk will work. Bring a length of rubber hose to produce "bubbles".

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marin Regular Member • Posts: 369
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The Whoopi Goldberg shot wasn't done with milk I think, or at least I read somewhere about an easier alternative...

Conrado New Member • Posts: 17
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxTfBIVr1nw&feature=player_embedded

Quite a few bottles of milk used in that video.

dad_of_four Veteran Member • Posts: 8,515
Midget?!?

UKphotographers wrote:

dad_of_four wrote:

(Or you could hire a midget - lol)

Milk in the bath is a good idea. I'm a bit unsure when it comes to putting a midget in there as well...

The midget is an obscure reference to a Rodney Dangerfield movie where he confronts his wife who wants a Divorce with photo's of her and another man

Here's you and Giorgio in the guest room. Here's you and Giorgio in the rumpus room. Ooh, this one, I can't figure out. There's you, there's Giorgio... What's with the midget over here?

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Joseph S Wisniewski Forum Pro • Posts: 34,466
Health or beauty store, or child safe paint...
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LeNormand wrote:

My friend asked me to shoot her in a milk bath.
We'll use a hotel room with a great, white bathroom.

Problem is, I don't picture myself carrying 50 boxes of milk through the hotel lobby
Is there any easier way to obtain the whitness of milk in a bathtub ?

You can obtain powdered or liquid milk bath at any decent health or beauty store.

You don't really want to use regular milk (even at 4:1 dilution) or powdered milk, because they will quickly form a line on your model (and the tub) at the water line, and every time she moves, there's the old line (been there, done that).

Try it first to make sure you like the color. Neither real milk nor a milk bath product is likely to be the slightly warm white that suggests "real, refreshing, creamy milk". When you dilute milk it goes surprisingly blue. The bigger and less specular the light source, the better.

You would not believe what I used the last time I did this. Your model won't like it as much as the beauty store milk bath product, but it will look better...

Child safe tempura paint. The same brand, "MPI" that I use for all my fluorescent body painting and about half the metallic body painting. Also the same stuff I glopped 64 ounces of black directly onto Clementine for that "oil slick" shot...

One 16 ounce bottle of white will turn water more opaque than actual milk.

Important: your model must stay in the tub until it is drained and she is thoroughly rinsed off. You don't want to splash paint on the hotel's carpeting.

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I' volunteer to thuroughly wash the model off!

we dont want to stain that carpet!

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OP LeNormand Forum Member • Posts: 67
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Thanks Joseph, you have a lot of experience on this field.

Now I have to convince the model to enter a bathtube filled with white paint Wish me luck !

Peter Berressem Forum Pro • Posts: 10,647
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I'd prefer Gouache as it's water-soluble even after drying..
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UKphotographers Veteran Member • Posts: 4,337
Re: Health or beauty store, or child safe paint...

Stephen Christie wrote:

I' volunteer to thuroughly wash the model off!

Don't forget the midget... then again, maybe he'd like that job!

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Joseph S Wisniewski Forum Pro • Posts: 34,466
Cleanup can be, well, interesting...

Stephen Christie wrote:

I' volunteer to thuroughly wash the model off!

I'm always surprised how many offers of assistance I get for that kind of work, especially body painting.

Surprisingly, after the first 50 or so, that close working with a model's body starts to get a bit "clinical".

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Good artists paints are highly toxic...

Peter Berressem wrote:

I'd prefer Gouache as it's water-soluble even after drying..

I prefer to avoid such, for two reasons:

  • You would be surprised how many watercolors or gouaches that can easily wash off paper (cellulose or lignen) will bind and stain skin, because of the oils and the acidity. The child-safe tempera, on the other hand, is made to wash off even if dried and caked on skin, hair, and clothes (although getting it out from under fingernails usually requires judicious use of a toothbrush).

  • Good artists paints tend to be both toxic and carcinogenic. Child-cafe tempera passes tests that involve (unfortunately) body weight ingestion by lab animals. You can soak in it, you can drink down the whole bottle with no ill effects other than Velvia diarrhea.

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Paul T. Klein Contributing Member • Posts: 561
Re: Good artists paints are highly toxic...

Powdered Milk or Whole Milk - I might suggest that you donate an equivalent amount to a local food pantry.

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Lou Cohen Regular Member • Posts: 499
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Joseph S Wisniewski wrote:
with no ill effects other than Velvia diarrhea.

Joseph, how can you post that without a spitter warning?????

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John.vincent Regular Member • Posts: 127
Joseph you're a hoot. (NT)
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